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      08-07-2012, 07:06 PM   #309
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Thats cool...just that Eddie from Apex racing said that Forgestar didn't do this...how do we end up knowing the truth. Maybe its just Eddie bashing a competitor.

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Everything I've ever seen from Eddie has indicated that he's a straight shooter.

The issues I've heard with Forgestar over time was that some of their wheels were certified at a low load rating and that when they provide a custom offset by cutting the wheel mounting surface, those wheels then differ from the certified configuration and it's unknown whether the modified wheel would pass certification or not. It's been a while since I've heard these issues, and they may no longer apply (if they ever did).
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Thats cool...just that Eddie from Apex racing said that Forgestar didn't do this...how do we end up knowing the truth. Maybe its just Eddie bashing a competitor.

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He had a link where you could look up the certified wheels that showed the APEX wheels and sizes that were certified.
Besides, if you bash another sponsor here, you get the ban-stick. Ask Benvo about that.

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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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      08-08-2012, 12:14 AM   #311
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who did benvo have beef with? roman?
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      08-08-2012, 12:16 AM   #312
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He had a link where you could look up the certified wheels that showed the APEX wheels and sizes that were certified.
Besides, if you bash another sponsor here, you get the ban-stick. Ask Benvo about that.

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Some vendors are more important than other vendors on this board..this had a lot to do with it....

Forgestar isn't a vendor on here I believe. I know **********s and some of the other outlets that sell them are. I know Apex makes great wheels and have an excellent reputation as a strong track wheel.

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      08-08-2012, 12:17 AM   #313
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who did benvo have beef with? roman?
The actual reason for the ban was a side issue with Roman, lets just say it was a force multiplier..

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      08-08-2012, 12:19 AM   #314
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Everything I've ever seen from Eddie has indicated that he's a straight shooter.

The issues I've heard with Forgestar over time was that some of their wheels were certified at a low load rating and that when they provide a custom offset by cutting the wheel mounting surface, those wheels then differ from the certified configuration and it's unknown whether the modified wheel would pass certification or not. It's been a while since I've heard these issues, and they may no longer apply (if they ever did).
Im not talking any issue with Eddie...the issue I have is they say they aren't JWL, VIA or SAE certified. Yet if you go to Forgestars website they are showing all these certifications.

My other issue is how do we validate these claims?

Regarding the issue with Forgestar, they have resolved that issue.

At least once again, as I have been told...who do you believe?


Oh, and sorry for answering each post individually..I'm exhausted and didn't feel like combining them.
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      08-08-2012, 12:21 AM   #315
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The actual reason for the ban was a side issue with Roman, lets just say it was a force multiplier..

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sc tuning?
There was a Dyno thread by ECS where a dyno was taken down. I didn't read the whole thing, but it turned into two venders going at it.

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      08-08-2012, 09:27 AM   #317
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ESS? Their seemed to be something brewing between them for a while. Benvo seemed to be the more level headed. Too bad.
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      08-08-2012, 10:20 AM   #318
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I run Forgestar CF10's street and track. They're reasonably light weight and look to be very well made. I have spoken with people at Forgestar and ran other sets of their wheels on various cars on and off track. Never had an issue, and the employees I spoke with seemed quite competent. One set of F14's I ran was from the beginning of Forgestar as a company.

Can't speak for the other brands, although I'll say Apex seems to be very well-ran and I wouldn't hesitate to run them if I wanted light 18's.
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      08-08-2012, 11:05 AM   #319
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I read thru all of these post just now.

In a nut-shell.

ADV.1 caters to a certain demographic and operates a business within these means, all power to them. Not going to hate, as they are a business entity like all other business entities on this forum.

However, the choice is simple to me. 5K for a set of ADV.1 wheels or 5K for a set of BBS wheels. Youre damn right i will buy BBS over ADV.1.
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      08-09-2012, 12:27 PM   #320
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A friend of mine has a set on his M3 and they're chipping like crazy SMH. They also weigh a ton!
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      08-09-2012, 05:50 PM   #321
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I know this topic is about TUV certification and clearing up who has got what papers etc etc but I just wanted to ask, has anyone ever heard of an ADV1 wheel cracking or breaking?

Since they are put onto some seriously powerful cars it would be interesting to know how their wheels hold up in the real world compared to HRE for example.
I'm not trying to support anyone here, just curious.
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I know this topic is about TUV certification and clearing up who has got what papers etc etc but I just wanted to ask, has anyone ever heard of an ADV1 wheel cracking or breaking?

Since they are put onto some seriously powerful cars it would be interesting to know how their wheels hold up in the real world compared to HRE for example.
I'm not trying to support anyone here, just curious.

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Seriously? This question?
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There are not many wheels that compare to HRE. They supply numerous professional racing teams around the globe!
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I didn't want to compare them wheel to wheel with HRE, it would just be interesting to find out if half of ADV1's wheels cracked when used on powerful cars or if they have about the same durability as the competition..

Is it that awkward to say "I have seen X amount of ADV wheels cracked" or "none of them have cracked"?
What's so strange about that?
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I didn't want to compare them wheel to wheel with HRE, it would just be interesting to find out if half of ADV1's wheels cracked when used on powerful cars or if they have about the same durability as the competition..

Is it that awkward to say "I have seen X amount of ADV wheels cracked" or "none of them have cracked"?
What's so strange about that?
Do a search here and you'll see why people are shocked with your question.

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I didn't want to compare them wheel to wheel with HRE, it would just be interesting to find out if half of ADV1's wheels cracked when used on powerful cars or if they have about the same durability as the competition..

Is it that awkward to say "I have seen X amount of ADV wheels cracked" or "none of them have cracked"?
What's so strange about that?

Here you go --> http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664569



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      08-10-2012, 01:30 PM   #326
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Klassen. JWL, TUV & VIA.

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Pfff right.
It says the wheels meet the standards not that they are certified.
My wang is tuv certified, but i don't have any proof for it. But you should believe it cuz i said so.
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      10-10-2012, 02:44 PM   #328
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We were TUV certified before on the M3 application so our claim was not false. The difference is now our entire facility is TUV certified so we can get any wheel approved in less than a week.
Let's see, this was posted on February 22, 2012. And today is October 10, 2012.

Interesting ...

Can we claim that someone was obviously lying? unless something new has come to light.
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There are 17 pages to read through so apologies if someone has already mentioned it.

If you look carefully the "certified" wheel on the right bounces much more than the one on the left. Ie the bed which the fake wheel sits on is more rigid whilst the one on the right is not. Therefore the load put on the fake wheel is greater. Less movement of the bed means greater forces put on the wheel itself.
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