New Xpipe CEL solution? - Page 6

Mike Benvo · 03-29-2012, 10:17 PM

I will make a full thread on readiness in the next couple days which I think will really clear up misconceptions on readiness functions.

SSRE · 03-29-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaw

Did you set the adjustable setting on the DP fix at 5 o'clock?

It was at 5, but I moved to 6 because I like to try and be a bit pre-emptive. So far its going perfectly

persian54 · 03-30-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

I will make a full thread on readiness in the next couple days which I think will really clear up misconceptions on readiness functions.

Awesome!

spoonf20c · 03-30-2012, 05:09 PM

got impatient and bought one before baggy_m could finish his testing. ordered it yesterday and got it this morning. super fast service from bms. 95 bucks its worth a shot. i will keep you guys updated on my milage and cel status as well.

SSRE · 03-30-2012, 05:21 PM

Awesome,
I apologize guys, no chance to confirm readiness, but about 275 miles and is well.

SSRE · 04-01-2012, 12:14 PM

WHOOO! 330 miles, No CEL! Best $95 I've spent so far, thanks Berger Motor Sports!

uhmenono · 04-01-2012, 02:21 PM

Just bought one as well. I'm currently running rpi gtm exhaust..
Will be doing some data logging for the o2 sensors as this could just be over priced resistors only lol

SSRE · 04-01-2012, 03:14 PM

That's funny. Product comes out 5 years after the original, at 1/4 the price, and a week later its "overpriced"...

spoonf20c · 04-02-2012, 05:29 PM

about 250 miles racked up so far and no cell yet. checked for o2 sensor readiness twice within a few start cycles apart and they were active both times.

SSRE · 04-02-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonf20c

about 250 miles racked up so far and no cell yet. checked for o2 sensor readiness twice within a few start cycles apart and they were active both times.

Awesome! Thanks
Looks like its doing the job perfectly.

Darkboyz68 · 04-03-2012, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonf20c

about 250 miles racked up so far and no cell yet. checked for o2 sensor readiness twice within a few start cycles apart and they were active both times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggy_M

WHOOO! 330 miles, No CEL! Best $95 I've spent so far, thanks Berger Motor Sports!

thats awesome!

SSRE · 04-03-2012, 08:48 AM

Spoonful20c, can you take some pics showing a ready status, in a new thread? And those of us that are using the BMS DP fix can update it with our experiences. That would help other people in following the new product as a new, cheaper alternative for those of is that just want a cat delete.

I would start it, but can't check readiness on my own.

It would be awesome for shops/vendors to package that with an exhaust setup...

SSRE · 04-08-2012, 12:02 PM

550 miles, a trip to LBI, and still all good

spoonf20c · 04-09-2012, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggy_M

Spoonful20c, can you take some pics showing a ready status, in a new thread? And those of us that are using the BMS DP fix can update it with our experiences. That would help other people in following the new product as a new, cheaper alternative for those of is that just want a cat delete.

I would start it, but can't check readiness on my own.

It would be awesome for shops/vendors to package that with an exhaust setup...

sadly I'm using one of those really cheap obd2 scan tools from auto zone where you have to scroll through each line to read codes. it would not make any sense to anyone if i posted pics since i'd have to scroll to show everything. anyway I'm right behind you at 500 miles with no cel yet.

uhmenono · 04-09-2012, 10:26 AM

here are some screen captures from Rev and Dash Command apps showing OBD readiness after installing the CEL fix from Burger.

Currently running RPi GTM exhaust with no cats, about 500miles and 2 fill ups...

Reason why I think it's tad over priced is because it's less than $2 to put together, it's just set of resistors and potentiometer

ChrisAW · 04-09-2012, 10:49 AM

beautiful!

Singletrack · 04-09-2012, 11:41 AM

Just so people know; everyone was excited about the fabspeed HFCs resolving the SES, and in almost all cases, it took 1k miles+ before the SES came on. So just an FYI before everyone goes out and buys this. 250, 500 miles doesn't mean a whole lot. Once you are into 3-5k, then I would say you know this thing is working.

Did Burger say how long they tested this?

uhmenono · 04-09-2012, 12:08 PM

What HFCs and fabspeed tried to do was to clean up the airflow to the sensor. This intercepts the O2 sensor and reduces the voltage going back to the ECU, acting like the correct sized cat is in place.
I will be putting on another 1000 miles this week and a track day this weekend, so will see...

spoonf20c · 04-09-2012, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Just so people know; everyone was excited about the fabspeed HFCs resolving the SES, and in almost all cases, it took 1k miles+ before the SES came on. So just an FYI before everyone goes out and buys this. 250, 500 miles doesn't mean a whole lot. Once you are into 3-5k, then I would say you know this thing is working.

Did Burger say how long they tested this?

yikes...lol yeah I'm still a little comprehensive with this product. fairly cheap gamble at least. was fabspeed also using this method? i totally thought they were using a mechanical o2 fouler? i too would like to know how many miles bms tested this product for.

pbonsalb · 04-09-2012, 12:23 PM

Burger is smart and capable. I ran a JB4 for a while on another one of my cars. I trust Burger to do a competent job and have ordered one of these modules.

persian54 · 04-09-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhmenono

Reason why I think it's tad over priced is because it's less than $2 to put together, it's just set of resistors and potentiometer

You're on an iPad right?
Cause I want 4G on my iPhone..lol

Everything is overpriced for our cars... Akra Delete R is $400.... an exhaust can be $500 to $12,000

A lip is $500-1000

Plenty of modules that cost $150-500 cost little to actually make.

It comes with the territory lol. I wish things were cheaper for us

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-09-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Burger is smart and capable. I ran a JB4 for a while on another one of my cars. I trust Burger to do a competent job and have ordered one of these modules.

BMS is pretty good at figuring these things out, but I'm sure if anyone has any problems with it they will keep at it with you until fully resolved. There is no reason it should work for say 200 miles and not work for 2,000 or 20,000 miles. You have the same series of tests and same signals being generated.

Mike

03-29-2012, 10:17 PM	#111
Mike Benvo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMSport M3 / 7 Series Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,206 iTrader: (6)	I will make a full thread on readiness in the next couple days which I think will really clear up misconceptions on readiness functions. __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----

03-30-2012, 05:09 PM	#114
spoonf20c let me see you become a ///Monster Drives: E92 Join Date: May 2009 Location: SloCal Posts: 314 iTrader: (12)	got impatient and bought one before baggy_m could finish his testing. ordered it yesterday and got it this morning. super fast service from bms. 95 bucks its worth a shot. i will keep you guys updated on my milage and cel status as well. __________________

04-02-2012, 05:29 PM	#119
spoonf20c let me see you become a ///Monster Drives: E92 Join Date: May 2009 Location: SloCal Posts: 314 iTrader: (12)	about 250 miles racked up so far and no cell yet. checked for o2 sensor readiness twice within a few start cycles apart and they were active both times. __________________

04-03-2012, 08:48 AM	#122
SSRE Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: North East Posts: 243 iTrader: (1)	Spoonful20c, can you take some pics showing a ready status, in a new thread? And those of us that are using the BMS DP fix can update it with our experiences. That would help other people in following the new product as a new, cheaper alternative for those of is that just want a cat delete. I would start it, but can't check readiness on my own. It would be awesome for shops/vendors to package that with an exhaust setup... __________________ In motion

04-08-2012, 12:02 PM	#123
SSRE Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: North East Posts: 243 iTrader: (1)	550 miles, a trip to LBI, and still all good __________________ In motion

03-30-2012, 05:21 PM	#115
SSRE Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: North East Posts: 243 iTrader: (1)	Awesome, I apologize guys, no chance to confirm readiness, but about 275 miles and is well.

04-01-2012, 12:14 PM	#116
SSRE Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: North East Posts: 243 iTrader: (1)	WHOOO! 330 miles, No CEL! Best $95 I've spent so far, thanks Berger Motor Sports!

04-01-2012, 02:21 PM	#117
uhmenono Enlisted Member Drives: 2009 bmw m3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	Just bought one as well. I'm currently running rpi gtm exhaust.. Will be doing some data logging for the o2 sensors as this could just be over priced resistors only lol

04-01-2012, 03:14 PM	#118
SSRE Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: North East Posts: 243 iTrader: (1)	That's funny. Product comes out 5 years after the original, at 1/4 the price, and a week later its "overpriced"...

04-09-2012, 10:26 AM	#125
uhmenono Enlisted Member Drives: 2009 bmw m3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	here are some screen captures from Rev and Dash Command apps showing OBD readiness after installing the CEL fix from Burger. Currently running RPi GTM exhaust with no cats, about 500miles and 2 fill ups... Reason why I think it's tad over priced is because it's less than $2 to put together, it's just set of resistors and potentiometer Attached Images

04-09-2012, 10:49 AM	#126
ChrisAW Rear Admiral Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 259 iTrader: (1)	beautiful! __________________ --Chris --2007 997 Turbo

04-09-2012, 11:41 AM	#127
Singletrack 4th down; 4th quarter? Renegade. Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3; 12 AW X5d Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,800 iTrader: (3)	Just so people know; everyone was excited about the fabspeed HFCs resolving the SES, and in almost all cases, it took 1k miles+ before the SES came on. So just an FYI before everyone goes out and buys this. 250, 500 miles doesn't mean a whole lot. Once you are into 3-5k, then I would say you know this thing is working. Did Burger say how long they tested this? __________________ Singletrack's M3 iND/Singletrack's X5d

04-09-2012, 12:08 PM	#128
uhmenono Enlisted Member Drives: 2009 bmw m3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	What HFCs and fabspeed tried to do was to clean up the airflow to the sensor. This intercepts the O2 sensor and reduces the voltage going back to the ECU, acting like the correct sized cat is in place. I will be putting on another 1000 miles this week and a track day this weekend, so will see...

04-09-2012, 12:23 PM	#130
pbonsalb Major Drives: 08 E90 M3, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 1,171 iTrader: (3)	Burger is smart and capable. I ran a JB4 for a while on another one of my cars. I trust Burger to do a competent job and have ordered one of these modules.

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