Anyone bevel edges of their pads?

paradocs98 · 04-05-2012, 09:50 PM

I was just reading through some of Pagid's material online and saw that they recommend filing or beveling the leading edge of new pads at a 45° angle prior to installation for better contact/mating between pad and rotor. Does anyone do this? Easy to do? Any tips? Thanks!

1MOREMOD · 04-05-2012, 10:19 PM

Should be a fairly easy procedure. I didn't do it but I can see how it would make sense. Big file and a vise should do it.

LiM3y · 04-05-2012, 11:01 PM

It is worth it for the weight reduction alone!

paradocs98 · 04-05-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LiM3y

It is worth it for the weight reduction alone!

Or I could just eat a couple less Oreos...

1MOREMOD · 04-05-2012, 11:58 PM

dont do that. i love the new peanut butter ones.

tibra1 · 04-06-2012, 12:14 AM

The bevels are there for preventing noise, chatter, and binding

LiM3y · 04-06-2012, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by paradocs98

Or I could just eat a couple less Oreos...

You have to dig deep, brother... If you read Ross Bentley's "Speed Secrets 43: Taking it from the Buffet to the Brakes", it mentions that Rahal only ate the filling, whereas Andretti didn't eat Oreos at all during the Indy season.

dawgdog · 04-06-2012, 07:25 AM

I did it but with sandpaper. I had horrible binding issues with my Mintex F3Rs so was forced into it with those pads.

chili cheese · 04-06-2012, 01:44 PM

I have the Pagid RS19s and I noticed that they weren't beveled, but the OEM pads are. I didn't think to try to modify the Pagids and haven't had any issues yet.

arter · 04-06-2012, 05:23 PM

Also have the Pagid RS-19's. Good as they are out of the box ( plus bedding in).

Slapshot9 · 04-06-2012, 08:35 PM

?? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Pagid can't sell a product that's ready to be installed? Binding?? Time to buy another brand of pad. My Hawks are not beveled, I throw them on and good to go. No issues.

1MOREMOD · 04-06-2012, 08:38 PM

slow your roll. he asked if it was needed not said it was? the post before yours states they are fine without. as are most except apparently mintex.

tibra1 · 04-06-2012, 11:04 PM

paradocs98 · 04-07-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by arter

Also have the Pagid RS-19's. Good as they are out of the box ( plus bedding in).

You definitely need them now that you have that little secret under the hood...

paradocs98 · 04-07-2012, 11:17 AM

Thanks for the replies, everyone. I ended up checking with my local speed shop as well--they said filing/beveling isn't absolutely necessary, but it sometimes helps to achieve better pad-to-rotor contact sooner.

JAJ · 04-07-2012, 09:56 PM

Real men use square pads.

arter · 04-08-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paradocs98

You definitely need them now that you have that little secret under the hood...

Was hitting 155 at the end of the back straight at Mid Ohio (BMW CCA) last weekend and the Pagids were working great.

Didn't do that all weekend though as I was on street tires, it was 38F and I didn't want to know why the sand trap at the end of the straight was named China Beach

paradocs98 · 04-08-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arter

Was hitting 155 at the end of the back straight at Mid Ohio (BMW CCA) last weekend and the Pagids were working great.

Didn't do that all weekend though as I was on street tires, it was 38F and I didn't want to know why the sand trap at the end of the straight was named China Beach

155--That's nuts! I found the following description of Mid-Ohio at http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/OH/MidOhio.html. Note the description of typical speed on the straight by this Divisional Champion:

Hot Lap courtesy of Chris W. Ingle, 2003 Southeast Division T1 National Champion, #7 T1 Corvette Z06:
Overall, Mid Ohio is a very technical track and quite frankly, dangerous road course near Mansfield, Ohio. It is a handling track more so than just horsepower and has just about everything a great road course should have -- elevation changes, high speed straights (near 140 mph), fast 'pucker-factor' corners, and a few tight corners thrown in just for good measure. Extremely challenging, it takes lots and lots of seat time here to be fast. Do not expect to make drastic lap time improvements from visit to visit -- it comes in tenths of a second and sometimes hundredths. The bad part about this track though is that there is little room for error. A large part of the course is bordered by concrete walls and in some places is very close to the racing surface. You really have to pick your spots to push the limits here because the consequences are painful and expensive. Over the years, Mid Ohio has improved the safety adding more tire walls and extending the gravel traps while moving back some of the railings.

04-05-2012, 09:50 PM	#1
paradocs98 Major Drives: 2011 E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY Posts: 1,200 iTrader: (0)	Anyone bevel edges of their pads? I was just reading through some of Pagid's material online and saw that they recommend filing or beveling the leading edge of new pads at a 45° angle prior to installation for better contact/mating between pad and rotor. Does anyone do this? Easy to do? Any tips? Thanks!
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04-05-2012, 10:19 PM	#2
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,530 iTrader: (3)	Should be a fairly easy procedure. I didn't do it but I can see how it would make sense. Big file and a vise should do it. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

04-05-2012, 11:01 PM	#3
LiM3y Major Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT Posts: 1,022 iTrader: (2)	It is worth it for the weight reduction alone! __________________

04-05-2012, 11:58 PM	#5
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,530 iTrader: (3)	dont do that. i love the new peanut butter ones. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

04-06-2012, 07:25 AM	#8
dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	I did it but with sandpaper. I had horrible binding issues with my Mintex F3Rs so was forced into it with those pads. __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

04-06-2012, 12:14 AM	#6
tibra1 Banned Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,779 iTrader: (4)	The bevels are there for preventing noise, chatter, and binding

04-06-2012, 01:44 PM	#9
chili cheese Captain Drives: '11 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern CA Posts: 851 iTrader: (2)	I have the Pagid RS19s and I noticed that they weren't beveled, but the OEM pads are. I didn't think to try to modify the Pagids and haven't had any issues yet.

04-06-2012, 05:23 PM	#10
arter collecting toys Drives: M3 MCB Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester, ny Posts: 564 iTrader: (0)	Also have the Pagid RS-19's. Good as they are out of the box ( plus bedding in). __________________ 2011 e92 M3 Monte Carlo Blue ESS 535 2010 Honda FIT 2006 SLK 55 AMG

04-06-2012, 08:35 PM	#11
Slapshot9 Second Lieutenant Drives: '08 E90 M3 JB 6MT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoFla Posts: 274 iTrader: (0)	?? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Pagid can't sell a product that's ready to be installed? Binding?? Time to buy another brand of pad. My Hawks are not beveled, I throw them on and good to go. No issues.

04-06-2012, 08:38 PM	#12
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,530 iTrader: (3)	slow your roll. he asked if it was needed not said it was? the post before yours states they are fine without. as are most except apparently mintex. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

04-06-2012, 11:04 PM	#13
tibra1 Banned Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,779 iTrader: (4)

04-07-2012, 11:17 AM	#15
paradocs98 Major Drives: 2011 E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY Posts: 1,200 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies, everyone. I ended up checking with my local speed shop as well--they said filing/beveling isn't absolutely necessary, but it sometimes helps to achieve better pad-to-rotor contact sooner.

04-07-2012, 09:56 PM	#16
JAJ Captain Drives: 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 896 iTrader: (4)	Real men use square pads.

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