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      04-16-2012, 07:18 PM   #463
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If anybody buys 22' inch rims for the track (no matter what they are called... track spec, fast-as-the-f@cking-wind, etc...) is an idiot. Anyone buying 22' rims and complaining about the weight is an idiot as well.

Are people taking Escalades to the track these days?

Some folks had some valid complaints regarding ADV.1, but *this* isn't a valid one by a long shot.

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P.S. Also, WTF?!
Guess I can cross your name off my new 24" nurburgring specials?
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      04-16-2012, 07:48 PM   #464
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The post that wouldn't die...

can we put this thing to bed already...
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      04-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #465
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So what is this so-called Track Spec really suppose to mean then?
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      04-16-2012, 08:14 PM   #466
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So what is this so-called Track Spec really suppose to mean then?
Track spec = $$$$$
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      04-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #467
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If anybody buys 22' inch rims for the track (no matter what they are called... track spec, fast-as-the-f@cking-wind, etc...) is an idiot. Anyone buying 22' rims and complaining about the weight is an idiot as well.

Are people taking Escalades to the track these days?

Some folks had some valid complaints regarding ADV.1, but *this* isn't a valid one by a long shot.

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P.S. Also, WTF?!
These are 20x9 32lbs and 20x11 34lbs not 22.
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      04-16-2012, 08:25 PM   #468
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These are 20x9 32lbs and 20x11 34lbs not 22.
- WTF?!?! 32 lbs for a 20x9
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      04-16-2012, 08:59 PM   #469
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As was stated not that it has anything to do with this thread but here is the link to the mb world post.

http://mbworld.org/forums/cls55-amg-...-12-cls63.html
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      04-16-2012, 09:29 PM   #470
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On the picture posted we have no idea what size the wheel is and it has a step lip and flat forging which should make it lighter than 26lbs if it is a 20 if its a 19 then its heavy. AND the only picture you could find was in someones kitchen I like the wolf range I am putting one in my house but really.
The picture I posted is a 20x11" wheel. It has a pretty thick back pad. That is the true weight. I'm not unhappy with the weight as they are lighter than 20x10 BBS LM's. The fasteners are stainless steel as well instead of titanium (if they were titanium, which is an option, the wheels would be over a pound lighter each - so flirting in the high 24lb range - titanium is what's used for the more expensive 3pc wheels these days)
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The picture I posted is a 20x11" wheel. It has a pretty thick back pad. That is the true weight. I'm not unhappy with the weight as they are lighter than 20x10 BBS LM's. The fasteners are stainless steel as well instead of titanium (if they were titanium, which is an option, the wheels would be over a pound lighter each - so flirting in the high 24lb range - titanium is what's used for the more expensive 3pc wheels these days)
Sorry the picture posted by adv1
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These are 20x9 32lbs and 20x11 34lbs not 22.
That profile lends to a much heavier wheel off the bat. Also, the concave profile makes them heavier too. I'm not making excuses for how heavy they are, but it does make sense if mine are 26lbs, non-concave and a much lighter spoke layout.

either way the guy is an idiot for ordering ADV8's with concave face in 20's if he wanted lightweight wheels.
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Sorry the picture posted by adv1
That picture is the picture of my wheel. I posted that same picture a couple pages back.
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Wow just read every post and it seems like the norm from some small wheel companies dating back to 1990. Seen it happen. Although NO set of wheels is worth over $10,000 they should not be having these issues so soon in the wheels lifetime. The price is stupid ridiculous, regardless of what the vendor thinks. If customers keep paying stupid prices then they are going to sell them for that. Thats for another post though.

I made a huge stink when Volk TE37s in 19 inch went from $599 a wheel to close to $1000. Thats stupid and what do we Americans do? Pay the prices. There are ways around Mackin if you live in Hawaii. I remember buying used Volks for $1100 a set and a new set for about $2000 back in 2004-5.

Anyway point is the vendor was at fault here and we all know it. Stand by and own your product. Chalk it up as lesson learned and move on. I did that with AME, SSR, and Work. Again thats going through 50-70 sets of wheels since 1990 for all my cars.

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      04-16-2012, 10:19 PM   #475
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can we put this thing to bed already...

it's not about putting this to bed. it''s about letting the consumer know what there getting, not what's advertised " for marketing ".
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      04-16-2012, 11:11 PM   #476
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ADV1 = Bunch of guidos from Miami selling wheels out of their garage. What did you expect?
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ADV1 = Bunch of guidos from Miami selling wheels out of their garage. What did you expect?


thats how they do it on the east coast.
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      04-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #478
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I didn't read the whole thread and I have absolutely no knowledge what-so-ever regarding wheels so, I felt compelled to post my opinion.

I believe the wheels failure was due to the roundness of the wheel in relation to the composition and flatness of the street. If the street was not flat, or the wheel was square, then the ride quality would have been affected by the air density found at the lower altitudes.

ADV1, do you care to comment?
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I didn't read the whole thread and I have absolutely no knowledge what-so-ever regarding wheels so, I felt compelled to post my opinion.

I believe the wheels failure was due to the roundness of the wheel in relation to the composition and flatness of the street. If the street was not flat, or the wheel was square, then the ride quality would have been affected by the air density found at the lower altitudes.

ADV1, do you care to comment?
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I'm the poster from MBworld who was quoted earlier in the thread with the concave ADV08s that came in 25% above the estimated weight. Just wanted to post a nice update of how customer service should be handled, and ADV did it right.

Had a nice chat with Jordan, the president of ADV, yesterday. I have to say, after the initial poor response from their customer service, they have stepped up in a major way, and have gone beyond what I even expected. Below is part of the email Jordan sent me after our chat:

"Great speaking to you earlier, thank you for taking the time to speak with me. As discussed I appreciate your business very much and we apologize for the issue, regardless of the cause we're always more than happy to do whatever is necessary to satisfy you as our customer. To reiterate on the resolution that you and I discussed we are going to be making you a new set of wheels, same sizes, finish, style, offsets however engineered this time around with the intent to meet or exceed your expectations in terms of weight.

You were quoted an estimated weight of 24 –26 lbs from what I understand and we'll engineer them with this intent, should we not be able to meet this weight we will discuss alternatives that may be better for you if needed. This is something we do every day so it's really not an issue, and would not have been had they originally been ordered this way. No problem though, I appreciate the opportunity to make it right for you and I'll do exactly that.

As agreed, you can continue to use the existing wheels in the meantime and once the new ones are complete we'll ship them over to you with return labels included. Once you've installed the new ones, just let us know and we'll schedule the pick up for the old ones.

I'll process the new order on the next batch that I input which will likely be tomorrow and you'll receive a new invoice at $0.00 which will be order # 2692W (warranty). Once it's in the system it will go through production as all of our orders do and you and I will personally handle the order and keep you updated as we go as well as on the weight analysis and 2d / 3d drafts for your review. "

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That's very nice of them to handle your situation like that.

Question, why wasn't the wheels made that way to begin with? What testing would they do on the original set vs the new set? Seems like anyone can simply make a lighter wheel, but still confuses me how they validate or test/engineer the wheels properly. Will you end up with a light wheel that is improper for the vehicle? Maybe a crack wheel issue?
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      04-20-2012, 11:04 AM   #483
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Nice to hear they resolved the issues and went above and beyond. The iussue with the OP and the issue with the weight on ajag's wheels. There 2 for 2. Now you guys are back on the engineering thing.
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