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[ADV.1 Matt]

Originally Posted by db71

I would also like to know this.

I do not feel you have to be a degreed engineer to design and make wheels but do not call the person engineer if they do not have the degree to back it up.

If there was not a machining issue on these wheels was there perhaps on another set?

Our engineer used to engineer for MHT for years and we just hired him on full time to do our wheels as our volume increased. And yes, he has an engineering degree.

[ADV.1 Matt]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Lots of reading here. 2 things that I notice still have not been answered, and now I'm a bit curious myself:

1) Is Tom, the "head engineer" mentioned on Adv's site http://www.adv1wheels.com/adv1wheels/dem/engineer.php, degreed? If so, what type(s) of degree(s) does he hold?
2) Is it true that there was an issue in the machining such that the holes did not line up and bolts had be threaded in @ an angle? If so, is it true that ADV knew about this at the time of assembly and sold them to customers with this knowledge?

And I read Jordan's response. I'd just like a direct, simple answer to these 2 questions. Not hating, just curious. Thanks.

Pertaining to the incorrect machining (and I think J's response directly responded to this) but in case it didn't fully explain - that was a potential cause that was suggested when the first case popped up 14 months ago as we couldn't think of any other reason for the crack to occur.

At the time the cause was suggested other failures hadn't yet occurred. But after physically checking the wheels with the issue it was not the case. Only after the second failure did we start looking for links between the various orders and started being able to track down similar production times and the same innner barrel being used.

Hope that clears it up.

[db71]

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

Our engineer used to engineer for MHT for years and we just hired him on full time to do our wheels as our volume increased. And yes, he has an engineering degree.

Sounds good Matt it doesn't matter to me either way but with the way other companies have discussed engineering I thought it should be answered.

[ADV.1 Matt]

No problem at all. Happy to clear it up.

[whats77inaname]

Very good. Thank you for your responses.

[the infamous...]

Originally Posted by db71

Nobody's whole wheel line is tested. I will guarantee it.

And just because your management system is certified that does not guarantee your wheels will not have supplier related issues. If that was the case here.

uhh no offense, i wasn't talkin 2 u. nor am i disregardin wut u're sayin...
i'm jus lettin MR///M3 kno wut logic is behind my dislike of adv fyi.

since u brought up that "nobody's whole wheel line is tested", check this:


doesn't "100 applications" mean more than 1 line of wheel? n hav u even read this thread? http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596608
adv says they've registered w/ tuv n they're currently waitin 4 the paperwork 2 be finalized/processed.
i aint sayin it's not tru bc i hope they get tuv approval, i really do.
i jus don't like how they basically said "our wheels r certified by tuv" then all of the sudden "we jus registered w/ tuv".


look, all i care 4 a wheel 2 hav is sae, all other certs (jwl, via, tuv) r a plus imo.
i've already asked ADV.1 Matt n it seems like all he cares bout right now is 2 make op happy, which's great!
but i jus wanna kno if their wheels r sae-j2530. if so, do they hav proof? i kno 4 a fact they're not jwl or via.

[db71]

Originally Posted by the infamous...

uhh no offense, i wasn't talkin 2 u. nor am i disregardin wut u're sayin...
i'm jus lettin MR///M3 kno wut logic is behind my dislike of adv fyi.

since u brought up that "nobody's whole wheel line is tested", check this:


doesn't "100 applications" mean more than 1 line of wheel? n hav u even read this thread? http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596608
adv says they've registered w/ tuv n they're currently waitin 4 the paperwork 2 be finalized/processed.
i aint sayin it's not tru bc i hope they get tuv approval, i really do.
i jus don't like how they basically said "our wheels r certified by tuv" then all of the sudden "we jus registered w/ tuv".


look, all i care 4 a wheel 2 hav is sae, all other certs (jwl, via, tuv) r a plus imo.
i've already asked ADV.1 Matt n it seems like all he cares bout right now is 2 make op happy, which's great!
but i jus wanna kno if their wheels r sae-j2530. if so, do they hav proof? i kno 4 a fact they're not jwl or via.

Here is a thing about testing wheels to any of the standards the smallest tire you can test on a 20 is a 35 series so if you are running less the test is thrown out anyway. Because it is not recommended tire size. They also require every offset and every width to be tested. If you truly want to know facts about any testing call STL labs and ask.


About the best thing you can do is make a center test that one style in one width and if it passes do fea on the other widths and offsets.

The TUV thing is funny because TUV is like CARB and god knows nobody's ever put a non carb component on in California.

As for adv1 and the TUV bs who knows. There are certain bolt patterns and offsets that fit multiple vehicles I think that is what they mean by applications. Tested maybe 5 styles in 2 offsets and widths would give you 100 apps probably.

[nowaym3]

Originally Posted by Puya King

HRE Wheels and COR Wheels are the only real custom wheels manufacture in existence....

I think you need to subtract the Cor wheels.

[nowaym3]

Just because you have 1 style, 1 bolt pattern, 1 offset, 1 size, 1 width " TUV APPROVED " doesn't mean your whole company is APPROVED! please contact TUV and get some answer's and you will see the truth.

[aus]

As far as I know, APEX VIA certifies all their wheels.
RAC is a low volume company, but they're all certified too.

[M3_WC]

ADV is on another spamming rampage since this thread. Why so many threads created in General Automotive section?

IT IS ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[acuteperformance]

I don't understand they posted like 3-5 posts all of different cars showing work they've recently done.

If this really bothers you, try contacting the moderators on the board. You can use the contact us link at the very bottom of the thread.

Michael

Originally Posted by M3_WC

ADV is on another spamming rampage since this thread. Why so many threads created in General Automotive section?

IT IS ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the infamous...]

Originally Posted by db71

Here is a thing about testing wheels to any of the standards the smallest tire you can test on a 20 is a 35 series so if you are running less the test is thrown out anyway. Because it is not recommended tire size. They also require every offset and every width to be tested. If you truly want to know facts about any testing call STL labs and ask.


About the best thing you can do is make a center test that one style in one width and if it passes do fea on the other widths and offsets.

The TUV thing is funny because TUV is like CARB and god knows nobody's ever put a non carb component on in California.

As for adv1 and the TUV bs who knows. There are certain bolt patterns and offsets that fit multiple vehicles I think that is what they mean by applications. Tested maybe 5 styles in 2 offsets and widths would give you 100 apps probably.

i dgaf bout testin procedures or requirements. it's expected from all wheel mfgs, wheter they do or not is wut i'm tryna find out...
i'm jus a consumer tryna get ACTUAL facts n REAL paperwork that back up their claims, thas all.

n the point i was tryna make b4 is that they're not certified on "over 100 applications" like they said.
when that pic was brought up n questioned, adv posted a pic of a tuv c.of.c. sayin it was a cert.
did u read that thread btw? read it.


why do i care so much? few of my friends like their wheels n wanna kno if they're legit n worth spendin money on.

[PINHEAD]

i like how all the ppl who back ADV1 is either from Miami or have a new account. hahahhaha

[aus]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

ADV is on another spamming rampage since this thread. Why so many threads created in General Automotive section?

IT IS ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is General Automotive seen across all Bimmerpost boards?
Someone should like this thread and maybe the JWL thread to that spam.

.

[kmarei]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

i like how all the ppl who back ADV1 is either from Miami or have a new account. hahahhaha

I'm not from Miami
Unless you mean having 4800 posts i'm a newbie?
I hope you posted their response to the Asian and Korean forums.
I mean if you're objective, and you posted the initial issue, you should post their response too no?

[db71]

Originally Posted by the infamous...

i dgaf bout testin procedures or requirements. it's expected from all wheel mfgs, wheter they do or not is wut i'm tryna find out...
i'm jus a consumer tryna get ACTUAL facts n REAL paperwork that back up their claims, thas all.

n the point i was tryna make b4 is that they're not certified on "over 100 applications" like they said.
when that pic was brought up n questioned, adv posted a pic of a tuv c.of.c. sayin it was a cert.
did u read that thread btw? read it.


why do i care so much? few of my friends like their wheels n wanna kno if they're legit n worth spendin money on.

I have read the thread in the past. I personally feel they caused themselves a lot of uneaded grief by posting that. It obviously appears that it may have been a stretch.

If anyone feels I am defending adv1 I am not. But I am not gonna jump on the hater bandwagon as lots of wheel companies post bs and don't confirm or deny.

Example a wheel company says they are TUV certified that does not mean that every wheel they manufacture has been tested it means their management process is certified. Even when the company says "certain styles are tested for sale in TUV countries". People say oh every wheel they sell is TUV tested

So to answer your question no most wheels are not sae tested exactly as made the company maybe test one diameter and one width and one offset.

Now a low volume company which only makes a handful of sizes and widths and styles can do testing on all wheels economically.

Now these tests no matter what are performed with recommended tire size which the lowest sidewall is 35 series anything lower than that and you are outside of any test and "for show only"

[MR///M3]

Originally Posted by db71

Nobody's whole wheel line is tested. I will guarantee it.

And just because your management system is certified that does not guarantee your wheels will not have supplier related issues. If that was the case here.

+1

[PINHEAD]

Originally Posted by kmarei

I'm not from Miami
Unless you mean having 4800 posts i'm a newbie?
I hope you posted their response to the Asian and Korean forums.
I mean if you're objective, and you posted the initial issue, you should post their response too no?

nope. didnt. dont care. and im enjoying it.

[MR///M3]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Lots of reading here. 2 things that I notice still have not been answered, and now I'm a bit curious myself:

1) Is Tom, the "head engineer" mentioned on Adv's site http://www.adv1wheels.com/adv1wheels/dem/engineer.php, degreed? If so, what type(s) of degree(s) does he hold?
2) Is it true that there was an issue in the machining such that the holes did not line up and bolts had be threaded in @ an angle? If so, is it true that ADV knew about this at the time of assembly and sold them to customers with this knowledge?

And I read Jordan's response. I'd just like a direct, simple answer to these 2 questions. Not hating, just curious. Thanks.

what kind of question is #1?? Why in the world would they not have a degreed engineer to design their wheels? There has been ONE failure due to a supplier's part and nothing to do with the design of the wheels.


you guys are ridiculous

[ALUFELGEN]

Originally Posted by MR///M3

what kind of question is #1?? Why in the world would they not have a degreed engineer to design their wheels? There has been ONE failure due to a supplier's part and nothing to do with the design of the wheels.


you guys are ridiculous

Most wheel "engineers" are just designers/technitians who know how to use a CAD software. Very few, have an actual engineer with an engineering degree working for them full time.

OP, hope everything works out for you.

[h4nh]

I have a set of ADV10 19" Track Spec. (they're engraved track spec not 'trak spec') lol at the krab cake joke.

They're nice looking wheels and for clarifications the price ranges so not all of them are 10k. I think people assume they're 10k which is good because there wont be honda civics with the same kind of wheels.

I've seen all kinds of wheels cracked. Shit happens. Especially when you're running low profile tires and driving it everyday.

Free wheels or money back cant complain.