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      03-20-2012, 01:35 AM   #45
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Well from what I've seen from Manhart it looks like you have to use the x6m trans. But I think you still can use the paddle shifters I wonder how much of a wiring nightmare that is.
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      03-20-2012, 07:27 AM   #46
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Really?

The gtr has bad lag? The 997 turbo has bad lag? The gt2 has lag?

Come on man. Properly done turbo cars are fun to drive.
I'd have to disagree - all three of those cars have enough lag at the track that you have to drive them 100ms ahead of where they are when you're going through a corner. Takes a bit of the fun away compared to a NA car with precise throttle response. There is a good reason you don't see many (I said many, there are definitely some, especially diesels) turbos in racing, despite their better efficiency.
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      03-20-2012, 01:00 PM   #47
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I'd have to disagree - all three of those cars have enough lag at the track that you have to drive them 100ms ahead of where they are when you're going through a corner. Takes a bit of the fun away compared to a NA car with precise throttle response. There is a good reason you don't see many (I said many, there are definitely some, especially diesels) turbos in racing, despite their better efficiency.


do some history research... Porsche dominated racing w/ turbos for a verrrryyyyy long time; they used "boost control knobs" to turn the boost up and pull away and then turned it back down and kept up the pace. Look up some of the rarest/best/nicest Porsche Racers from their day.. all turbos.. Anyone who thinks diff has never owned a turbo car.

Shit my turbo car made over 400 whp and got almost 30mpg, driven daily!
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do some history research... Porsche dominated racing w/ turbos for a verrrryyyyy long time; they used "boost control knobs" to turn the boost up and pull away and then turned it back down and kept up the pace. Look up some of the rarest/best/nicest Porsche Racers from their day.. all turbos.. Anyone who thinks diff has never owned a turbo car.

Shit my turbo car made over 400 whp and got almost 30mpg, driven daily!
Exactly - history...

And I drive these cars every month on a track - so I'm talking the modern equivalents. You cannot beat a good NA car, at least I have yet to drive one, race car or not. I didn't say a turbo is not a fast car...I said that it's not as "accurate" and therefore given the same power, not as easy to drive.


As a side note, what ANNOYS the Sh1t out of me is those who want a turbo M3 because they think they can chip it for $700 to get 550hp out of it....f3ck that.
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