Very Impressed with Pagid Yellow Racing Pads

Richard@M-World · 03-21-2012, 02:17 AM

As many of you know, Pagid Yellow RS19 and RS29 racing pads are known for their ultra-low wear rates, and this is why Pagid has won some of the most prestigious endurance races in the world such as Le Mans 24, Rolex 24, ALMS Petit Le Mans... just to name a few.

Out of curiosity, I took before and after thickness measurements of the Pagid Yellow RS29 pads on my StopTech BBK. And the results are nothing short of impressive.

Usage:
2x track sessions at MSR Houston, Angleton, TX
2x track sessions at Grandsport Speedway, Hitchcock, TX
2x track sessions at Harris Hill Raceway, San Marcos, TX

Each session consists of 15-20 minutes of hot laps.

Plus 300+ miles of street and highway driving.

Pad wear:
Front axle: max 2/64" (0.8 mm) - as little as 1/64" in some areas
Rear axle: max 1/64" (0.4 mm) - pretty consistent on all pads

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Bubbles · 03-21-2012, 06:56 AM

Great wear rates!

Richard, I'm putting those RS29 I got from you to good use this weekend.

Thanks again for the easy transaction.

dawgdog · 03-21-2012, 07:12 AM

Good news. I have one event on mine and haven't checked them yet.

Gearhead999s · 03-21-2012, 07:47 AM

You have confirmed what I have found with the various Pagid compounds.I also have ST 380/355 mm setup and have found that an RS14 front RS29 rear combo works best for myself.I am very happy with this setup.

How did you mamage to keep the yellow paint on the front pads?Mine is usually gone after my ist session

The paint holds up OK on the rear pads.

STALKER · 03-21-2012, 08:01 AM

Love my RS29s with my AP kit. Great pad, easy to modulate, zero fade, and mine like others are holding up well.

The pad material on mine have turned mostly white, which I believe is normal.

HK8888 · 03-21-2012, 08:20 AM

Looking good.

GOLFFRR · 03-21-2012, 08:22 AM

Got to trust Richards reviews def someone who knows his stuff!

Richard@M-World · 03-21-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Great wear rates!

Richard, I'm putting those RS29 I got from you to good use this weekend.

Thanks again for the easy transaction.

Let us know how it goes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

You have confirmed what I have found with the various Pagid compounds.I also have ST 380/355 mm setup and have found that an RS14 front RS29 rear combo works best for myself.I am very happy with this setup.

How did you mamage to keep the yellow paint on the front pads?Mine is usually gone after my ist session

The paint holds up OK on the rear pads.

Haha maybe I am not driving hard enough

THE TECH · 03-21-2012, 12:58 PM

Any reason you would or wouldn't suggest using the RS219 for a street only application?

Richard@M-World · 03-21-2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Any reason you would or wouldn't suggest using the RS219 for a street only application?

Noise. Otherwise it would be perfect.

VictorH · 03-21-2012, 06:50 PM

They are very effective for the stock calipers too. I've used them the past two years and have been lucky enough to find minimally used pads from other former M3post members. They are quite pricey but the durability and performance is quite good. Perf Friction has a new 08 compound that they claim is very durable (their most durable pad material) but is not available for stock calipers yet.

STALKER · 03-21-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard@M-World

Noise. Otherwise it would be perfect.

I had zero noise with my RS29s. Im going to leave them in all track season I think this year.

orion565 · 03-21-2012, 07:24 PM

can't wait till those are on my car,

THE TECH · 03-21-2012, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard@M-World

Noise. Otherwise it would be perfect.

Is this noise limited to immediate use when cold or do they have to be at track temps constantly for the noise to stop?

Reason why I ask is that I already have a set (not installed yet) but if they are gonna be noisy all the time, then I want to get something else asap.

sawzall · 03-21-2012, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Is this noise limited to immediate use when cold or do they have to be at track temps constantly for the noise to stop?

Reason why I ask is that I already have a set (not installed yet) but if they are gonna be noisy all the time, then I want to get something else asap.

I ran RS19 on my OEM brakes, and absolutely loved them - absolutely no fade no matter how much braking I did. They were noisy as hell though, I actually had a dump truck driver pull up to me and tell me how noisy my brakes were. On the street, they were super noisy, and was never able to get them to quiet down. On the track, it would take a few hot laps before the squealing went down.

I'm putting RS29 on my Alcon BBK next week, and i'm hoping the noise goes down - it seems that most people with a BBK and the Pagids experience less noise.

THE TECH · 03-21-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shizzle

I ran RS19 on my OEM brakes, and absolutely loved them - absolutely no fade no matter how much braking I did. They were noisy as hell though, I actually had a dump truck driver pull up to me and tell me how noisy my brakes were. On the street, they were super noisy, and was never able to get them to quiet down. On the track, it would take a few hot laps before the squealing went down.

I'm putting RS29 on my Alcon BBK next week, and i'm hoping the noise goes down - it seems that most people with a BBK and the Pagids experience less noise.

The ones I have are the RS29, so if the RS19 are noisy, then these are sure to be noisy. Guess I need to get something else.

STALKER · 03-21-2012, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

The ones I have are the RS29, so if the RS19 are noisy, then these are sure to be noisy. Guess I need to get something else.

As I mentioned before, I had zero noise with my RS29s and my AP BBK. I was very careful to get rid of the previous pad material, then bedded them in twice.

THE TECH · 03-21-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STALKER

As I mentioned before, I had zero noise with my RS29s and my AP BBK. I was very careful to get rid of the previous pad material, then bedded them in twice.

Even with daily driving? Hard to believe that the RS19 would make a ton of noise and these not be noisier.

STALKER · 03-21-2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Even with daily driving? Hard to believe that the RS19 would make a ton of noise and these not be noisier.

Yup, even for daily driving.

THE TECH · 03-21-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STALKER

Yup, even for daily driving.

Interesting.

kitw · 03-22-2012, 12:41 AM

I've found the yellows to last FOREVER at the expense of rotor life. Watch your rotors. On a BBK, it might not matter as much, but they chewed through my stock E46 M3 rotors like no tomorrow.

Bubbles · 03-22-2012, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Is this noise limited to immediate use when cold or do they have to be at track temps constantly for the noise to stop?

Reason why I ask is that I already have a set (not installed yet) but if they are gonna be noisy all the time, then I want to get something else asap.

You get used to it. But if not tracking another pad would be a better option like Cool Carbon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitw

I've found the yellows to last FOREVER at the expense of rotor life. Watch your rotors. On a BBK, it might not matter as much, but they chewed through my stock E46 M3 rotors like no tomorrow.

Really? I've experienced the opposite result and believe pagid yellows are very easy on oem rotors. I went throthree four sets of fronts pads on the same oem rotors ~18 track days. The E92 rotors (MY'11) are bullet proof.

03-21-2012, 02:17 AM	#1
Richard@M-World BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: NASA TTA #92 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: TX/IL Posts: 617 iTrader: (0)	Very Impressed with Pagid Yellow Racing Pads As many of you know, Pagid Yellow RS19 and RS29 racing pads are known for their ultra-low wear rates, and this is why Pagid has won some of the most prestigious endurance races in the world such as Le Mans 24, Rolex 24, ALMS Petit Le Mans... just to name a few. Out of curiosity, I took before and after thickness measurements of the Pagid Yellow RS29 pads on my StopTech BBK. And the results are nothing short of impressive. Usage: 2x track sessions at MSR Houston, Angleton, TX 2x track sessions at Grandsport Speedway, Hitchcock, TX 2x track sessions at Harris Hill Raceway, San Marcos, TX Each session consists of 15-20 minutes of hot laps. Plus 300+ miles of street and highway driving. Pad wear: Front axle: max 2/64" (0.8 mm) - as little as 1/64" in some areas Rear axle: max 1/64" (0.4 mm) - pretty consistent on all pads __________________ Authorized AiM Dealer & Data Specialist - AiM Solo \| AiM Solo DL \| AiM SmartyCam HD Authorized Pagid Brake Pads Dealer - RS19 \| RS29 \| RS14 for M3/1M OEM Calipers, StopTech, AP Racing, Alcon & Brembo w: www.m-world.us e: info@m-world.us t: 832-408-1234
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03-21-2012, 06:56 AM	#2
Bubbles Green Bastard Drives: ZCP-Powered Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend Posts: 3,523 iTrader: (3)	Great wear rates! Richard, I'm putting those RS29 I got from you to good use this weekend. Thanks again for the easy transaction. __________________

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dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	Good news. I have one event on mine and haven't checked them yet. __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

03-21-2012, 07:47 AM	#4
Gearhead999s Major General Drives: E93 335is(wifes)E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,387 iTrader: (0)	You have confirmed what I have found with the various Pagid compounds.I also have ST 380/355 mm setup and have found that an RS14 front RS29 rear combo works best for myself.I am very happy with this setup. How did you mamage to keep the yellow paint on the front pads?Mine is usually gone after my ist sessionThe paint holds up OK on the rear pads.

03-21-2012, 08:01 AM	#5
STALKER Brigadier General Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,405 iTrader: (5)	Love my RS29s with my AP kit. Great pad, easy to modulate, zero fade, and mine like others are holding up well. The pad material on mine have turned mostly white, which I believe is normal. __________________ 2008 AW/FR E90 M3-SOLD 2013 991 C4S-Produced, but not delivered.

03-21-2012, 08:20 AM	#6
HK8888 Captain Drives: '08 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 886 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 M3 Coupe [5.00]	Looking good.

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THE TECH BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 11,884 iTrader: (39)	Any reason you would or wouldn't suggest using the RS219 for a street only application? __________________ Check us out on Facebook at BPMsportLabs

03-21-2012, 06:50 PM	#11
VictorH Lieutenant Drives: '09 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SC Posts: 546 iTrader: (1)	They are very effective for the stock calipers too. I've used them the past two years and have been lucky enough to find minimally used pads from other former M3post members. They are quite pricey but the durability and performance is quite good. Perf Friction has a new 08 compound that they claim is very durable (their most durable pad material) but is not available for stock calipers yet.

03-21-2012, 07:24 PM	#13
orion565 Private First Class Drives: 2011 e92 m3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Downtown Houston Posts: 194 iTrader: (2)	can't wait till those are on my car,

03-22-2012, 12:41 AM	#21
kitw Colonel Drives: 2013 AW E92 M3 ZCP M-DCT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,131 iTrader: (13)	I've found the yellows to last FOREVER at the expense of rotor life. Watch your rotors. On a BBK, it might not matter as much, but they chewed through my stock E46 M3 rotors like no tomorrow.

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