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[PINHEAD]

ADV.1 stop it with the useless excuses and comebacks you are trying to throw at us. Its damn insulting if anything to the M3 community thinking we M3 drivers are a bunch with thick wallets and no brains to know a good wheel from bad? Kindly shut the fuck up your wheel failed and you're companys claims are all over the place from 360Forge to claiming to be TUV certified more than a year ago, yet till this date still nothing, and its only for 1 wheel application. Give me a break, just fucking give the person his money back and file chapter 7 already. We are not idiots.

[1SIKM]

Originally Posted by Poppin Fresh

I think you should remove the word "track" from anything that is not properly certified for such use. I've never seen 22" wheels being used in the track before. Also, spelling it differently i.e. "trak" should not remove you from such claims if a customer decides to use it on the track and have it fail. It's like a restaurant selling "krab" cake because it uses imitation crab meat; so these are imitation "track" wheels?

08-18-2011, 10:35 PM #29
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Hard choice you got there buddy.

HRE 790R is baller status money.

ADV.1 8DC is just as boss.
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[ADV.1 Matt]

If we weren't taking responsibility we wouldn't have fixed the issue. All we're saying is for the naysayers that started spouting the usual hate of how our product is crap is that this was a small isolated incident caused by a supplier product that both us and our supplier is standing behind.

At the end of the day the facts are this.
- A set was sold.
- A set had an issue.
- Our customer service replaced the wheel (or at least ordered parts to do so) weeks ago.
- I.E. the problem was already handled and our customer was taken care of weeks before this thread ever came into being.

[inandout]

Whoa....

Originally Posted by nowaym3

we all know that every one is on the jock of adv1, maybe its time to pass the word around " other forums " that his wheels are cracking because the lack of engineering. The problem with the wheels is that the bolt circle on the center and the bolt circle on the barrels doesn't match, the bolts go in at an angle causing the in and outer sections to flex and eventually crack. Adv1 was informed by their parts manufacturer that this was a big problem and would cause BIGGER problems and decided to let it go in hopes that it was an isolated incident. Apparentley not from these pics...

Originally Posted by nowaym3

Mike, the owner of triangle Tool who makes your step lip parts made ADV1 aware of this problem, and ADV1 had to waive Triangle of Responsibility.

Originally Posted by nowaym3

Lets say that the during the T6 treatment, there was a small batch that weren't heated properly. Triangle wouldn't have sold you the batch and the parts would never have made it onto your wheels. But thats not what happened. You were FULLY aware that your centers were machined to the incorrect specs and decided to Jerry Rig the barrels to fit the centers. The fault is not on the barrels, they were properly made, the fault lies with ADV1 soley. You knew there was an issue and decided to ignore it.

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

Nowaym3 - Do you work for Triangle?

Originally Posted by nowaym3

No, but it is evident that the amount of technical specs i know about ADV1 wheels makes you uncomfortable.

[1SIKM]

I personally like the whole FUCK YOUR WHEELS.COM idea… & I don’t even own a set of ADV.1s…

Shit Talk Dictionary: Shit talking occurs when people have too much free time on there hands (see: Not Having a Life) and put down others...

[mrwheels818]

I've took a look at ADV1's wheels before and I noticed something that didn't look right to me. There register is not thick enough. When you put a 3 piece wheel together your register should be thick enough to lock your inner barrel and outer lip together. There register barely fits in the outer barrel. What this means is that all your cars weight is riding on your assembly bolts and not the center of the wheel. Two thing can happen with defect, your bolt snap or your inner and outer barrels crack around the assembly bolts. You could fix the inner barrel but more then likely it going to happen again. Its like riding on wheels without hubcentric ring, all the weight is on your lug nuts.

Instead of TRAKSPEC it should be CHECKSPEC

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[Brucewonder]

Originally Posted by MatthewDavid

[i][b]

This is a funny analogy to me. When Dell has a recall, I don't think they immediately point the finger at their supplier. It is bad business. It is unprofessional.

Most goods we buy these days have one or more suppliers not necessarily the company selling. If my DCT has mechanical issues, is BMW going to jump on the forum and blame Getrag? Probs not. And I'm not going to be calling their customer service; I'll be calling BMW's. I'll be complaining about BMW not doing enough R&D, testing, etc. It'll taint my view of BMW, who is again the ultimate assembler, seller, and owner of the product - just like you.

on point

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

A couple of things I still have to state!

- yes ADV say it has been replaced! but in a matter of failure of the wheel being SUCH a huge defect I don't think a delay can be tolerated

- warranty on wheels are important! but not cracked parts and actual pieces of the wheel flying off is NORMAL by any standards.

- again I have to State the only reason why I have put up with this is because of the good relationship and service from Pyspeed (ADV you should thank them)

- I think every on the forum has bought an aftermarket wheel in the past! please don't start by potholes, road conditions, how this wheel was being used. this is not what we want to hear.

- I personally don't know anymore who would spend over 10K on wheels would feel safe in their Ferrari, Lambo, Buagatti, especially traveling at those speeds.

again I'm a very reasonable person why ADV guys its too much this time!

personally when some like this happens I don't care if Jordan has to drive 300 miles himself to pick up the parts! it has to be done.

BTW: this news WILL hit the China BMW forums today just because I still yet haven't seen a tracking no. on the replacement parts (are you guys serious) I wonder how people in China in their highend cars would feel?! maybe the potholes in China and better or friendlier then the ones in Taiwan?

ADV: handle this NOW!

[Tony135]

Eugene, sending you a PM now.

[PINHEAD]

ive already re-posted this shit onto many Asian forums and Korean ones. ADV.1's rep is fucked and Im glad to see them burn down like 360Forge did. As if you didn't learn the 1st time around Jordan.

[kchu221]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

ive already re-posted this shit onto many Asian forums and Korean ones. ADV.1's rep is fucked and Im glad to see them burn down like 360Forge did. As if you didn't learn the 1st time around Jordan.

damn... that jordan guy mustve fucked you over before... but yea i heard about 360forge and this jordan guy being involved in some shady business... thats why i stay with JDM wheels!

[Singletrack]

Wheels fail people...all manufacturer have wheel failures. Well known companies who I personally know have had catastrophic failures on the track: SSR, HRE.

The question is why, and what corrective action will be taken by the manufacturer. People need to keep that in mind before grabbing their pitch forks.

[bigjae1976]

It's a 22" step lip...forged or not, things will happen.

With that said, forged wheels are over-hyped and over-priced. Kind of like CF.

[kmarei]

Let's assume that what adv is saying its true
How could they have better handled this?
They are replacing the part AFTER the warranty had expired
And if you don't have stock, you don't have stock
Irrespective of the urgency of the failure, you still don't have stock

Had they said the warranty is expired sorry
I would have understood this even of animosity from you guys

Shit fails
Have people stopped buying 335i after the HPFP issues?
As long as the manufacturer rectifies the issues, I'm ok with that.
If you want the ultimate safety, maybe riding on 22s isn't exactly the best option
Stick with OEM

No offense to the OP
But if I'm worried about safety, and I want the ultimate reliability?
I would not go to after market wheels
Simple as that

[acuteperformance]

Well said and might be the most level headed response so far.

Michael

Originally Posted by kmarei

Let's assume that what adv is saying its true
How could they have better handled this?
They are replacing the part AFTER the warranty had expired
And if you don't have stock, you don't have stock
Irrespective of the urgency of the failure, you still don't have stock

Had they said the warranty is expired sorry
I would have understood this even of animosity from you guys

Shit fails
Have people stopped buying 335i after the HPFP issues?
As long as the manufacturer rectifies the issues, I'm ok with that.
If you want the ultimate safety, maybe riding on 22s isn't exactly the best option
Stick with OEM

No offense to the OP
But if I'm worried about safety, and I want the ultimate reliability?
I would not go to after market wheels
Simple as that

[saeedg48]

this is why i'll never do aftermarket wheels.. what's the point?!

[acuteperformance]

because they look good?

Originally Posted by saeedg48

this is why i'll never do aftermarket wheels.. what's the point?!

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Wheels fail people...all manufacturer have wheel failures. Well known companies who I personally know have had catastrophic failures on the track: SSR, HRE.

The question is why, and what corrective action will be taken by the manufacturer. People need to keep that in mind before grabbing their pitch forks.

I agree with that, but the fist thing ADV.1 did was to blame it on possible potholes and abusive driving. After some back and forth we finally found out there was a problem with manufacturing...

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by kmarei

Let's assume that what adv is saying its true
How could they have better handled this?
They are replacing the part AFTER the warranty had expired
And if you don't have stock, you don't have stock
Irrespective of the urgency of the failure, you still don't have stock

Had they said the warranty is expired sorry
I would have understood this even of animosity from you guys

Shit fails
Have people stopped buying 335i after the HPFP issues?
As long as the manufacturer rectifies the issues, I'm ok with that.
If you want the ultimate safety, maybe riding on 22s isn't exactly the best option
Stick with OEM

No offense to the OP
But if I'm worried about safety, and I want the ultimate reliability?
I would not go to after market wheels
Simple as that

things fail! agreed! what is a wheel warranty? this was on the car for less then 1 year! I think BMW or 335i has a warranty longer then 1 year?

replacement parts not in stock! Granted and agreed but I wasn't the one who said 3 weeks for replacement parts

ADV said NOT me! and now its been 5 weeks. So whats up?

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by acuteperformance

Well said and might be the most level headed response so far.

Michael

wow unbelievable response

[Singletrack]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I agree with that, but the fist thing ADV.1 did was to blame it on possible potholes and abusive driving. After some back and forth we finally found out there was a problem with manufacturing...

I agree. Having worked in customer service, and as a result public relations, my entire career I can confidently say that there are some valuable lessons to be learned here.