22'' ADV10TS wheels cracked from the inside out! - Page 2

Singletrack · 03-19-2012, 10:55 PM

What was their explanation of the failure? I mean, they didn't just say "we'll replace them" right? Surely the owner wants to know what the cause of this failure was, and why he won't experience them on the next set...

nowaym3 · 03-19-2012, 11:00 PM

NO WAY!!!!!! I REALLY HOPE THEY DO SOMETHING FOR YOU E!!!! let's see this outcome!!!!
YOU SHOULD GET A FULLLLLL REFUND.

Brucewonder · 03-19-2012, 11:19 PM

really glad your friend is OK, I never gave into the hype about these new companies popping out of no where. I would demand a refund vs a replacement.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 03-20-2012, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

What was their explanation of the failure? I mean, they didn't just say "we'll replace them" right? Surely the owner wants to know what the cause of this failure was, and why he won't experience them on the next set...

no promise it won't happen again from ADV. but they say it was a raw material failure

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowaym3

NO WAY!!!!!! I REALLY HOPE THEY DO SOMETHING FOR YOU E!!!! let's see this outcome!!!!
YOU SHOULD GET A FULLLLLL REFUND.

We will see!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucewonder

really glad your friend is OK, I never gave into the hype about these new companies popping out of no where. I would demand a refund vs a replacement.

thanks I do feel for my buddy as well

creaminz · 03-20-2012, 02:15 AM

Man why even bother with replacement?? Just get the refund from them if possible. That is just not safe to put on your car. And those wheels cost $10k...why?
I'd rather save couple thousand dollars and get HRE.

M3SQRD · 03-20-2012, 04:26 AM

So if it's a "raw material" failure then that brings into question the quality of the forgings they use to manufacture any of their wheels, especially if it's true they said "no promise it won't happen again"

. If the wheel is properly designed, analyzed, and manufactured from a quality forging I would not expect to see such a large "net" section and/or bearing failure of the inner barrel ring/flange.

Eugene I definitely agree with creaminz and I'd ask for a refund because, IMO, it's a huge safety issue to run these wheels on the street. Good luck in getting this matter resolved.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 03-20-2012, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaminz

Man why even bother with replacement?? Just get the refund from them if possible. That is just not safe to put on your car. And those wheels cost $10k...why?
I'd rather save couple thousand dollars and get HRE.

true!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarnes

So if it's a "raw material" failure then that brings into question the quality of the forgings they use to manufacture any of their wheels, especially if it's true they said "no promise it won't happen again"

. If the wheel is properly designed, analyzed, and manufactured from a quality forging I would not expect to see such a large "net" section and/or bearing failure of the inner barrel ring/flange.

Eugene I definitely agree with creaminz and I'd ask for a refund because, IMO, it's a huge safety issue to run these wheels on the street. Good luck in getting this matter resolved.

I'll see if Pyspeed can help out with a refund

HK8888 · 03-20-2012, 05:22 AM

Geez, be safe. God bless.

Kyoshi71 · 03-20-2012, 06:10 AM

If you're an "A" student in engineering school, you get hired at HRE.
If you're a "C-" student, you go to AVD.1

VIA/JWA FTW

M3SQRD · 03-20-2012, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

If you're an "A" student in engineering school, you get hired at HRE.
If you're a "C-" student, you go to AVD.1

VIA/JWA FTW

A "C-" would put you on their "A-team"!

Alan l. · 03-20-2012, 08:09 AM

It is true that everyone and their mother now has a wheel company. Sad fact is that most of these new companies source the same china made cores and barrels so most of them will bend and crack the same way. I've noticed how so many used wheels for sale on this forum are bent or was bent as some point. I am talking about 5-6-7K wheels here and these are cali cars. The term "forged" has been grossly misused in the wheel industry. Throw the word in their name and everyone is fine with paying 7K+ for a set of wheels thinking they are strong but to only find out they aren't forged at all or only part of it is.

Top of the line wheels back in the day use to be in the 4-5K range which was expensive. Now companies are asking 8-10K for some wheels which is ridiculous.

THE TECH · 03-20-2012, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarnes

A "C-" would put you on their "A-team"!

LOL!

the infamous... · 03-20-2012, 08:21 AM

oh boy, glad this's all that happened. i'd demand a full refund.

FUCKADVWHEELS.COM/SMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarnes

A "C-" would put you on their "A-team"!

Team Plutonium · 03-20-2012, 08:28 AM

ADV.1 = shitty wheels... nothing new. The only worse thing than those shit wheels are the douche-bags that run that shitty company.

PINHEAD · 03-20-2012, 08:30 AM

laugh out loud @ ADV.1

ottoblotto · 03-20-2012, 08:41 AM

Where are the ADV folks at?

PINHEAD · 03-20-2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoblotto

Where are the ADV folks at?

hiding. ADV.1 is the most pathetic wheel company Ive ever come across seriously. From 360Forge to this shit, the ppl there have such a thick face its unbelievable the shit they claim and their pride goes further than their scams.

I would demand a full fucking refund and then some. Especially when kids life are involved. Imagine the fucking wheel fell apart at highway speeds with his kids in the car. I'd want some mother fuckers dead if that happened. Absofuckinglutly pathetic. Re-blogging to Asian car blogs.

Team Plutonium · 03-20-2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoblotto

Where are the ADV folks at?

They are busy buying affliction t-shirts....

ottoblotto · 03-20-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

They are busy buying affliction t-shirts....

LOL! I was thinking more along the lines of changing the name of the business. I mean, remember how adamant they were in the other thread about all the testing and such...

I just think about all the folks here alone that have ADV wheels. Id probably be taking them off right about now. I think these guys are done in our community.

Singletrack · 03-20-2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

They are busy buying affliction t-shirts....

L
O
L

oh man...diet ice tea on the monitor.

ADV.1 Matt · 03-20-2012, 11:10 AM

Eugene the reason for the delay was the part was backordered from the supplier. There was nothing we could do (or any other company for that matter) to get the part any sooner. Here is the official update on your order as it's progressed:

2/8: Supplier confirmed 22x2.5 4 weeks b/o and all other parts in stock
3/15: Received (2) 22x2.5 outers from Supplier and sent outers to finish

For the normal crew stating we suck, our product isn't forged, etc... The step lip cracked, and the step lip is from the same supplier that everyone else in the industry uses. So lets stop the quality hating right there because it's not an ADV.1 specific part failure. It could've (and does) happen to every wheel company when you produce any product in volume.

Beyond that this set was originally purchased in 2010. And this is not directed at Eugene or anyone specifically and simply part of being in the wheel industry for any wheel company - we don't know what our end users do, what roads they drive on, or how careful they are. The truth is there are some awful big potholes in the world. We've had customers ruin entire sets of wheels because they got drunk and went off roading in their 7-series... we can't protect against reckless drivers, and these wheels aren't brand new - but have been used for over a year.

Regardless - we've already taken steps to replace this wheel outside of it's warranty period to stand behind the product but a backordered part is a backordered part and that was the cause for the delay in getting a new lip out to him to fix the issue.

Kyoshi71 · 03-20-2012, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

- we don't know what our end users do, what roads they drive on, or how careful they are. The truth is there are some awful big potholes in the world..

To me, a good wheel should bend (a lot) long before there is any visable material failure. These wheels suck.

03-19-2012, 10:55 PM	#23
Singletrack 4th down; 4th quarter? Renegade. Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3; 12 AW X5d Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,800 iTrader: (3)	What was their explanation of the failure? I mean, they didn't just say "we'll replace them" right? Surely the owner wants to know what the cause of this failure was, and why he won't experience them on the next set... __________________ Singletrack's M3 iND/Singletrack's X5d

03-19-2012, 11:19 PM	#25
Brucewonder Major Drives: 2011 E92 M3 yea boi Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Socal Posts: 1,467 iTrader: (4)	really glad your friend is OK, I never gave into the hype about these new companies popping out of no where. I would demand a refund vs a replacement. __________________ 2011.5 E92 ///M3 SSII/FR

03-20-2012, 02:15 AM	#27
creaminz Major General Drives: E90 LCI Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: So. Cal Posts: 6,926 iTrader: (31)	Man why even bother with replacement?? Just get the refund from them if possible. That is just not safe to put on your car. And those wheels cost $10k...why? I'd rather save couple thousand dollars and get HRE. __________________ LTBMW \| 1013MM \| HRE \| KW \| VANGUARD \| E90.1.2.M.LCI \| VISHNU \| 1013MM Photoshoot \| VRSF

03-20-2012, 06:10 AM	#31
Kyoshi71 Colonel Drives: 2010 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,543 iTrader: (0)	If you're an "A" student in engineering school, you get hired at HRE. If you're a "C-" student, you go to AVD.1 VIA/JWA FTW __________________ "But resist we much; we must; and we will much; about that be committed." ~Rev. Al Sharpton 2010 E92 M3\|Silverstone II\|M-DCT\|NCSW\|2MT\|ZCW\|ZPP\|ZTP\|302\|507\|Gas Guzzler Tax

03-20-2012, 08:09 AM	#33
Alan l. Brigadier General Drives: M-Sport 535xi Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 3,648 iTrader: (8)	It is true that everyone and their mother now has a wheel company. Sad fact is that most of these new companies source the same china made cores and barrels so most of them will bend and crack the same way. I've noticed how so many used wheels for sale on this forum are bent or was bent as some point. I am talking about 5-6-7K wheels here and these are cali cars. The term "forged" has been grossly misused in the wheel industry. Throw the word in their name and everyone is fine with paying 7K+ for a set of wheels thinking they are strong but to only find out they aren't forged at all or only part of it is. Top of the line wheels back in the day use to be in the 4-5K range which was expensive. Now companies are asking 8-10K for some wheels which is ridiculous. __________________ Current - 2013 N55 535xi Msport SAT Retired - 2009 N54 335i Msport 6MT Retired - 2000 M52TU 323i ASA Supercharged 5MT More Photos of my car here Last edited by Alan l.; 03-20-2012 at 08:16 AM.

03-19-2012, 11:00 PM	#24
nowaym3 Private First Class Drives: eeeeeeee92 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: east coast Posts: 139 iTrader: (0)	NO WAY!!!!!! I REALLY HOPE THEY DO SOMETHING FOR YOU E!!!! let's see this outcome!!!! YOU SHOULD GET A FULLLLLL REFUND.

03-20-2012, 04:26 AM	#28
M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,346 iTrader: (2)	So if it's a "raw material" failure then that brings into question the quality of the forgings they use to manufacture any of their wheels, especially if it's true they said "no promise it won't happen again" . If the wheel is properly designed, analyzed, and manufactured from a quality forging I would not expect to see such a large "net" section and/or bearing failure of the inner barrel ring/flange. Eugene I definitely agree with creaminz and I'd ask for a refund because, IMO, it's a huge safety issue to run these wheels on the street. Good luck in getting this matter resolved.

03-20-2012, 05:22 AM	#30
HK8888 Captain Drives: '08 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 886 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 M3 Coupe [5.00]	Geez, be safe. God bless.

03-20-2012, 08:28 AM	#36
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,456 iTrader: (1)	ADV.1 = shitty wheels... nothing new. The only worse thing than those shit wheels are the douche-bags that run that shitty company. __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

03-20-2012, 08:30 AM	#37
PINHEAD Motorsport Passion!!! Drives: E92M3/997.2RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 804 iTrader: (5)	laugh out loud @ ADV.1 __________________

03-20-2012, 08:41 AM	#38
ottoblotto Suddenly, Drives: A Wild M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Appears! Posts: 981 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 BMW X5 [0.00] 2011.75 BMW M3 E90 [5.00]	Where are the ADV folks at? __________________ "With great power comes great responsibility." -El-Superbeasto

03-20-2012, 11:10 AM	#43
ADV.1 Matt Lieutenant Colonel Drives: N/A Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,513 iTrader: (0)	Eugene the reason for the delay was the part was backordered from the supplier. There was nothing we could do (or any other company for that matter) to get the part any sooner. Here is the official update on your order as it's progressed: 2/8: Supplier confirmed 22x2.5 4 weeks b/o and all other parts in stock 3/15: Received (2) 22x2.5 outers from Supplier and sent outers to finish For the normal crew stating we suck, our product isn't forged, etc... The step lip cracked, and the step lip is from the same supplier that everyone else in the industry uses. So lets stop the quality hating right there because it's not an ADV.1 specific part failure. It could've (and does) happen to every wheel company when you produce any product in volume. Beyond that this set was originally purchased in 2010. And this is not directed at Eugene or anyone specifically and simply part of being in the wheel industry for any wheel company - we don't know what our end users do, what roads they drive on, or how careful they are. The truth is there are some awful big potholes in the world. We've had customers ruin entire sets of wheels because they got drunk and went off roading in their 7-series... we can't protect against reckless drivers, and these wheels aren't brand new - but have been used for over a year. Regardless - we've already taken steps to replace this wheel outside of it's warranty period to stand behind the product but a backordered part is a backordered part and that was the cause for the delay in getting a new lip out to him to fix the issue.

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