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      03-18-2012, 07:57 PM   #221
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amazing post from the guys at HRE... very informative indeed!
Thanks. All we can do is help to educate people. There's a lot of marketing hype and there's fact. It's up to you as the consumer to do your own research.
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nice job Lon
Might be heading out to Taiwan in next couple months, need to check out your M3

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Might be heading out to Taiwan in next couple months, need to check out your M3

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So where are they @? Priority mail takes five days - coming by boat?
Guys we have no control over how quickly the documents are processed at TUV. It's not exactly a small operation over there but our paperwork has been filed, we're just waiting to have it processed and sent back.
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Thanks. All we can do is help to educate people. There's a lot of marketing hype and there's fact. It's up to you as the consumer to do your own research.
Couldn't have said it better.

Sad thing is a lot of these new "wheel" companies exist only because they target the uneducated and the "baller" celebrity crowd that most don't know jack about cars besides what looks nice and what's expensive must be good mentality.

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From the last post by Morr they are not TuV certified yet.

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Correct. We are not TUV certified. We have SAE J2530 certification.

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I read that thread which is why I am asking Carlos to clarify here.

I don't want a response filled with fancy names and mumbo jumbo etc.. Seems like lots of companies come up with a name with the word "forged" in it to try to sell wheels implying they are when they really aren't. Lots of people fall for this type of advertisement but not everyone does.

1) post actual certifications for the wheels that have them

2) Are the wheels forged or cast? Should be a simple answer.

Not trying to stir the pot but I am very interested in the 20" VS8.2 for my next car and like to get all the facts before I commit spending 4k for wheels. Especially if the wheels are not forged. Living in NYC pothole capital, I need a strong wheel.

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1. Only the VS8.2 has certification. The MS8 and MS10 are tested via FEA only. The load rating on our 3PC is over 800kg per corner and they are being used on a 650kg per corner vehicle. Certifying and testing 3PC is a very complicated and prolonged process. Even if you change the profile for a less or more concave/conical/flat profile you`ll have to retest and recertify. I can attest that no one in the wheel industry will test and certify all of their fitments, profile, design combinations. It's simple impossible on a 3PC program. If you ever get the chance to compare one of our 3PC wheels next to our competitors, you`ll appreciate the quality difference.

Our FEA parameters are TUV-spec which are about 20% more abusive than SAE and are very very aggressive. We have yet to have a wheel that passed our FEA test and failed the physical testing. Why don't we have 20-30 wheel styles in 300 different configurations like other companies? Because it is very easy to loose track of quality and loose focus on engineering. When you buy our products you know it's been engineered by an actual graduated professional with a bachelors in Engineering, not a technician/designer that call himself an engineer, it has been tested, certified, track proven and best of all it has passed with flying colors the best test a wheel can go under, time. After 7 years of making forged wheels we have had ZERO catastrophic failures and only 0.6% of all wheels we have sold have experienced a bend or a crack. We are not saying our wheels are indestructible, because they could bend/crack like any other, but we make sure we do everything possible so that doesn't happen. They are very well engineered and that has been proven with time. That makes us proud.

2) Forged. The industry is changing and the market is spreading across two areas. We are introducing a flow formed product line shortly and perhaps we`ll bring the SpunForged name back.

Please find our SAE certificate below.







We are in the process of testing an E92 M3 20" application of our MS10 and MS8 3PC configuration. We`ll post the results as soon as we get them.
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Couldn't have said it better.

Sad thing is a lot of these new "wheel" companies exist only because they target the uneducated and the "baller" celebrity crowd that most don't know jack about cars besides what looks nice and what's expensive must be good mentality.

Alan
Would have to agree with your statement. There is no correlation between "expensive" and "good" in the wheel industry.
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Would have to agree with your statement. There is no correlation between "expensive" and "good" in the wheel industry.
Or anything in life for that matter! Im glad to see you guys have SAE certs seeing as how I live in the US!
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[quote=MORRWheels;11613132]Correct. We are not TUV certified. We have SAE J2530 certification.



1. Only the VS8.2 has certification. The MS8 and MS10 are tested via FEA only. The load rating on our 3PC is over 800kg per corner and they are being used on a 650kg per corner vehicle. Certifying and testing 3PC is a very complicated and prolonged process. Even if you change the profile for a less or more concave/conical/flat profile you`ll have to retest and recertify. I can attest that no one in the wheel industry will test and certify all of their fitments, profile, design combinations. It's simple impossible on a 3PC program. If you ever get the chance to compare one of our 3PC wheels next to our competitors, you`ll appreciate the quality difference.

Our FEA parameters are TUV-spec which are about 20% more abusive than SAE and are very very aggressive. We have yet to have a wheel that passed our FEA test and failed the physical testing. Why don't we have 20-30 wheel styles in 300 different configurations like other companies? Because it is very easy to loose track of quality and loose focus on engineering. When you buy our products you know it's been engineered by an actual graduated professional with a bachelors in Engineering, not a technician/designer that call himself an engineer, it has been tested, certified, track proven and best of all it has passed with flying colors the best test a wheel can go under, time. After 7 years of making forged wheels we have had ZERO catastrophic failures and only 0.6% of all wheels we have sold have experienced a bend or a crack. We are not saying our wheels are indestructible, because they could bend/crack like any other, but we make sure we do everything possible so that doesn't happen. They are very well engineered and that has been proven with time. That makes us proud.

2) Forged. The industry is changing and the market is spreading across two areas. We are introducing a flow formed product line shortly and perhaps we`ll bring the SpunForged name back.



Others should take a lesson, props MORR and keep up the awesome work.
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Now THAT'S a certificate!


also, i'm glad they're clearly sayin the wheels r forged, which's wut i've always believed them 2 be.
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I found this thread today and read it all the way through. I guess I have some lucky timing. I'm glad I chose MORR.
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Morr,

Thanks for following up. Just to clarify the 20" VS8.2 are forged just like how wheels like Volk TE37, BBS RGR, BBS FI are? The word "forged" gets thrown around loosely on this forum so I just want to be clear.

I've had two of your vendors tell me they aren't when I pm'ed about them. I just want to be clear with this because I've seen companies come out with a wheel name for example "megaforged" TM name on a cast wheel misleading buyers it's a forged wheel.

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Thanks for following up. Just to clarify the 20" VS8.2 are forged just like how wheels like Volk TE37, BBS RGR, BBS FI are? The word "forged" gets thrown around loosely on this forum so I just want to be clear.

I've had two of your vendors tell me they aren't when I pm'ed about them. I just want to be clear with this because I've seen companies come out with a wheel name for example "megaforged" TM name on a cast wheel misleading buyers it's a forged wheel.

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Good to have you on the phone Alan. Feel free to call again for anything else you need.
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Just sent you guys an email
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Received. I just happen to be browsing the boards at 2:00 AM . I`ll have your inquiry taken cared on Monday.
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Received. I just happen to be browsing the boards at 2:00 AM . I`ll have your inquiry taken cared on Monday.
Thanks mate, Im just looking around for CSL style wheel options. Take your time Cheers
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Same here and thanks for clearing things up. Looks like I will be getting me some MORR mods in the near future

Send me those pics when you have a chance.

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This has to be Andy! He always responds to my text around this time

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Send me those pics when you have a chance.

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Right there under wheel testing in the HRE statement it says not every style and fitment is tested. So all the fancy photos and big long story to find out only "some" wheels are tested.

Same bs as other some other companies a big fancy article to tell you they have a certified management process. Which doesnt have a damn thing to do with wheel testing. I could see where this is misleading if other people cannot they are blind.
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Right there under wheel testing in the HRE statement it says not every style and fitment is tested. So all the fancy photos and big long story to find out only "some" wheels are tested.

Same bs as other some other companies a big fancy article to tell you they have a certified management process. Which doesnt have a damn thing to do with wheel testing. I could see where this is misleading if other people cannot they are blind.
Why the hate - They're not claiming anything they don't have. The certs right there.
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Why the hate - They're not claiming anything they don't have. The certs right there.

Your right the certification for 6 wheels and the management process. Is right there. They sell a lot more than 6 wheels.
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