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      03-02-2012, 01:20 PM   #23
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      03-02-2012, 01:21 PM   #24
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      03-02-2012, 02:24 PM   #25
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      03-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #26
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Maybe a BBK is in order?
Ouch! In all seriousness though, unless you're driving such that your stock brakes would already have overheated, BBK's generally don't reduce stopping distance much if at all; the bottleneck on decreasing stopping distance is almost always tires. Even stock brakes can typically lock up the wheels ridiculously quickly -- think about it, if that weren't the case, then ABS wouldn't really be necessary.

Stickier tires will do more to reduce stopping distance than bigger brakes. BBKs are intended to withstand hard braking longer without fading (at which point you DO lose stopping distance), not take a car that stops in 100 ft and magically have it stop in 75 ft.

I snicker at people who pay ridiculous money to get carbon ceramics thinking it will magically make their car stop on a dime. Those people are delusional. The sole benefit of carbon ceramics is insanely high fade resistance and therefore they only make ANY difference on a track -- and even there, serious track junkies prefer steel because they don't want to pay $8K per rotor, especially considering carbon ceramic rotors can easily be ruined by a single stray piece of debris kicked up on an off-track excursion, at which point you need a new rotor.
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      03-02-2012, 03:06 PM   #27
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Damn, looks like that was rough. Good to hear that you're getting a new ride.
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So what did happen? It looks like speed may have been a factor. The car looks like it was fairly intact without any broken glass that I could see. Are the headlights actually on or is it reflection from the flash?

Glad to hear everyone was alright. Drive safe in the new one.
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      03-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #29
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Hell of an accident OP..glad your ok

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Maybe a BBK is in order?
Contrary to popular belief..BBKs do not significantly increase stopping distance..
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      03-02-2012, 03:59 PM   #30
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Ouch! In all seriousness though, unless you're driving such that your stock brakes would already have overheated, BBK's generally don't reduce stopping distance much if at all; the bottleneck on decreasing stopping distance is almost always tires. Even stock brakes can typically lock up the wheels ridiculously quickly -- think about it, if that weren't the case, then ABS wouldn't really be necessary.

Stickier tires will do more to reduce stopping distance than bigger brakes. BBKs are intended to withstand hard braking longer without fading (at which point you DO lose stopping distance), not take a car that stops in 100 ft and magically have it stop in 75 ft.

I snicker at people who pay ridiculous money to get carbon ceramics thinking it will magically make their car stop on a dime. Those people are delusional. The sole benefit of carbon ceramics is insanely high fade resistance and therefore they only make ANY difference on a track -- and even there, serious track junkies prefer steel because they don't want to pay $8K per rotor, especially considering carbon ceramic rotors can easily be ruined by a single stray piece of debris kicked up on an off-track excursion, at which point you need a new rotor.
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      03-02-2012, 04:42 PM   #31
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nope, not drunk at all actually. I was going 45mph and was even 3 car lengths behind the SUV. A bunch of cars ahead were slowing down to rubber-neck an accident on the other side of the road. There must have been a car in front of him that he didn't notice and slammed on his brakes. Then BAM. That's why you see the left side of the car is crushed a lot more cause I had a little reaction time to swerve right. Obviously too little

Upon impact, I was kinda stunned then after all the steam, plastic and other debris settled....I opened my door and walked out to look at the car. I was in complete shock at how messed up the car was. Then ran to the other car to see if the occupants of the SUV were ok. No one was injured or hurt thank God. I literally walked away with out a single scratch or bruise. Pretty amazing.

More than anything it really puts things into perspective of how much damage can occur at 45mph. Imagine this at 70mph? This is why I really do NOT condone anyone who brags about street racing or driving like a maniac on public roads. Why endanger others?
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      03-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #32
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Its why you have to leave space in front of you..drive defensively..
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      03-02-2012, 06:44 PM   #33
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That was a horrible crash. Glad you walked away.
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      03-02-2012, 09:43 PM   #35
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Ouch! In all seriousness though, unless you're driving such that your stock brakes would already have overheated, BBK's generally don't reduce stopping distance much if at all; the bottleneck on decreasing stopping distance is almost always tires. Even stock brakes can typically lock up the wheels ridiculously quickly -- think about it, if that weren't the case, then ABS wouldn't really be necessary.

Stickier tires will do more to reduce stopping distance than bigger brakes. BBKs are intended to withstand hard braking longer without fading (at which point you DO lose stopping distance), not take a car that stops in 100 ft and magically have it stop in 75 ft.

I snicker at people who pay ridiculous money to get carbon ceramics thinking it will magically make their car stop on a dime. Those people are delusional. The sole benefit of carbon ceramics is insanely high fade resistance and therefore they only make ANY difference on a track -- and even there, serious track junkies prefer steel because they don't want to pay $8K per rotor, especially considering carbon ceramic rotors can easily be ruined by a single stray piece of debris kicked up on an off-track excursion, at which point you need a new rotor.
I concur and was actually being facetious earlier. That being said a good pair tires with an nice contact patch can reduce braking lengths dramatically. If tires reduce your braking by 6ft which doesn't sound like much but it could be the difference between making contact and no contact at all with the object in front of you.
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Its why you have to leave space in front of you..drive defensively..
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3 car lengths is not enough at 45mph. 2-3 seconds is a good rule of thumb.
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Damnnnnnn that's a serious wreck Glad to hear that you are ok congratts on the new car, nice choice
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WOW! That looks like a scary wreck! Glad you're ok, and awesome that you're getting back into another M3!
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thanks for all the advice and well wishes forum!!!! :-) I am very, very excited that i shall be driving my new B-on-B DCT baby by mid next week. Once I get all the mods installed I will be taking some photos of it when i take my trip up the CALI coast ......I'm bringing my tripod and all. Hehe. Between San Louis Obispo and San Fransisco...it should be an awesome photo shoot for sure Can't wait!!!!!
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Thank God you are safe while the car has been totally damaged.
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