E9x M3 LAP TIMES (Road Course)

[wwjd15]

Track/Course: AAA Speedway (Fontana)
Best Lap Time: 1:49.422
Brakes: AP BBK
Tires (Size & Model): Nitto Nt01 275/35/18 & 275/40/18
Suspension: Moton CS
Other Mods: front lip, gt wing, catback

[Sleeper519]

^^ That's a great picture.

[dapopa9]

wwjd15 - Who took that photo? Was that the Cali Photography guy? I don't remember seeing any shots from that angle on the track.

[LiM3y]

Originally Posted by dapopa9

wwjd15 - Who took that photo? Was that the Cali Photography guy? I don't remember seeing any shots from that angle on the track.

That's because nobody is usually taking that line!

[paradocs98]

wwjd--fantastic photo! All you need now is sponsorship decals on that bad boy.

[kaiv]

Where are all the SoCal track guys' times?? I only see Ricky posting

Here are mine:

E90 M3 6MT
Track/Course: Buttonwillow 13CW
Best Lap Time: 2:05
Brake Pads: 100% stock brakes
Tires (Size & Model): 265/285 R-S3
Suspension: KW V3 / GC plates
Other Mods: none

E90 M3 6MT
Track/Course: Auto Club Speedway Roval
Best Lap Time: 1:59
Brake Pads: 100% stock brakes
Tires (Size & Model): 265/285 R-S3
Suspension: KW V3 / GC plates
Other Mods: none

[wwjd15]

Originally Posted by Sleeper519

^^ That's a great picture.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by dapopa9

wwjd15 - Who took that photo? Was that the Cali Photography guy? I don't remember seeing any shots from that angle on the track.

Yes, it's from Cali Photography. That's the apex at turn 1.

Originally Posted by LiM3y

That's because nobody is usually taking that line!

Originally Posted by paradocs98

wwjd--fantastic photo! All you need now is sponsorship decals on that bad boy.

Haha~~ waiting for someone sponsors me a SC kit

Originally Posted by kaiv

Where are all the SoCal track guys' times?? I only see Ricky posting

Hmm, I just notice that.

[kaiv]

Originally Posted by wwjd15

Hmm, I just notice that.

Maybe you are scaring them away with your ridiculously fast times

[thorny]

E92 M3 DCT
Track/Course: Buttonwillow 13CW
Best Lap Time: 2:08.10
Brake Pads: Stoptech Performance, stock brakes
Tires (Size&Model): ZCP wheels w/ Stock ContiSportContact 3, 245/265
Suspension: Stock
Other Mods: Recaro Pole Position seat (driver)

[armyav8tor]

Track/Course: VIR Full
Best Lap Time: 2:15
Brake Pads: Performance Friction front BBK / Stock rear
Tires (Size & Model): 19" ZCP Style 359/ Continental ContiSportContact 5P, 255F/285R
Suspension: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs w/ e36 M3 bumpstops
Other Mods: AA Green Filter, AA Pulley, Akrapovic Evolution

[xchosun1x]

My latest times. wish I at the track w guys this weekend!!!

Track/Course: Buttonwillow CW13
Best Lap Time: 2:00.901
Brakes: brembo BBK
Tires (Size & Model): hankook rs3
Suspension: KW v3
Other Mods: front lip, gt wing, catback

Track/Course: Willowspring WSIR (Big Willow, new pavement)
Best Lap Time: 1:32.905
Brakes: brembo BBK
Tires (Size & Model): hankook rs3
Suspension: KW v3
Other Mods: front lip, gt wing, catback

Track/Course: Streets of Willow CW
Best Lap Time: 1:27.385
Brakes: brembo BBK
Tires (Size & Model): Advan AD08
Suspension: KW v3
Other Mods: front lip, gt wing, catback

[wwjd15]

^^ james, you need to br back to track


Track/Course: Buttonwillow 13CW
Best Lap Time:1:58.514
Brakes: AP BBK
Tires (Size & Model): AD08 275/30/19 and 275/35/19
Suspension: Moton CS
Other Mods: front lip, gt wing, catback

[johnboy]

'11 E90 M3 DCT
Track/Course: VIR full course
Best Lap Time: 2:16.39
Brake Pads: PFC06
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 square NT01
Suspension: Stock
Other Mods: Stock

[atruelunatic]

'11 e92 M3 6MT
Track/Course: Buttonwillow 13CW
Best Lap Time: 2:12.50
Brake Pads: Stock
Tires: Stock
Suspension: Stock
Other Mods: Akrapovic Evolution, ESS Tune, K&N drop in air filter
Additional notes: 2nd time at a track.

[yyoo]

2011 E90 M3 DCT, 3975 pounds with driver and a quarter tank of gas
Track/Course: Laguna Seca
Best Lap Time: 1:45.86
Brakes: Brembos with Endless ME20s in front, stock with Stoptech Street Performance pads in back
Tires (Size & Model): Hankook RS3 275/35/18 all around
Suspension: Stock except camber plates
Other Mods: None

[yyoo]

Originally Posted by mastek

Yes - the driver is a BIG part of a lap time - hence the Randy Pobst 1:42 in a "bone stock" car (im glad u believe everything you read in a "Car&Driver/MotorTrend" magazine) cough pads cough tires

Not to resurrect a dead horse, but...

Here's the video of Randy Pobst's 1:42.96 lap:



Sounds like crappy street tires to me. Brakes? Who knows? But he didn't seem to be be doing a lot of braking.

I did a 1:45.86 in a very heavy (3975 pounds w/driver) e90 M3 on stock suspension and street tires (albeit good ones - RS3s) at Laguna on Monday on a pretty sloppy lap. So I can definitely believe someone like Pobst could pull a 1:42.96 with a bone stock E92 M3 (probably 200+ pounds lighter than my car).

[mastek]

Originally Posted by yyoo

Not to resurrect a dead horse, but...

Here's the video of Randy Pobst's 1:42.96 lap:



Sounds like crappy street tires to me. Brakes? Who knows? But he didn't seem to be be doing a lot of braking.

I did a 1:45.86 in a very heavy (3975 pounds w/driver) e90 M3 on stock suspension and street tires (albeit good ones - RS3s) at Laguna on Monday on a pretty sloppy lap. So I can definitely believe someone like Pobst could pull a 1:42.96 with a bone stock E92 M3 (probably 200+ pounds lighter than my car).

Nice find -- that was definitely a warm up lap, a hot lap and a cool down lap ... about the right amount for stock brakes not to fail. I'm sure they upgraded the fluid and pads.
He's got wicked follow thru 9 = pro driver balls
That's fast -- I did not have the same luck in my e90m3 at 3700 lbs with fuel and driver, AP BBK with mild race pads... I boiled the fluid = Motul 600. It was a bad day for me at 1:48
My biggest issue that day was handling/weight transition (corkscrew and 9) .. lost all the time there.

[414bhp]

Originally Posted by mastek

Nice find -- that was definitely a warm up lap, a hot lap and a cool down lap ... about the right amount for stock brakes not to fail. I'm sure they upgraded the fluid and pads.
He's got wicked follow thru 9 = pro driver balls
That's fast -- I did not have the same luck in my e90m3 at 3700 lbs with fuel and driver, AP BBK with mild race pads... I boiled the fluid = Motul 600. It was a bad day for me at 1:48
My biggest issue that day was handling/weight transition (corkscrew and 9) .. lost all the time there.

I am inclined to believe that MotorTrend does these Laguna Seca tests using completely stock cars, including stock tires and brakes. Why? Well, if they were upgrading the brakes with track pads and fluids they would not be reporting brake fade in less than 1 lap for the 1M!

MotorTrend on the 1M: "Still, the brakes faded every time you really got on it. Especially on the track, where the stoppers felt good for less than a lap. This is surprising considering they're the same discs as on the M3, but we think we had to use them more frequently because of the car's unsorted behavior. Randy found that getting on the middle pedal in a hurry would exacerbate the 1M's constant understeering. Moreover, the brakes warped badly during our canyon run, the only car here to fail in any way."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...s_m_coupe.html

Also, I know they made a big to-do over the Corvette's factory optional race-spec tires when the Corvette was the fastest around Laguna Seca. Thus, I think they test with the tires that arrive on the car.

I am impressed though that the MotorTrend pro-driver sets his lap times with minimal seat time (maybe 30 minutes/10 laps?) in cars he has never driven before. In my personal car -- a 2006 Evo IX MR with just DTC60 pads and stock diameter R-S3 tires -- it took me six HPDE days at Laguna Seca before I matched the MotorTrend pro time of 1:47.9. http://youtu.be/vgAIInPmlzQ

[yyoo]

Originally Posted by 414bhp

I am inclined to believe that MotorTrend does these Laguna Seca tests using completely stock cars, including stock tires and brakes. Why? Well, if they were upgrading the brakes with track pads and fluids they would not be reporting brake fade in less than 1 lap for the 1M!

MotorTrend on the 1M: "Still, the brakes faded every time you really got on it. Especially on the track, where the stoppers felt good for less than a lap. This is surprising considering they're the same discs as on the M3, but we think we had to use them more frequently because of the car's unsorted behavior. Randy found that getting on the middle pedal in a hurry would exacerbate the 1M's constant understeering. Moreover, the brakes warped badly during our canyon run, the only car here to fail in any way."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...s_m_coupe.html

Also, I know they made a big to-do over the Corvette's factory optional race-spec tires when the Corvette was the fastest around Laguna Seca. Thus, I think they test with the tires that arrive on the car.

I am impressed though that the MotorTrend pro-driver sets his lap times with minimal seat time (maybe 30 minutes/10 laps?) in cars he has never driven before. In my personal car -- a 2006 Evo IX MR with just DTC60 pads and stock diameter R-S3 tires -- it took me six HPDE days at Laguna Seca before I matched the MotorTrend pro time of 1:47.9. http://youtu.be/vgAIInPmlzQ

And you can go deeper still. The R-S3s are good for a couple of seconds over even some of the best stock tires and the pads are perhaps worth a second or more at a track like Laguna Seca.

And though Pobst and Angelelli are big-time pros, I think experienced time trialers like Billy Johnson could probably take it even deeper.

One thing I've learned over the years...there is always someone faster. Even when we think we've reached the limits of our cars, someone else has found a way to extend that limit...usually by rotating the car faster and getting on the gas earlier.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by armyav8tor

Track/Course: VIR Full
Best Lap Time: 2:15
Brake Pads: Performance Friction front BBK / Stock rear
Tires (Size & Model): 19" ZCP Style 359/ Continental ContiSportContact 5P, 255F/285R
Suspension: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs w/ e36 M3 bumpstops
Other Mods: AA Green Filter, AA Pulley, Akrapovic Evolution

Those are beatutiful pictures!!

[armyav8tor]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Those are beatutiful pictures!!

Thanks! Cost me a pretty penny to buy them. Here are some more.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658880

[klammer]

Originally Posted by yyoo

And you can go deeper still. The R-S3s are good for a couple of seconds over even some of the best stock tires and the pads are perhaps worth a second or more at a track like Laguna Seca.

And though Pobst and Angelelli are big-time pros, I think experienced time trialers like Billy Johnson could probably take it even deeper.

One thing I've learned over the years...there is always someone faster. Even when we think we've reached the limits of our cars, someone else has found a way to extend that limit...usually by rotating the car faster and getting on the gas earlier.

Agreed