BullRun Rally 2012, looking for a co-driver!

[MDyDinanM]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

But 100 on the highway with no one around? How is that reckless?

guess you never heard of the infamous "murphy"....

Ah well. I'm sure you'll have fun and it's a great event, and we'll look forward to reading your 2012 report

[Sean05]

WOW now this is interesting to read...

to be honest... i could care less what others do as long as im not doing it... it might be reckless but hey they know the consiquences if all hell break loose..

well have fun anyways OP on the 2012 Bull RUN.... wish i could go.. but thats all i can do is wish...

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by Sean05

WOW now this is interesting to read...

to be honest... i could care less what others do as long as im not doing it... it might be reckless but hey they know the consiquences if all hell break loose..

well have fun anyways OP on the 2012 Bull RUN.... wish i could go.. but thats all i can do is wish...

Well, if they crash into someone else - it does f@cking matter what *they* do.

[Sean05]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Well, if they crash into someone else - it does f@cking matter what *they* do.

well how you going to stop them YES i do not support it... but what do you think we can do? you got any ideas to stop them from doing it...

most of them are old enough and they know exactly what they are doing.. so god forbid if that ever happens hope no one gets hurt but like i said what the fawk are we suppose to do? we can tell them all day dont do it... but do you really think we can stop them from doing it.

bro you need to chillax everyone is not like you... as much as i hate it as well of them doing stupid things... oh well like i said as long as im not doing it im good to go...

[dtmwerksm3]

Always wanted to do a rally, this would be so dope!

[DrakeKemper]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Well, if they crash into someone else - it does f@cking matter what *they* do.

Says the person who drives "fast and takes chances".

[swartzentruber]

Originally Posted by Sean05

most of them are old enough and they know exactly what they are doing.. so god forbid if that ever happens hope no one gets hurt but like i said what the fawk are we suppose to do? we can tell them all day dont do it... but do you really think we can stop them from doing it.

You are probably right, but I suppose one can at least point out that if anything serious ever did happen, like an accident that involved killing an innocent, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine an ambitious local prosecutor turning it into a manslaughter charge and putting someone away for many years. Yeah, I read the report from last year, and yeah, it sounds like fun, but it's also irresponsibility at the level of something usually ends up going badly (fatally) wrong, and ends up resulting in states and/or Congress passing draconian laws that end up impacting all of us. Also, it's getting harder and harder to be anonymous doing things like this.

[boomer28]

Originally Posted by swartzentruber

You are probably right, but I suppose one can at least point out that if anything serious ever did happen, like an accident that involved killing an innocent, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine an ambitious local prosecutor turning it into a manslaughter charge and putting someone away for many years. Yeah, I read the report from last year, and yeah, it sounds like fun, but it's also irresponsibility at the level of something usually ends up going badly (fatally) wrong, and ends up resulting in states and/or Congress passing draconian laws that end up impacting all of us. Also, it's getting harder and harder to be anonymous doing things like this.

My same 2 concerns. It is one thing if you are driving fast and wreck, another if you do so and hurt someone else, and a whole other can of worms if you do so while partaking in some underground race rally. The prosecutor and victim will OWN you (see Hulk Hogan's asshole son as an example).

The 2nd is the selfish one but more realistic. Bunch of rich guys in fancy cars wreck in a spectacular fashion and next thing you know the politicians get ahold of it and life gets really ugly for the next random guy to get caught speeding.

Still sounds fun but I could NEVER, EVER entertain partaking in something like this on public roads in this country.

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

Says the person who drives "fast and takes chances".

... on the track. But seriously, you are pointing out a profile tag and compare that to actual speeding on public roads?

[DrakeKemper]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

... on the track. But seriously, you are pointing out a profile tag and compare that to actual speeding on public roads?

You're telling me you own a supercharged M3 and have never gone 76MPH on the street? thats speeding

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

You're telling me you own a supercharged M3 and have never gone 76MPH on the street? thats speeding

Yes, of course I speed... but there is a huge difference between going 80 in a 65 zone, and going over a 100mph in a 35 zone. Don't you think?

[DrakeKemper]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Yes, of course I speed... but there is a huge difference between going 80 in a 65 zone, and going over a 100mph in a 35 zone. Don't you think?

I never said it was ME doing 100 in a 35, most of the highspeeds are in the middle of nowhere. It was indeed in the middle of nowhere in the mountians of CO when he got caught. Yes, it was stupid and reckless of him, he'll admit that, but that doesn't mean everything on the bullrun and every driver doing everything is reckless.

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

I never said it was ME doing 100 in a 35, most of the highspeeds are in the middle of nowhere. It was indeed in the middle of nowhere in the mountians of CO when he got caught. Yes, it was stupid and reckless of him, he'll admit that, but that doesn't mean everything on the bullrun and every driver doing everything is reckless.

C'mon. I know how these things work. If you tell me you haven't done this on a run, I will have a difficult time believing you. These things are havens for testosterone laden lawlessness.

[swartzentruber]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

I never said it was ME doing 100 in a 35, most of the highspeeds are in the middle of nowhere. It was indeed in the middle of nowhere in the mountians of CO when he got caught. Yes, it was stupid and reckless of him, he'll admit that, but that doesn't mean everything on the bullrun and every driver doing everything is reckless.

Look, are you really so unintelligent that you don't understand the difference between playing Russian roulette with a 100 round chamber vs 6, pointing it at your arm vs your head, and pointing it at yourself vs someone else? Know the risks of what you are doing, and as we say in finance, understand the "fat tail" when things go wrong (in other words, what's the worst that can happen when the shit hits the fan).

There's a huge difference between doing something a little risky, and doing something that at least to an outside observer, seems like hitting the freeway sporting a .3 BAC. Yeah, maybe you can get away with for a while, but sooner or later something bad is bound to happen, and under similar events like what was in last year's blog, could be something really bad that ends up with someone dead, someone innocent dead, and/or someone in jail for a long time (given that some the actions seem like premeditated felony).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicular_homicide

Sounds like this event fits the bill nicely.

[MDyDinanM]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

I never said it was ME doing 100 in a 35, most of the highspeeds are in the middle of nowhere. It was indeed in the middle of nowhere in the mountians of CO when he got caught. Yes, it was stupid and reckless of him, he'll admit that, but that doesn't mean everything on the bullrun and every driver doing everything is reckless.

lol, trying to act all innocent,

These excerpts from your 2011 Bull Run story - was that not you driving?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568577

great read though!

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

Super sharp corners, negative camber, fast straights, it was a blast. And passing BullRunners that have no track experience on a road that is like a race track? Like shooting Fish in a Barrel. Oh, and taking corners at 1**MPH with a full fuel cell in your trunk? Like driving with rear tires made from soap. Before you know it we were running with the main pack, but Claus was nowhere to be seen.

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

Out of the middle of nowhere, Instant on K-Band, we are all ready for it, pass the cop at 95, we know he is going to come out and nab someone, but he doesn't. Waiting for someone faster.

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

By the time the pack passed me, I was already out of the car, feet shoulder width apart, and my hands behind my back (We were very well in the lead). I talked to the cop for about 20 minutes, before he reaches in his car... my heart stops... cuffs? I was sweating, I've never been to jail and never want to be arrested. He reached in his car... and takes 2 photographs of me. "Incase I run?", I ask? He replies, "I just wanted to get a good picture of that shirt". I look down to remember that I'm wearing Penguin Footy Pajamas pulled down, tied around my waist, Pink Teddy Bear shoes, and a black shirt. A black shirt that appropriately reads "Hello Officer".
The cop was very nice to me ticket wise, Yes I got a ticket, but it wasn't the one I deserved.

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

County roads with very low traffic, meant a very high speed. Okay, not NASCAR speeds, but 85MPH on some twisties. We approach a white Durango going 75 in a 55, I don't think twice to pass it, pop into the left lane, gun it, pull back over and Red and blue lights appear in my rear-view mirror. An undercover cop. I tone it down to 65

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Funny how this thread turned from a request for a co-pilot to a speed bashing thread.

[Team Plutonium]

I actually love the BullRun Rally and Gumball 3000. But I think you can participate without going ridiculous speeds... I was actually thinking about that.

Of course I put the hammer down once in a while, but again, there is a huge difference between stepping on it once in a while and maintaining excessive speeds.

Drake is a good driver, no question... many of us seen him driving, but on a public road there are so many variables that you can't control.

I wish the rally organizers would include (just like gumball) track events. But man, if you party all night and then speed like crazy on a public road with a hangover you are just asking for trouble.

[m3an]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I actually love the BullRun Rally and Gumball 3000. But I think you can participate without going ridiculous speeds... I was actually thinking about that.

Of course I put the hammer down once in a while, but again, there is a huge difference between stepping on it once in a while and maintaining excessive speeds.

Drake is a good driver, no question... many of us seen him driving, but on a public road there are so many variables that you can't control.

I wish the rally organizers would include (just like gumball) track events. But man, if you party all night and then speed like crazy on a public road with a hangover you are just asking for trouble.

let it go man... what are you trying to prove; don't like it, don't read it and move on.

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by talontid

let it go man... what are you trying to prove; don't like it, don't read it and move on.

Oh, I thought I'm on a public forum having a discussion...

[4sevens.com]

Just thinking about doing bullrun is a rush but like so many of you pointed out - is it worth the risk? Could you live with yourself if you were part of what killed someone?

All it takes for bullrun to be shutdown is an even like this with someone killed: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651526

Theres just too much risk due to uncontrolled variables to do this on the street.

[MDyDinanM]

Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Just thinking about doing bullrun is a rush but like so many of you pointed out - is it worth the risk? Could you live with yourself if you were part of what killed someone?

All it takes for bullrun to be shutdown is an even like this with someone killed: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651526

Theres just too much risk due to uncontrolled variables to do this on the street.

they had an incident last year where a R8 Sypder rear-ended a local driver. No one was hurt fortunately.

I'm sure everyone heard that there was a wreck on the BullRun. Here is what ACTUALLY happened, don't listen to the rumors. ONE BullRun car was involved, the R8 spyder was ruined as it rear-ended a Honda. NO ONE was hurt, and everyone is doing 100% perfectly fine. It wasn't a 6 car pile-up like some websites reported.

[swartzentruber]

Sorry, one more interjection, then I'll stop. When I think Bullrun, this is what it reminds me of:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102685/
"The Ultimate Rush", of course, until something goes badly wrong.

[Erhan]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

Says the person who drives "fast and takes chances".

Haha that's pretty stupid. You probably think I'm The Stig.