BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Coding / ConnectedDrive / Audio-Video / Electronics / Bluetooth / I-Drive & Nav
 
ESS Tuning
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-13-2012, 05:15 PM   #23
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Not me... I only recommend the Quadralock pin 13 in the back of the iDrive as the OEM remote turn on signal wire.
It's possible then I got confused when Pin13 was given as the place for the remote that it was for the pin in the glovebox.

So you're saying that Pin13 is on the iDrive controller under the center console?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2012, 07:27 PM   #24
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,911
iTrader: (16)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
It's possible then I got confused when Pin13 was given as the place for the remote that it was for the pin in the glovebox.

So you're saying that Pin13 is on the iDrive controller under the center console?
Pin 13 in the back of the iDrive computer, as shown in the video in the link above... remove computer (CIC), unplug Quadralock, tap thin black wire and run wire to the aftermarket amp/processor.

Use an inline 1A fuse in that wire for protection.
__________________
-2015 F30 320i, Imperial/Oyster, 8AT: August 2014 ED
-2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: September 2011 ED
-2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone
-2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone
-2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2012, 09:36 PM   #25
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Pin 13 in the back of the iDrive computer, as shown in the video in the link above... remove computer (CIC), unplug Quadralock, tap thin black wire and run wire to the aftermarket amp/processor.

Use an inline 1A fuse in that wire for protection.
So why would it be an issue to use one of the fuses like I've already done since the fuse panel shouldn't receive constant power? And if this is an issue, would it cause some sort of feedback in the passenger sub like I have sometimes during startup or is this unrelated?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2012, 10:11 PM   #26
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,911
iTrader: (16)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
So why would it be an issue to use one of the fuses like I've already done since the fuse panel shouldn't receive constant power? And if this is an issue, would it cause some sort of feedback in the passenger sub like I have sometimes during startup or is this unrelated?
I have no idea of what type of signal you tapped (12V ignition switchable, 12V constant, 12V controlled by a circuit other than ignition).
__________________
-2015 F30 320i, Imperial/Oyster, 8AT: August 2014 ED
-2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: September 2011 ED
-2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone
-2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone
-2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2012, 11:26 PM   #27
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List



This is exactly why there needs to be a DIY. Im on it the second I get a chance!


Tech, if you want, you can come over to my house help me take pics of this DIY and we'll fix yours too. Im in South OC.
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 09:07 AM   #28
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
I have no idea of what type of signal you tapped (12V ignition switchable, 12V constant, 12V controlled by a circuit other than ignition).
Pin 13 in the fuse panel (since I thought that's what was meant by Pin 13 when I first did this install).
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 09:08 AM   #29
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILSMKU View Post



This is exactly why there needs to be a DIY. Im on it the second I get a chance!


Tech, if you want, you can come over to my house help me take pics of this DIY and we'll fix yours too. Im in South OC.
I'm gonna take care of mine today in case this is indeed causing some issues. I would be happy to come down though and help do yours if you want or just hang. Let me know when you plan on doing yours.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:01 PM   #30
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Well, I removed the lower, rear driver's side seat cushion and there are no wires there except for the two that go to the fuel pump I assume. Do you know if this black wire we are chasing is in the loom that is under the same side's side bolster? Is there only one thin, black wire to look for?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #31
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Oh and just an FYI, it was TMR and not Technic who told me that it was pin 13. He just wasn't specific where pin 13 was located. If someone just tells me a pin number, I assume we are just speaking about the fuse panel and not another more specific location.

Here is his quote from my LC2i thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR View Post
Yes, a remote wire. Pin 13 is the best option. Takes less than 30 min to run.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:23 PM   #32
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
I am looking at the wires behind the bolster now assuming that's where it's located. Is it solid black or is it black with a colored stripe?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #33
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
^^^ Good luck getting an answer! I hope you find something! =)
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:41 PM   #34
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILSMKU View Post
^^^ Good luck getting an answer! I hope you find something! =)
Technic's a great guy and I know when he has a moment, he will chime in on it. I just don't want the extra work and hassle of removing the stereo when the wires under the side rear seat bolster are easy to deal with.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:43 PM   #35
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
Technic's a great guy and I know when he has a moment, he will chime in on it. I just want the extra work and hassle of removing the stereo when the wires under the side rear seat bolster are easy to deal with.

Dude, I totally agree. Im not looking forward to touching my dash at all. Ive already got a few rattles that are driving me nuts. The less I have to remove, the better. Plus, I don't want to have to run a wire from the back all the way up there. That just means more stuff to remove just to tuck a wire.
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #36
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILSMKU View Post
Dude, I totally agree. Im not looking forward to touching my dash at all. Ive already got a few rattles that are driving me nuts. The less I have to remove, the better. Plus, I don't want to have to run a wire from the back all the way up there. That just means more stuff to remove just to tuck a wire.
Actually as far as tucking the wire goes, there is nothing to remove to go up to the front. It can all be done without removing one single item. I just see no need to go all the way as to remove the radio if that wire on the driver's side rear will be fine. I already have the lower cushion and side bolster removed. So once I have confirmation of the actual wire, it should be easy cheesy.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:46 PM   #37
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
Did you go down the middle or along a door jam?
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #38
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILSMKU View Post
Did you go down the middle or along a door jam?
Along the door jamb.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #39
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
^^ty.
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 01:09 PM   #40
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,911
iTrader: (16)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
Well, I removed the lower, rear driver's side seat cushion and there are no wires there except for the two that go to the fuel pump I assume. Do you know if this black wire we are chasing is in the loom that is under the same side's side bolster? Is there only one thin, black wire to look for?
The Rust Brown part in the photo is the cushion/bolster:


Remove the C-pillar trim and then the cushion/bolster (in that order):



You should see a harness/bunch of wires either behind the bolster or the C-pillar trim. One of those wires should be a thin black wire, no other markings... that is the remote turn on.

I think that only removing the C-pillar trim could be enough to find the wire as it has to go thru that route to get to the antenna amplifier mounted in the back of the roof. Try that...
__________________
-2015 F30 320i, Imperial/Oyster, 8AT: August 2014 ED
-2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: September 2011 ED
-2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone
-2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone
-2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 01:12 PM   #41
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
The Rust Brown part in the photo is the cushion/bolster:


Remove the cushion/bolster and perhaps the C-pillar trim (optional):



You should see a harness/bunch of wires either behind the bolster or the C-pillar trim. One of those wires should be a thin black wire, no other markings... that is the remote turn on.
Ok, solid black and thin (that's what she said...haha)...got it. And the same wire will be under the leather bolster correct? There's only one thin, black wire yes?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 01:14 PM   #42
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,911
iTrader: (16)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
Ok, solid black and thin (that's what she said...haha)...got it. And the same wire will be under the leather bolster correct? There's only one thin, black wire yes?
Try removing the C-pillar only... the wire must be somewhere there. And it is the only one...
__________________
-2015 F30 320i, Imperial/Oyster, 8AT: August 2014 ED
-2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: September 2011 ED
-2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone
-2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone
-2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 01:15 PM   #43
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Try removing the C-pillar only... the wire must be somewhere there. And it is the only one...
Will do, thanks.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2012, 01:17 PM   #44
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Try that...

Hey thanks!!!
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST