What is your HIGHEST Educational level?

[CardSurge]

Originally Posted by Stronghammer

Sorry to disappoint boys. Out of training and practicing GS for 15 years now. Took trauma call last night. What did you do ?

Ha...then I guess you get a pass.

In-house call. Slow night...hence the posts.

[pedrobot]

Originally Posted by CardSurge

Not really the point I was trying to make...just saying that everyone is trained to do very specific things very well (especially in specialties).

That being said, I guess it depends who I had to "throw" to. You don't need many people to keep someone alive with a roller pump and an oxygenator. Additionally, I'd say circ arrest is more analogous to Lazarus-esque God-mode than Tom Brady. (U U D D L R L R B A Select Start)

Yeah, I agree with what you're saying here:
..."everyone is trained to do very specific things very well (especially in specialties). "

What I don't agree with is the megalomaniac attitude. Case in point:
"Additionally, I'd say circ arrest is more analogous to Lazarus-esque God-mode..."


God mode = creating life
Surgeon mode = modifying life

Surgeons are highly technical and analytical, most of the ones I know anyways. But last time I checked they put their pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us. Simmer down guy or your head may not fit between the A-pillar and B-pillar of your M.

[CardSurge]

Originally Posted by pedrobot

Yeah, I agree with what you're saying here:
..."everyone is trained to do very specific things very well (especially in specialties). "

What I don't agree with is the megalomaniac attitude. Case in point:
"Additionally, I'd say circ arrest is more analogous to Lazarus-esque God-mode..."


God mode = creating life
Surgeon mode = modifying life

Surgeons are highly technical and analytical, most of the ones I know anyways. But last time I checked they put their pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us. Simmer down guy or your head may not fit between the A-pillar and B-pillar of your M.

I was joking. As mentioned before, I am dependent on lots of people (almost all non-surgical) to do my job. Also, I still hate Tom Brady for the tuck rule, so I found that insulting. And most of the time I don't wear pants.

[pedrobot]

Originally Posted by CardSurge

I was joking. As mentioned before, I am dependent on lots of people (almost all non-surgical) to do my job. Also, I still hate Tom Brady for the tuck rule, so I found that insulting. And most of the time I don't wear pants.

So does the scrub top match the skirt?

J/K man.

Go GIANTS!

[mact3333]

On 6speedonline.com on the Porsche MB, there was a thread on "how many physicians on here?" thread...that thread went over 10 pages...I think 1/4 of that board were physicians...think % here is much smaller.

[///My5UV]

Does "Pimpin' Ho's Degree" go under PhD?

BTW, not all men that are circumcised are Jewish... not sure if the surgeons here want to help anyone out with that...

[javistor]

Originally Posted by ///My5UV

Does "Pimpin' Ho's Degree" go under PhD?

BTW, not all men that are circumcised are Jewish... not sure if the surgeons here want to help anyone out with that...

[FruitCake]

[LarThaL]

Originally Posted by CardSurge

Agree.

The anesthesiologists, radiologists, cardiologists, perfusionists, etc that I work with are some of the best and brightest individuals I know and in their field. I have the utmost respect for them. That being said, they can collectively do about ~3% of my job and skillset. Partly due to the fact that my training is 2 times that of a fellow-trained anesthesiologist or cardiologist. We face some of the most stressful situations of any profession (excluding active military) on a routine basis.

Let's stop bashing and just enjoy the fact that we can all usually get out of our (flagrant) speeding tickets.

Agree with some of your points. Disagree with others.

1. No question that CT surg is a very stressful specialty. Though I no longer do, I practiced cardiac anesthesia at a major academic center for a number of years, so I really do know.

2. "3%"....not really. You have a highly technical skill as a CT surgeon with regards to your ability and knowledge of grafts, valves, and proximal aortic surgery. Your knowledge of cardiopulmonary physiology, however, is the same as an equally competent cardiac anesthesiologist, or invasive cardiologist. We and they have our own technical expertise. Remember, too, that at least on the anesthesia side, most cardiac anesthesiologists also do other stuff.

3. A fellowship trained cardaic anesthesiologist is 5-6 years depending on whether or not a reseach year is involved. Interventional cardiology is 6-7 years including IM residency then fellowship. Last I knew, CT surg was 8-9 years including GS residency. Longer, yes, but twice as long, no.

Along with CT surg, the most stressful situations in medicine I think are surrounding an emergency c-section for fetal distress. Just as stressful as a blown out mitral or cardiogenic shock with an occluded left main. Seriously. Technically, and equally as challenging in the OR setting is surgery/anesthesia on premature infants. Necrotizing Enterocolitis is a perfect example of this.

Anyway, I don't think anyone is bashing anyone. So yes, while I wholeheartedly acknowledge the intensity of CT surg, there are other situations in medicine that are equally as intense. It's actually nice to converse with people who you have a lot in common with. In this case, medicine and a love of cars !!!!

[mpbruin108]

after 12 years after graduating high school, got my MD and now work with eyes. I think it was too much schooling

[El_Duderino]

Originally Posted by Stronghammer

Sorry to disappoint boys. Out of training and practicing GS for 15 years now. Took trauma call last night. What did you do ?

Oto surgeon. I was on call too!

[spyderco10]

I would like to express my sincerest gratitude and respect to the MDs, and surgeons in particular. A cardiothoracic surgeon saved my life a number of years back. Had surgeries due to a spontaneous pneumothorax, both lungs.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by mact3333

On 6speedonline.com on the Porsche MB, there was a thread on "how many physicians on here?" thread...that thread went over 10 pages...I think 1/4 of that board were physicians...think % here is much smaller.

So wait..there is a correlation between lucrative professions and expensive autos..Im shocked..

On a serious note I think the percentages on here are much smaller due to the age of most forum member...which is under 30 yrs of age.. this precludes them from having yet attained post graduate degrees including MDs

[BLACK OPS]

Originally Posted by VVG

Agree with some of your points. Disagree with others.

1. No question that CT surg is a very stressful specialty. Though I no longer do, I practiced cardiac anesthesia at a major academic center for a number of years, so I really do know.

2. "3%"....not really. You have a highly technical skill as a CT surgeon with regards to your ability and knowledge of grafts, valves, and proximal aortic surgery. Your knowledge of cardiopulmonary physiology, however, is the same as an equally competent cardiac anesthesiologist, or invasive cardiologist. We and they have our own technical expertise. Remember, too, that at least on the anesthesia side, most cardiac anesthesiologists also do other stuff.

3. A fellowship trained cardaic anesthesiologist is 5-6 years depending on whether or not a reseach year is involved. Interventional cardiology is 6-7 years including IM residency then fellowship. Last I knew, CT surg was 8-9 years including GS residency. Longer, yes, but twice as long, no.

Along with CT surg, the most stressful situations in medicine I think are surrounding an emergency c-section for fetal distress. Just as stressful as a blown out mitral or cardiogenic shock with an occluded left main. Seriously. Technically, and equally as challenging in the OR setting is surgery/anesthesia on premature infants. Necrotizing Enterocolitis is a perfect example of this.

Anyway, I don't think anyone is bashing anyone. So yes, while I wholeheartedly acknowledge the intensity of CT surg, there are other situations in medicine that are equally as intense. It's actually nice to converse with people who you have a lot in common with. In this case, medicine and a love of cars !!!!

If it aint broke don't fix it....I'll stick with the intensity of an Orthopedic surgeon!

[SirSpeedy]

What are the providers thoughts on healthcare reform?

[pedrobot]

Originally Posted by SirSpeedy

What are the providers thoughts on healthcare reform?

Don't go there. That's all I will say.

[808@702]

Masters in sex education. Years of field research.

[FifthStreetz]

dropped out after 6th grade.

[gblansten]

Bean doc

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by tibra1

So wait..there is a correlation between lucrative professions and expensive autos..Im shocked..

On a serious note I think the percentages on here are much smaller due to the age of most forum member...which is under 30 yrs of age.. this precludes them from having yet attained post graduate degrees including MDs

yeah, the earliest you can attain a MD would be around age 27-28 I think. I would say the most likely post-grad degree for ppl under 30 would be an MBA.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by mdosu

yeah, the earliest you can attain a MD would be around age 27-28 I think. I would say the most likely post-grad degree for ppl under 30 would be an MBA.

26 is a common age to graduate from med school. 22 after college then 26 getting the MD.

[HeartMD]

Originally Posted by CardSurge

Agree.

The anesthesiologists, radiologists, cardiologists, perfusionists, etc that I work with are some of the best and brightest individuals I know and in their field. I have the utmost respect for them. That being said, they can collectively do about ~3% of my job and skillset. Partly due to the fact that my training is 2 times that of a fellow-trained anesthesiologist or cardiologist. We face some of the most stressful situations of any profession (excluding active military) on a routine basis.

Let's stop bashing and just enjoy the fact that we can all usually get out of our (flagrant) speeding tickets.

Id rather say that you have a completely different specialty (albiet very specialized) hence others cant do what you do. Rather then stating that your training was 2 times longer. Last time I check I trained for Six years and CT was not 12. All are different in there own right. I sure as hell could not perform a CABG, MVR or AVR but wouldnt expect a ct surgeon to manage decompensated HF, medically manage arrythmia etc.
FYI not trying to get into a pissing contest as I admit we NEED your skill set, but your comment comes across as a condescending attempt to belittle other specialties.