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      02-09-2012, 12:04 AM   #23
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*Sorry, for all reasonable purposes, means joining an empty motorway and accelerating to about 120kph on our way back from mountain biking...btw...actual racing on the road is for crazies....and thats why I do regular track days.

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      02-09-2012, 12:10 AM   #24
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Ppl need to realize that there is a difference between something being quick vs fast.
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      02-09-2012, 01:13 AM   #25
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Probably a sleeper. I used to put 328i badges on my car and tell people it was a 328i with an M3 bodykit so they would race me.
Why would anyone do that? This is real life, not a gay movie with Paul Walker.
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      02-09-2012, 01:27 AM   #26
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Ppl need to realize that there is a difference between something being quick vs fast.
Exactly my thoughts...
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      02-09-2012, 02:19 AM   #27
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Why would anyone do that? This is real life, not a gay movie with Paul Walker.
Calm down it was a joke...
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      02-09-2012, 05:26 AM   #28
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Why would anyone do that? This is real life, not a gay movie with Paul Walker.
lmao!!

I can't believe we are even discussing this. It is obvious a stock 335d can smoke an M3.
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      02-09-2012, 05:52 AM   #29
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E36 M3 vs Tuned 335D



since we have already established the 335D beats the E92 M3

I guess this establishes that we need to dump our E92s for E36s!

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      02-09-2012, 06:27 AM   #30
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How a 335d, with 265hp can beat an M3 with 414hp? Sure you can tune the 335d, but how much? There's a long way from 265 to 414.

ps: torque means it can pull stuff (including itself). hp means how fast it can pull stuff (including itself). sure a lot of torque gives advantage to average HP under the curve, but M3 has virtually flat torque curve with aggressive gearing which keeps it in the power band.
Turbo with a tune is beast.
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      02-09-2012, 08:35 AM   #31
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      02-09-2012, 09:15 AM   #32
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so bmws m division made a car that a diesel can beat ?
in that respect we must be mad spending all that extra money on a car thats not as good ?
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      02-09-2012, 09:22 AM   #33
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335i/335d with tune can easily eat heavily modded NA M3, this is no doubt. But what it means same interior and suspension? The interior is supposed to be almost identical... I respect 335i as I owned before but some of the 335i owners are m3 haters just because they are jealous. M badge adds 30HP
You say a heavily modded E9* M3 will lose to a tuned 335i/335d?

What do you mean by heavily modded? Because to me a supercharger on our M3 is heavily modifying it. Most supercharged M3's will smoke a 335...
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      02-09-2012, 09:44 AM   #34
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some threads in here will never cease to amaze me...
i guess that's what happens when a car has been out for 4+ years and every serious / relevant issue / comparo / design flaw / etc... has been beaten to death...
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      02-09-2012, 09:48 AM   #35
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Guy was super serious too. Thought I was an idiot for buying an M3 cause his was better for way less money. He put an M badge just to the left of the 335d emblem. That was my first impression that I was dealing with a poser.
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if i put a M-badge on my Michubichi, do i get an extra 114hp too?
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      02-09-2012, 10:06 AM   #37
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Just ran into a guy who had the M logo all over his 335d. Told me how it was the same suspension and interior as the M3. Told me he could beat me in a race too. Thought it was quite hilarious.
He was daydreaming and you knew it right ... right
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Turbo with a tune is beast.
Sure, but how're you going to get to 414 from 265 with a tune? We're talking about more than 50% increase. You just can't do that without changing bunch of parts. Even then, M3 has shorter gear ratios which will keep it up on the rev range, hence power band.
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Sure, but how're you going to get to 414 from 265 with a tune? We're talking about more than 50% increase. You just can't do that without changing bunch of parts. Even then, M3 has shorter gear ratios which will keep it up on the rev range, hence power band.
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NOS.
Haha sure, tune, nos, bring it on. You'll beat the M3, but then you'll beat the crap out of your engine as well
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Haha sure, tune, nos, bring it on. You'll beat the M3, but then you'll beat the carp out of your engine as well
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      02-09-2012, 01:40 PM   #43
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the gearing is horrible in the 335d, that's why it will only run 13.8s at 102 mph-ish in 1/4 mile. And on the track, give me a break, that baby weighs more than the M3 and has 335 suspension.
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the gearing is horrible in the 335d, that's why it will only run 13.8s at 102 mph-ish in 1/4 mile. And on the track, give me a break, that baby weighs more than the M3 and has 335 suspension.
335D wasn't built to be a track car


Honestly, if i had the ability to turn my M3 into a 335D for the street, and push a button and have it turn into a M3 for the track, I'd do it

I had a 335D for a couple weeks and I was in love.
Since I'm the type that rarely takes his M over 3-4k RPM on the street, 6kish on the freeway, the 335D is the best commuter car for me.

I barely had to touch the throttle and I'd be able to do 60-80 passes on the highway etc
while getting close to 30MPG! I only get about 18MMPG in my M3

Before you guys say I don't drive my M3 "right" or"the way it was designed" etc.... I track 2-3 times a month, more than enough (for me) to get my speed fix

There's no denying that a 335D is a better DD/commuter car.

o and with a tune... I could see a 335D beating a decently modified M3 (Xpipe, filter, pulley, no FI...)
This being only a straight line 'race' without really reaching high speeds
As with a JB4, you can gain about 60hp and 100 torque on the 335D. Amazing what ~$300 can do to that car
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