Vishnu Procede/PWM Meth Product Release

M3DCTBT · 01-26-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

There is really no chance for a software glitch to allow for aggressive mapping without the presence of methanol flow. Even the flow meter itself is pared down to the basics. Unlike the off-the-shelf Aquamist flow meter (which itself has been proven to be dead nuts reliable over the years), our custom provides a raw 0-5v square wave signal provided from a hall sensor reading the turbine blades. Virtually no additional electronics to add complication. Remember that this methanol control system was first designed on the N54 twin turbo engine where it would be used to bump boost and timing to levels that are completely unsupportable on race gas.

In the case of the s65 kit, the mapping we use when methanol is flowing is about as aggressive as what we've seen with off-the-shelf flashes. The difference being that the mapping is supportable (and results in power) when the Procede calls upon it (in presence of methanol flow). Whereas the aggressive mapping I've seen in the flashes only comes into play when running on race gas. All other times, the knock sensor is working overtime to keep the engine from pinging.

Shiv

The stock car on 91oct has an adaptive value of -3degrees for the most part, while 93-95 mixed cars have 0 adaptive values. What values have you seen with the meth/procede cars after forcing timing - that to me is an interesting question.

MSPORTWORLD · 01-27-2012, 09:11 PM

Ordered placed! Next week is going to be an exciting week!

Longbow64 · 01-27-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hkyplaynazn

Ordered placed! Next week is going to be an exciting week!

Welcome to the club. You won't regret it. What else do you have on your car? Are you going to Dyno?

MSPORTWORLD · 01-27-2012, 11:22 PM

RPI catless xpipe and some scoops. Will be scheduling some dyno time in the near future.

In Extremis · 01-29-2012, 11:41 PM

Just ordered mine

I just bought a new e92 which is totally stock at the moment. I'll definitely have my car on a dyno before and after. Over the next 2 weeks car will have macht schnell stage 2 intake, dinan pulley, catless exhaust and meth.

JA///MES · 02-02-2012, 01:13 AM

Your gonna love this kit! Longbow64 and I have had it for like 2 months and the results are amazing.

TMR · 02-02-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JA///MES

Your gonna love this kit! Longbow64 and I have had it for like 2 months and the results are amazing.

I've had mine 3 months and I just filled the last of the 5 gallon meth jug I got. Best $30 I've spent.

M3MamBo · 02-02-2012, 07:39 AM

Im very interested but I have Dinan software and Intake.. Should i remove the software? Will there be any issues or differences with the Dinan charge pipe and filter?

M3MamBo · 02-02-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by M3MamBo

Im very interested but I have Dinan software and Intake.. Should i remove the software? Will there be any issues or differences with the Dinan charge pipe and filter?

Oh I forgot to mention that I really don't plan on getting on the dyno

Longbow64 · 02-02-2012, 10:42 AM

No differences or issues with the Dinan pipe or intake. The software is Dinan, so I'd assume that it's a good conservative tune. Like Shiv posted in previous post, the Procede can be used on top of an aftermarket tune.

oct1285 · 02-02-2012, 09:56 PM

made an appointment today to go in next week for the procede/meth install. Looking forward to more power

DylanMckay · 02-03-2012, 01:43 AM

Is this something a super novice can install? How much piping is actually invovled? Do you have to open up the intake manifold?

DylanMckay · 02-03-2012, 01:58 AM

I just wanted to confirm. On the website under the link provided, it lists the meth system but than in parenthesis it says (N54). Is this just an error and obviously should read S65? All the other info is about the m3 and the price is 995-is this the right one?

Also-I take it you need to order the proceed and the meth kit seperatly correct? Ordering the meth kit is just the hardware and no software/proceed?

So total is 1900ish am I correct?

M3MamBo · 02-03-2012, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Longbow64

No differences or issues with the Dinan pipe or intake. The software is Dinan, so I'd assume that it's a good conservative tune. Like Shiv posted in previous post, the Procede can be used on top of an aftermarket tune.

Wouldn't installing the proceed on top of the Dinan software give you problems with trying to dyno it and is this the only issue that will arise?

TMR · 02-03-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DylanMckay

Is this something a super novice can install? How much piping is actually invovled? Do you have to open up the intake manifold?

Not at all. It should take someone that's never done it before maybe 3-5 hours tops. I can do it in about 30min to an hour. Only the airbox/air filter need to be removed not the manifold.

DylanMckay · 02-03-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by M3MamBo

Wouldn't installing the proceed on top of the Dinan software give you problems with trying to dyno it and is this the only issue that will arise?

Pointless to install a piggy back over an existing tune. Does not make any sense. Dinans changes to vanos, timing and a/f may not work well with the targets set by proceed. Proceed per shiv makes no adjustments to vanos, therefore with dinans vanos adjustments, that may not play as nicely with proceeds a/f and timing targets for example.

Whats the point-flash to stock and then use the piggy oink oink

BPMSport · 02-03-2012, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Longbow64

No differences or issues with the Dinan pipe or intake. The software is Dinan, so I'd assume that it's a good conservative tune. Like Shiv posted in previous post, the Procede can be used on top of an aftermarket tune.

I would highly recommend not using it in conjunction with a tune..

It's not going to cause serious issues but it's not the optimal configuration.

j2m · 02-03-2012, 03:35 PM

Has anyone done this with Stock Exhaust and stock CATS?

the infamous... · 02-03-2012, 05:09 PM

whoa, good shit! solid gains.

Space Ghost · 02-03-2012, 07:38 PM

I wish ESS would chime in on the compatibility with their kits.

DylanMckay · 02-03-2012, 08:27 PM

can anyone confirm the website is stating the wrong engine under the m3 order form? I dont want to have the n54 kit come in the mail. Also confirm you need to order both the tune and the meth kit since meth kit does not include the tune I suspect

Dodge2Dub · 02-03-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DylanMckay

can anyone confirm the website is stating the wrong engine under the m3 order form? I dont want to have the n54 kit come in the mail. Also confirm you need to order both the tune and the meth kit since meth kit does not include the tune I suspect

Meth kit does not come with the tune.

In regard to the N54 vs. S65, I'd call Shiv to ensure that you will receive the correct product.

GL!

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