BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board
 
ESS Tuning
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-09-2012, 10:37 AM   #1
Maestro
Captain
 
Drives: 2007 335i Sedan
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia

Posts: 860
iTrader: (0)

Microsoft Patents ‘Avoid Ghetto’ Feature For GPS Devices

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...r-gps-devices/

Quote:
Microsoft has been granted a patent for its “avoid ghetto” feature for GPS devices.

A GPS device is used to find shortcuts and avoid traffic, but Microsoft’s patent states that a route can be plotted for pedestrians to avoid an “unsafe neighborhood or being in an open area that is subject to harsh temperatures.”
I wonder what criteria they use to determine if it is a place you want to avoid, you can not assume all people want to void certain areas. I wonder if they do some sort of user profile first and make suggestion on areas to stay out of. There are place in the deep south that non-rednecks should avoid as well. Just ask the Topgear guys, they almost got shot.

BTW, this feature seems like of racist.
Maestro is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #2
Year's_End
RWD only.
 
Year's_End's Avatar
 
Drives: '08 E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St. Pete, FL

Posts: 12,169
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...r-gps-devices/



I wonder what criteria they use to determine if it is a place you want to avoid, you can not assume all people want to void certain areas. I wonder if they do some sort of user profile first and make suggestion on areas to stay out of. There are place in the deep south that non-rednecks should avoid as well. Just ask the Topgear guys, they almost got shot.

BTW, this feature seems like of racist.
Quote:
the technology uses the latest crime statistics and weather data and includes them when calculating a route
Yeah, so racist.
__________________
E92 335i: Space Grey|Coral Red|Aluminum Trim

Future Ride: 2015 Mustang GT Premium |Guard|401A|PP|Recaros|6MT
Year's_End is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:08 AM   #3
PINeely
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2009 E90 N54
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jackson, MS

Posts: 1,542
iTrader: (0)

The GPS likely uses crime data to avoid volatile neighborhoods. Not sure how it would classify in such a way as to be racist. I trust questionable black people WAY more than I do questionable white people anyway so it wouldn't work like that.
__________________
PINeely is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:12 AM   #4
Crimson92
Smiling Politely
 
Crimson92's Avatar
 
Drives: Like a boss
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Whales Vagina

Posts: 28,613
iTrader: (3)

cool, my bmw and my iphone seem to like to take me through the ghetto.
__________________
Quote:
Some people are like slinkies...not really good for much but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs"
Crimson92 is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:16 AM   #5
Chewy734
Major General
 
Drives: 2006 BMW 330i ZPP, ZSP
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Posts: 6,740
iTrader: (15)

how does this work if you are surrounded by ghetto?
__________________

Currently for sale: N/A
Chewy734 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:23 AM   #6
Maestro
Captain
 
Drives: 2007 335i Sedan
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia

Posts: 860
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy734 View Post
how does this work if you are surrounded by ghetto?

yeah I went to college in Philly in the 80's and it was a few good areas surround by bad, so you had no choice. However, when I lived in San Jose CA it would have been nice to avoid East Palo Alto, with all the drugs wars going on there in the early 90's
Maestro is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:24 AM   #7
immiketoo
Colonel
 
immiketoo's Avatar
 
Drives: Smoothly
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 2,873
iTrader: (0)

"how does this work if you are surrounded by ghetto?"


You have to stay inside all day and eat cheetos.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by double eagle View Post
Thickness feels good to me and my hands aren't that big.
immiketoo is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 11:52 AM   #8
bolinp78
G35 convertee
 
bolinp78's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 335i (AW)
Join Date: May 2008
Location: .

Posts: 1,005
iTrader: (1)

It uses crime data. If a neighborhood full of white people is rated as a high crime area, then it will avoid in the same manner as if the neighborhood was predominately black.
__________________
bolinp78 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 12:31 PM   #9
GregTheStig
derp
 
GregTheStig's Avatar
 
Drives: a Tuk Tuk
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 1,202
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2007 328i  [0.00]
I wouldn't call that racist if it uses crime data from all communities. "Ghetto" is a science/anthropology term that has meaning.

Awesome feature btw
__________________
GregTheStig is offline   Armenia
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 01:18 PM   #10
Q4P
Colonel
 
Q4P's Avatar
 
Drives: Too Much
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: World

Posts: 2,296
iTrader: (0)

What if you want to go the ghetto? Is there an "avoid safe roads" option like the avoid toll roads option in some Garmin units?
__________________
2jZ + RB26 + 4G63 + LS9 + N54 =
Q4P is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 02:56 PM   #11
fokus45
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: little blue dune buggy
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WY

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Questforpower View Post
What if you want to go the ghetto? Is there an "avoid safe roads" option like the avoid toll roads option in some Garmin units?
Since you are in Florida, you could visit the pork and beans area of Miami. They are always on the first 48.
fokus45 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 03:57 PM   #12
Q4P
Colonel
 
Q4P's Avatar
 
Drives: Too Much
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: World

Posts: 2,296
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fokus45 View Post
Since you are in Florida, you could visit the pork and beans area of Miami. They are always on the first 48.
Been there done that... great show by the way.

Common sense rules apply in every bad neighborhood. If you are not looking for trouble; rarely will it find you.
__________________
2jZ + RB26 + 4G63 + LS9 + N54 =
Q4P is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 04:48 PM   #13
Chewy734
Major General
 
Drives: 2006 BMW 330i ZPP, ZSP
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Posts: 6,740
iTrader: (15)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Questforpower View Post
Common sense rules apply in every bad neighborhood. If you are not looking for trouble; rarely will it find you.
my personal experiences would say that is far from the truth.
__________________

Currently for sale: N/A
Chewy734 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #14
Q4P
Colonel
 
Q4P's Avatar
 
Drives: Too Much
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: World

Posts: 2,296
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy734 View Post
my personal experiences would say that is far from the truth.
Following common sense is key;

1. Don't bring attention to yourself.
2. Don't look sketchy or look like you're up to no good.
3. Do not flaunt wealth (driving an M3 through the hood in this case is a bad idea).
4. Don't associate with anyone that appears sketchy or looks like a drug dealer.
5. Act calm, cool and collected.
6. Don't purposely go to crime infested areas if you don't need to. Most of the time these areas / locations are obvious. (areas on the outskirts of downtowns, run down downtown areas and the like.)

I don't know why in about 90% of situations anyone would bother you if you follow those rules... Gangbangs, muggings and drivebys aren't exactly a daily occurrence. I've driven through some pretty rough areas at night in Miami and Orlando and was never bothered. Not that I recommend either but it's not difficult to figure out in any city; where these areas might be.
__________________
2jZ + RB26 + 4G63 + LS9 + N54 =
Q4P is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 05:06 PM   #15
Express
Major General
 
Express's Avatar
 
Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

Posts: 8,701
iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [4.15]
i guess i cant use NAV to go to the quick stop anymore for some newports and purple drank.


AND I CANT GO VISIT LOPE?????? WTF
Express is offline   Israel
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 05:15 PM   #16
The Ghost of Tom Joad
Banned
 
Drives: B744
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Up In The Air

Posts: 50
iTrader: (0)

So if you're driving across the country, does it route you completely around Ohio and Michigan?
The Ghost of Tom Joad is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 05:26 PM   #17
Alpine Whiteboy
Jerry's Fault...
 
Alpine Whiteboy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 535xi M-Sport SGM
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Queens, N.Y.

Posts: 9,259
iTrader: (1)

Guess nobody will ever make it to MY house...
__________________
Boopie*Motorwerks

Martino*Auto*Concepts
Alpine Whiteboy is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 05:51 PM   #18
lopealle
Resident Black Guy
 
lopealle's Avatar
 
Drives: Lion
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Federal Way, WA

Posts: 2,245
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2006 M5  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by PINeely View Post
The GPS likely uses crime data to avoid volatile neighborhoods. Not sure how it would classify in such a way as to be racist. I trust questionable black people WAY more than I do questionable white people anyway so it wouldn't work like that.
Yea white people are pretty crazy lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by immiketoo View Post
"how does this work if you are surrounded by ghetto?"


You have to stay inside all day and eat cheetos.
Lets not forget grape or orange soda. Or as i call it. Purple or eeerrnge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Questforpower View Post
Following common sense is key;

1. Don't bring attention to yourself.
2. Don't look sketchy or look like you're up to no good.
3. Do not flaunt wealth (driving an M3 through the hood in this case is a bad idea).
4. Don't associate with anyone that appears sketchy or looks like a drug dealer.
5. Act calm, cool and collected.
6. Don't purposely go to crime infested areas if you don't need to. Most of the time these areas / locations are obvious. (areas on the outskirts of downtowns, run down downtown areas and the like.)

I don't know why in about 90% of situations anyone would bother you if you follow those rules... Gangbangs, muggings and drivebys aren't exactly a daily occurrence. I've driven through some pretty rough areas at night in Miami and Orlando and was never bothered. Not that I recommend either but it's not difficult to figure out in any city; where these areas might be.
I would drive Bentley throught the hood and have no problems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by express705 View Post
i guess i cant use NAV to go to the quick stop anymore for some newports and purple drank.


AND I CANT GO VISIT LOPE?????? WTF
I odnt live there anymore. I live in a Asian community where they only like my car and not me
lopealle is offline   Zimbabwe
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 06:15 PM   #19
Maestro
Captain
 
Drives: 2007 335i Sedan
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia

Posts: 860
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Questforpower View Post
Following common sense is key;

1. Don't bring attention to yourself.
2. Don't look sketchy or look like you're up to no good.
3. Do not flaunt wealth (driving an M3 through the hood in this case is a bad idea).
4. Don't associate with anyone that appears sketchy or looks like a drug dealer.
5. Act calm, cool and collected.
6. Don't purposely go to crime infested areas if you don't need to. Most of the time these areas / locations are obvious. (areas on the outskirts of downtowns, run down downtown areas and the like.)

I don't know why in about 90% of situations anyone would bother you if you follow those rules... Gangbangs, muggings and drivebys aren't exactly a daily occurrence. I've driven through some pretty rough areas at night in Miami and Orlando and was never bothered. Not that I recommend either but it's not difficult to figure out in any city; where these areas might be.
I tell you I usually have no problems at night, since most criminals are not watching you at night since they really can not tell who you are. My experience is been board day light, I have been in a few shady areas during the day and got some serious bad looks, and been followed once. Once in Philly I was stopped at a Light and watch two guys steal wheels and tires off a park car while everyone watched. Another time was driving through Brooklyn on the express way and car broke down in front of me and they were just able to get the car off the road on to a shoulder. Came back past the car a few hours later it is was partially stripped. I guess they did not get the tow truck there in time.

Last edited by Maestro; 01-10-2012 at 11:36 AM.
Maestro is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-09-2012, 08:43 PM   #20
Rotorocious
Major
 
Rotorocious's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida

Posts: 1,448
iTrader: (3)

Awesome. Back when the GTR first came out, I got to take one to Jacksonville for some work. On the way back it routed me through the ghetto. Thanks bro.


Statistics aren't racist
Rotorocious is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-10-2012, 08:29 PM   #21
Epacy2
Major
 
Drives: M3/X5
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: KC

Posts: 1,255
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
2008 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Year's_End View Post
Yeah, so racist.
That's not racist. It's called facts.
__________________
Epacy2 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-11-2012, 02:34 AM   #22
Year's_End
RWD only.
 
Year's_End's Avatar
 
Drives: '08 E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St. Pete, FL

Posts: 12,169
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epacy2 View Post
That's not racist. It's called facts.
not sure if serious

or playing along with my initial sarcasm
__________________
E92 335i: Space Grey|Coral Red|Aluminum Trim

Future Ride: 2015 Mustang GT Premium |Guard|401A|PP|Recaros|6MT
Year's_End is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST