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      12-29-2011, 10:11 AM   #45
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Which bar did you go with? I'm anxious to see how it behaves at 30-50mph speeds with real tires on it, the balance will definitely change and it will probably get significantly tighter. 295/315 seems like just as much stagger as stock but it's actually about 15% less difference between front and rear and 50% less diameter difference so I'm hoping the balance change isn't too drastic, hopefully I can tune around that with alignment because I don't think I want to give up any bar rate. We'll see. Just happy I didn't totally screw up the car at this point
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      12-30-2011, 03:23 AM   #46
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The RD -- and I've been running in third hole, too. Adjustable links are on order. Also, like you, I have yet to agressively pursue front camber. Sounds like we are on the same glidepath. I'll probably start with a square tire set-up, so we may be able to share notes once the action begins.

First dryish-warmish events for us will start in mid-March.

Lol, I know what you mean about not wanting to screw things up -- a lot of really smart engineers made our car possible.
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When does the season start for everyone?

I get to start on January 1st (isn't it nice to live on the warm west coast!!!) And will be running in ASP in Marina.
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      12-30-2011, 08:46 AM   #48
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My first event is April 1, on a lot which hasn't been used for anything but growing weeds in over 18 months. Should be hilariously bad.
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My first event is April 1, on a lot which hasn't been used for anything but growing weeds in over 18 months. Should be hilariously bad.
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      12-30-2011, 01:27 PM   #50
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I'm not leaving STL for anything except blahvull and peru, no time. Tough sell to get a club racer to very far to autocross when there are 5 racetracks within 5 hours of STL. Peru and Blahvull are still likely candidates though.

Watch this thread for a post about me in Memphis soon, usually right after I say I'm not going to do something is when I go ahead and do it...
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Obviously this was just a test fit and I didn't get them hot enough or corner hard enough to really compress the suspension, but I'm pretty confident the 295's and 315's fit at stock offsets without rubbing as there were zero marks anywhere on the tires or fender liners after the test drive. There might even be physical room for 335's on the back and 315's on the front with the right offsets, whether they'd play nice with the wheel turned and the suspension compressed is another thing. The fronts barely clear the fender liner in the back, but the 315's are only 0.3" taller so it *might* work. Not going to bother finding out until I run out of 295's. In case anyone wants to replicate the setup, this is it:

Front:
TR Motorsport MT1 18x8.5 ET44 and 15mm spacers
295/30-18 Hoosier A6

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TR Motorsport MT1 18x9.5 ET35 and 12.5mm spacers
315/30-18 Hoosier A6

On the front I wouldn't go bigger numerically than ET32 as you're really close to the strut on the inside. On the rear there's plenty of room to the inside but not much more room to the outside. The tires are almost flush with the fender (hellaflush y0!) but when the suspension compresses they tuck in and don't hit anything. They're short which helps. See shots for comparisons of the 295's and 315's to a 275/40-18 PS2 mounted on a stock rear wheel.

No surprise, this car is going to eat front tires. At 35psi without even getting them warm I was past the second TWI nubbin on the fronts. More bar and nitrogen lift might help a little, it's not set on full stiff yet and still on stock shocks. Will know more after it's driven in anger. Good thing is it at least gets the inside of the fronts warm. There's still a faint glimmer of hope that it won't suck.

Really scoots out of corners in 2nd with these on even when cold, don't think I'll need to worry about putting power down.

Still working out details on dampers. Got one quote back that was a little high, one company that is making a T2 setup but isn't done yet, and one that I'm providing some dimensions to.
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Good stuff.

I got my Hoosiers in and mounted the other day. Excite to see it run. I may come up for the march 15 event.
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      01-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #53
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Did you mean april 15 in STL at family arena? That's a decent lot, I hope it isn't too sandy from the winter
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Yes, I read it wrong. April. Pm me if you are going to go.
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      03-05-2012, 10:11 AM   #55
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So just an interesting "real life with aftermarket parts" note:

The RDSport bar uses some kind of poly bushings instead of a bushing/bearing hybrid like the OEM setup. The bar started to make some noise after about 2k miles, but only when both wheels were moving in concert, so it was rare, because that's the only time the bar really moves in the bushings to any great degree. I lubed the bushings before installing but they needed another squirt, so I got some of my trusty White Lightning lithium bike chain grease and hosed it down and all is well. Probably needs more frequent maintenance than the stock bits to stay quiet, no surprise there.

I put the bar on full stiff with putting the PS2's back on after our "winter" and it definitely makes the car understeer more at higher speeds (though like before the car is much more responsive to throttle adjustments) but it's ridiculous in transitions now, and the balance is still really good in 2nd gear, you can do all of your steering with the throttle but it's less likely to get into a huge power oversteer than with the stock bar.

Still no dampers. MCS is still developing a setup and I have not pulled the trigger yet on JRZ's because I don't particularly want to cannibalize my spare stock struts for their mounts, but the JRZ's are still an option. I have one other iron in the fire and it might end up being the way I go but it's unproven too. Blazing saddles...er...trails

I also did a little comparison against the main competitors in AS and the S2000 in BS. The M3 has a big power/weight advantage over all of them, and is about 8% behind everybody on tire/weight, middle of the road on width, and severely lacking in CG against everything but the 1M. I'm thinking this car belongs in the CS range based on performance potential on most courses, but at a fast open course it could be the car even in AS, though probably not even then with the 1M in the mix. FS looks like a bit of a stretch considering the width, CG, and IRS. But I'm still going to write the letter Either way I'm going in with the assumption that if I can't get it done, it's a driver problem.

Also of note, the E9x M3 was recently classed in ASP. So no ESP not-otherwise-classed V8 sedan cherry picking anymore...
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An interesting class-by-class comparison, Rich. Basically, the more 'speed maintenance' the course, the weaker we would be, I think. Good luck with the FS plea.

BTW, you can "thank" me for the ASP pigeon-holing, as I wrote a letter asking for clarification. Sorely tempted as I was to go for ESP, I didn't want a rude, expensive surprise half a season and $10k down the road, if you get my meaning.
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At least it's the "new" ASP against the boost buggies and the Skystices and whatnot now that Super Street Prepared has been created for the Corvettes and such. Still an uphill battle but at least ASP in a BMW isn't bringing a knife to a nuke fight anymore. More like a rocket fight.

Too bad, I bet this thing would be a riot with a full-tilt SP setup. Probably ~3250 lbs with a gallon of gas in it, some Moton triples, front flares, 18xwide wheels with 315's or 335's all around, about 450hp with the cats deleted...Oh well. Somebody dumber than me (like future me) will have to find out.
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First event is this weekend. Here's hoping I don't get raw-timed by H-stock

Also, MCS 2-way dampers are on order. Should have them in my hands by early May. Where's our "pile of cash on fire" smilie?
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Also, MCS 2-way dampers are on order. Should have them in my hands by early May. Where's our "pile of cash on fire" smilie?
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Our first event is this weekend, too. Supposed to be 32 degrees, mixed snow and rain. Think I'll detail my engine instead.
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Damn you guys have gotten hammered this winter! We're expecting a light breeze, 80 degrees, and a few fluffy clouds. Normally our first road race of the year in march is a sleet/rain event but we moved it to May this year

I'll try to post video to make you feel better/envious. I've got a suction mount and a crappy old digital camera that actually works pretty well for this kind of stuff. I have limited options to get a good angle so I'm just going to stick it on the windshield inside the car so my inputs won't be visible (nobody wants to see how the sausage is made anyway, when I 'm lucky enough to win, I win ugly)

I might need to break down and finally get a GoPro
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LOL -- first time I've heard of sausage-making associated with driving style.

I look forward to the day's account. I'll try to remember to employ my Go-Pro for sharing, if I make it out there.
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Based on the results can we assume you are happy with how the car performed?
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55 4 stu 66 Mike Kenney 2005 BMW M3 43.678 *0.841 36.733 0.046 3.233
56 3 ds 31 Alexandre Ionin 2008 BMW 335i Conv. 44.774 *0.821 36.759 0.026 3.259
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67 5 stx 78 William Schnardthorst 2004 Mazda RX8 GT 45.076 *0.822 37.052 0.002 3.552
68 4 gs 309 Alexander Guerra 2009 Honda Civic Si 45.546 *0.814 37.074 0.022 3.574
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106 10 tds 37 Nov steven puster bmw 323 48.411 *0.821 39.745 0.041 6.245
107 2 fsp 82 Nov conner alexander ford escort zx2 47.450 *0.838 39.763 0.018 6.263
108 2 bs 84 Jeffrey Craig 1984 Chevrolet Corvette 47.176 *0.843 39.769 0.006 6.269
109 1 xp 91 Bill Luton 1989 Isuzu I-Mark RS 44.313 *0.898 39.793 0.024 6.293
110 3 stc 32 franco sant-maria hyundai tiburon 03 48.701 *0.820 39.934 0.141 6.434
111 11 tas 26 Nov Wade Walters 07 Chevy Corvette 47.397 *0.844 40.003 0.069 6.503
112 4 ssm 55 Eric Hauquitz 1975 Chevrolet Corvette 45.543 *0.879 40.032 0.029 6.532
113 4 stc 199 Nov greg barren dodge shadow 88 48.846 *0.820 40.053 0.021 6.553
114 12 tbs 35 Nov arjun dhanik honda s2000 08 47.659 *0.843 40.176 0.123 6.676
115 13 tcs 24 Alex Narconis 1999 Mazda Miata 48.263 *0.833 40.203 0.027 6.703
116 1 esl 50 kaylee hanson 48.595 *0.828 40.236 0.033 6.736
117 5 stc 72 Nov harden ervin alfa 49.104 *0.820 40.265 0.029 6.765
118 14 ths 47 Curtis Schnettgoecke 98 Saturn SC2 50.414 *0.799 40.280 0.015 6.780
119 1 stxl 98 Maria Morris 05 Audi TT 49.048 *0.822 40.317 0.037 6.817
120 11 stu 88 Nov charles herres infinity g37 47.995 *0.841 40.363 0.046 6.863
121 3 stf 88 Nov richard bradford acura rsx 06 50.845 *0.794 40.370 0.007 6.870
122 6 ss 62 Nov keith lebbing lotus elise 05 47.130 *0.858 40.437 0.067 6.937
123 3 bs 21 Doug Payne 2007 Ford Shebly GT 500 48.099 *0.843 40.547 0.110 7.047
124 12 stx 50 Thomas Camarda 2012 Honda Civic Si 49.337 *0.822 40.555 0.008 7.055
125 3 sm 25 Dave Young 2002 Chevrolet Cavalier 46.902 *0.866 40.617 0.062 7.117
126 12 stu 22 Nov mike daily dodge caliber srt4 48.342 *0.841 40.655 0.038 7.155
127 5 ssm 155 Nov aron hauquitz corvette 75 46.377 *0.879 40.765 0.110 7.265
128 13 stx 23 brodrick ellis ford mustang 10 49.697 *0.822 40.850 0.085 7.350
129 15 tasp 129 Nov Robert Munroe 2011 Subaru STI 47.518 *0.863 41.008 0.158 7.508
130 1 dml 87 Susan Anderson 1962 Lotus Super 7 44.837 *0.915 41.025 0.017 7.525
131 6 ssm 88 Josh Harper 1995 Mazda Miata 46.703 *0.879 41.051 0.026 7.551
132 8 es 33 Eric Bischof 1978 Datsun 280z 49.692 *0.828 41.145 0.094 7.645
133 7 ss 60 Ron Trimmer 2002 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 48.129 *0.858 41.294 0.149 7.794
134 16 tsm 25 Robert Simons 06 Ford Mustang 47.688 *0.866 41.297 0.003 7.797
135 17 tes 27 Benjamin Lesire 95 Mazda Miata 50.118 *0.828 41.497 0.200 7.997
136 18 tgs 77 Greg Hartrum 1969 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 50.998 *0.814 41.512 0.015 8.012
137 4 sm 601 Nov brian simmons mitsubishi lancer evo 47.975 *0.866 41.546 0.034 8.046
138 5 sm 66 Nov richard coldiron toyota cellica 47.985 *0.866 41.555 0.009 8.055
139 7 ssm 881 Charles McBride 05 Mazda Miata 47.603 *0.879 41.843 0.288 8.343
140 19 tfs 32 Scot Westermayer 2006 Ford Mustang 50.773 *0.825 41.887 0.044 8.387
141 20 ths 55 Nov brian loethen 05 Acura TSX 52.502 *0.799 41.949 0.062 8.449
142 4 bs 184 Jerry Craig 1984 Chevrolet Corvette 49.918 *0.843 42.080 0.131 8.580
143 21 tesp 62 Richard Schumacher 02 Pontiac TransAm 49.832 *0.848 42.257 0.177 8.757
144 14 stx 27 Stephanie Cline 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 52.217 *0.822 42.922 0.665 9.422
145 6 stc 68 Nov Sandra Young 1998 Ford ZX2 52.508 *0.820 43.056 0.134 9.556
146 1 bsp 24 Patrick Sherman 05 Nissan 350Z 50.333 *0.859 43.236 0.180 9.736
147 2 smf 89 Nov randy dawson mazda 6 51.454 *0.852 43.838 0.602 10.338
148 2 xp 202 nick meyer ford mustang 95 49.354 *0.898 44.319 0.481 10.819
149 6 gs 95 Nov ian maloney ford mustang 95 54.760 *0.814 44.574 0.255 11.074
150 22 tsm 60 Kyle Adams 2000 Chevrolet S-10 51.641 *0.866 44.721 0.147 11.221
151 15 stx 133 Spenser Davies 2001 Ford Mustang GT 54.942 *0.822 45.162 0.441 11.662
152 3 smf 33 Nov david gurley honda prelude 98 53.389 *0.852 45.487 0.325 11.987
153 8 ss 21 Nov Joseph Playford 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 64.692 *0.858 55.505 10.018 22.005
154 23 tcs 45 Nov william miller mazda rx-7 67.395 *0.833 56.140 0.635 22.640
155 1 rfn 16 Carla Russo 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 40.063 *4.000 160.252 104.112 126.752
156 2 rfn 89 Matt Osmoe 2003 Honda S2000 44.035 *4.000 176.140 15.888 142.640
157 3 rfn 68 mike sheppard subaru forester 04 45.550 *4.000 182.200 6.060 148.700
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      04-02-2012, 07:40 AM   #65
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Holy crap! This car is AMAZING on an autocross course. I've driven lots of cool stuff but I had no idea this would be tied with an SS Z06 for my favorite. No idea at all. If the ~3500lb E90 M3 is this awesome on an autocross course I can't imagine how much fun a 1M must be! No issues at all with getting the car to rotate, it definitely wants to push steady-state but at autocross speeds you just ease into the gas and it rotates. So controllable and predictable, and no problems at all digging up out of slow corners, though of course there's no such thing as too much power. I'm afraid to screw it up with the shocks I have on order now, but I guess there's no going back! It would have been pushy as hell on concrete though, so I think the dampers would be necessary for a nationally competitive effort. From a balance and stability standpoint the car was pretty spot-on, you could really toss it and get right on the throttle without causing a tank-slapper. Definitely recommend getting a front swaybar for this car if you're autocrossing one with any regularity, I'm pretty sure I would have looped it more than once with the stock bar on it.

Conditions were 90 degrees ambient, 110 degree surface temps, asphalt, and a pretty open course with two somewhat tight elements. You'll see from the video, but there were places where I got down to 3500 rpm in 2nd and places where I was all over the limiter in 2nd (68-69mph!)

I ended up at 33psi rear and 37psi front. I also starting spraying the fronts after run 2 and all 4 after run 3. Next event I'm going to try lower pressures in the rear, the fronts are rolling over almost to the treadwear lettering (same wear you'll see on an FS Mustang's 295's) but I think that's only happening when I overdrive a corner, it really didn't hurt them THAT bad. No shelf forming on the shoulder. The rears look like they're going to be good for a long while. No rubbing, AT ALL with this wheel/tire setup. The thing looks like a damn rollerskate. I ran at 1/4 tank and there were no fuel starvation issues, but I hesitate to and probably won't go lower than that. If I find the limit I find it, but I'd rather not ask the motor to deal with an interuption in fuel pressure on top of all the other punishment

I ran third heat so I had pretty good conditions, first heat had the honor of autocrossing on the surface for the first time in more than 18 months so it was very gravelly and I think next event will be a little more representative of the car's potential against some of the more dangerous index people like Ancel Henry in his Shelby GT in FS, who is one of my barometers for this season and ran 1st heat. But against the people in 3rd heat, several of whom were consistently in the top 5 last season, It's looking good.

I got video of my inaugural run (my fastest raw time but it was dirty) and my last run (a tenth off the winning time, borked a couple slaloms, lots of opportunities for improvement, the car is faster than me). I probably won't get it up on my Youtube channel for a couple days. Look up YuppieRacer, there are a couple Spec Miata videos right now. I'll post it embedded here too when I get it done

By the way, I was carrying a ~160lb passenger for my fastest run...need to ballast the car on the right side I guess
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      04-02-2012, 07:54 AM   #66
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Nice build and write up. I have been considering building my e92 into an AS car. Currently running my e46 M3 in the failed class of STU (aka lying cheating boost buggies). I ran it in BSP yesterday in TX Region, too not bad.

The point about the e92 and even the e46 being mis-classed is getting easier to make. For 2012 Ford has a Track Pack for the 5.0 Mustang. This pack gives it a Torsen, Brembos, 3.73 diff, and 19" wheels. While the 3.31 and 18" wheels would be better it is the Torsen that will really help. How much different is the 5.0 with the track pack from the e9x M3?

I agree with ESP for the e9x and e46 M3.
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