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      03-02-2011, 10:44 PM   #45
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Ha! I guess I never considered that the pad sensor might MELT. I'm gonna zip tie them back next time for sure. Also, I could have sworn that I had a sensor on all four sides, but the more posts I read the more I'm thinking that the driver's rear was never there in the first place.
You're right, there are only 3 sensors on our cars so you're missing the missing sensor. Definatly not a warranty issue.
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      03-03-2011, 02:25 AM   #46
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hi Marcel!!!

where i can find Endless pads for M3 in the web?

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      12-15-2011, 11:50 PM   #47
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anyone here try pads designed for street and light track use? im looking for something thats good for both. im still new to the track so i dont need a track-dedicated setup
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      12-16-2011, 12:38 AM   #48
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anyone here try pads designed for street and light track use? im looking for something thats good for both. im still new to the track so i dont need a track-dedicated setup
Use the stock pads. You will know when it is time to start swapping pads.
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      12-16-2011, 03:10 AM   #49
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I've raced with pfc01's as well as cobalt xr1/xr3's and they are both awesome compounds.
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      12-16-2011, 05:46 AM   #50
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anyone here try pads designed for street and light track use? im looking for something thats good for both. im still new to the track so i dont need a track-dedicated setup
I would recommend Stoptech Street Performance. $200 for both axles, and they have significantly better high temp performance than stock without being noisy, dusty, or grabby on the street. Great pad. This is what ships with the Stoptech big brake kits, and lots of folks have found they work very well for dual duty in that application.

My experience is based on using them on a 2011 e92 for a track day at Roebling Road Raceway. This track is not terribly hard on brakes, but I wasn't taking it easy on them either. I have 20+ track days at Roebling (70+ total) and was keeping up fine in the Solo/Instructor group without going easy on my braking points. No fade, no weird deposits on the rotors, and no excessive pad wear.
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      12-17-2011, 01:48 AM   #51
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I would recommend Stoptech Street Performance. $200 for both axles, and they have significantly better high temp performance than stock without being noisy, dusty, or grabby on the street. Great pad. This is what ships with the Stoptech big brake kits, and lots of folks have found they work very well for dual duty in that application.
Do you know what the MOT (max operating temp) for these are?
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      12-17-2011, 07:04 AM   #52
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The MOT info was hard to find, as Stoptech (or Centric who makes the pads for Stoptech) apparently doesn't widely publish the data, and just makes claims of a "high maximum operating temperature" This is a quote from another forum from a thread about the Stoptech Street Performance pads:

"So i spoke to stoptech about the pads, they are apparently good up to 1300F, which is higher than even some of the less aggressive race pads, and near the 1350 of the XP8, the 1400 of the Hawk HT-10."
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      12-17-2011, 11:15 AM   #53
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are the ferodo ds2500s a good option to use as dual duty? any major drawbacks?
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The MOT info was hard to find, as Stoptech (or Centric who makes the pads for Stoptech) apparently doesn't widely publish the data, and just makes claims of a "high maximum operating temperature" This is a quote from another forum from a thread about the Stoptech Street Performance pads:

"So i spoke to stoptech about the pads, they are apparently good up to 1300F, which is higher than even some of the less aggressive race pads, and near the 1350 of the XP8, the 1400 of the Hawk HT-10."
That is impressive assuming they work well on the street (no noise, low temp bite). Stocks pads are about 1000F and a top end race pad is 1600.
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      12-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #55
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That is impressive assuming they work well on the street (no noise, low temp bite). Stocks pads are about 1000F and a top end race pad is 1600.
They were almost impossible to tell from stock pads on the street. No more dust, and never a hint of squealing. They were actually a little less grabby at low speeds, which made it easier to modulate the brakes in parking lots, my garage, etc. Great initial bite however, even on stone cold rotors/pads in the winter. With such a wide temp range, and perfect street manners (and cheap as crap at $200 for the full set!) I don't know why more folks aren't talking about them. On the e92 it isn't such a big deal, as the stock pads are so small you really need a full out race pad to even have a chance with the stock brakes on a track that is medium or hard on brakes if you are past the beginner stages of DE's, but with big brake kits or other cars with much bigger calipers, etc. I figure folks would be more excited about this pad. Guess it takes a long time to get a bite into the market. It amazes me people would still buy the Hawk HP+, which is significantly worse on both the street and the track.
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are the ferodo ds2500s a good option to use as dual duty? any major drawbacks?
Excellent pad and I will be using these next up. They work best when hot so initial bite for the street is not too good, but no issues really

On track they are absolutely superb and I used them on my previous car for over 20 track days with no fade whatsoever. They love to be worked hard and are at their best when hot.
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      12-17-2011, 08:58 PM   #57
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Sounds good. I have a set but haven't put them on yet.
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      03-13-2012, 05:06 PM   #58
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The stock m3 pads max operating temp is 1000F? Going by this figure i need something in the 1500 or above since my stocks were faded and burnt after my first track event.
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i have my ds2500s in and will report back after this next couple weekends as i have 2 track days planned.
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i have my ds2500s in and will report back after this next couple weekends as i have 2 track days planned.
Love to hear the feedback.

Make sure you propery bed them in for best results!
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Love to hear the feedback.

Make sure you propery bed them in for best results!
i already bedded in the fronts and just put the rears in tonight. funny i never knew we only had 3 sensors i would have been like wtf if i went to do it and didnt know beforehand.
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hey harold update on those pads. like em a lot. ran Pacific Raceways today. day was wet to start so hard to tell but dried out by the end and had the feeling that the harded i used my brakes the better they got. i was braking later and harder which is nice.
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Are the pads different for ZCP and non-ZCP cars? How are the stock pads like on the track? I'm just going to initially track the car once full stock and see how it feels.
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Question for those who use PFC-01 pads. Is it true they dont need to be bedded? How do you like them on the track and how many track days can you expect out of them?
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Question for those who use PFC-01 pads. Is it true they dont need to be bedded? How do you like them on the track and how many track days can you expect out of them?
Yes it's true. They work better after they have been heated up, but don't need extensive bedding like old school pads. I am actually about to sell a set of front and rear PFC01's with probably 70% life and a new set of fronts I had as a spare (bought bbk and don't need them). PM me if you want dibs before I post them to FS.

Plug aside, don't run street pads on track. Halfway pads suck too imo. Track pads are for the track and street pads are for the street. PFC 01 or 06 have always worked great for me on various cars.
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Thanks. I would get it from you but not sure yet which way i am going with my set up. The car is stock right now and i am trying to learn more about track set ut.
My track money goes to 135i right now, which is a completely different car, but i am going to track m3 as well soon
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