What size tires can you run on zcp wheels. - Page 3

Mahzari · 12-09-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VVG

Remember that bigger tires also equals more weight, more noise, more rolling resistance. Unless you are supercharging, the stock set-up is just fine. It would have been very easy for BMW to put different sized tires on the stock car but they didn't. There is a reason for this.

If you are supercharging, 275/30 & 295/30 is a great combo, other wise the stock tire size and maybe up to 255/35 & 275/35 is optimal.... No extra weight, no extra noise, a touch more sidewall for added comfort and no fitment issues whatsoever under any circumstances.

Just because you can fit bigger tires, doesn't mean you should. Tires that get too big for their intended purpose also start to look a little ricey.

BMW wants to keep as little stock of tires as possible, which is why the Forged 19s and the ZCP rims have the same size tires. If I had ZCP, I would go with 265/285 on PSSs because it does not rub and keeps the stock stagger while increasing the contact patches by a good amount

hl0m4n · 12-13-2011, 03:28 PM

i need help choosing the right tire size on zcp rims myself for e92 with no spacers.

original tire size is:
F: 245/35
R: 265/35

should i go 255/275 or 255/295? 35 or 30 aspect ratio?

looking for closest oem feel so the dsc doesn't get confused...

JAdamz · 12-13-2011, 08:11 PM

255/35 and 275/35 is a common, tried and true upgrade.

If you want to go to 295s, and if you want to keep the original stagger of a 20mm width difference, you would have to do 275/30 and 295/30. Your stated 255/295 combo may yield increased understeer, though I don't know if anybody has actually tried that combination to verify!

Dave07997S · 12-13-2011, 08:47 PM

You can also once again go the GTS sizes of 255/35/19 and 285/30/19...

Dave

Dave07997S · 12-13-2011, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahzari

BMW wants to keep as little stock of tires as possible, which is why the Forged 19s and the ZCP rims have the same size tires. If I had ZCP, I would go with 265/285 on PSSs because it does not rub and keeps the stock stagger while increasing the contact patches by a good amount

If only they made a 285/30/19 with the PSSs, I would be all over it.

Dave

M3SQRD · 12-13-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

If only they made a 285/30/19 with the PSSs, I would be all over it.

Dave

Agreed - I'm hoping come spring the PSS will be available in a 285/30.

Dave07997S · 12-13-2011, 08:55 PM

My DSC with the 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 is just a tad more sensitive, I do mean a tad. I also think the 285/30/19 looks a lot better than the much taller 275/35/19, in my eyes the latter looks like a truck tire.

So much better with the 285/30s

hl0m4n · 12-13-2011, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

You can also once again go the GTS sizes of 255/35/19 and 285/30/19...

Dave

although the gts rim specs are the same, im sure the dsc is calibrated for this tire setup and won't work that well on ours?

has anyone done 265 up front with no spacer? is that the max but really pushing it? downsides?

lastly 30 vs 35 aspect ratio... which setup to use?

help much appreciated guys, thanks

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Dave07997S · 12-14-2011, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

although the gts rim specs are the same, im sure the dsc is calibrated for this tire setup and won't work that well on ours?

has anyone done 265 up front with no spacer? is that the max but really pushing it? downsides?

lastly 30 vs 35 aspect ratio... which setup to use?

help much appreciated guys, thanks

.

Its actually almost a non issue..IMHO.

Dave

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahzari

BMW wants to keep as little stock of tires as possible, which is why the Forged 19s and the ZCP rims have the same size tires. If I had ZCP, I would go with 265/285 on PSSs because it does not rub and keeps the stock stagger while increasing the contact patches by a good amount

Actually this is totally wrong. The contact patch does not get bigger with wider tires of any type or any width, rather the contact patch changes shape and gets wider but not as long-more rectangular as the tire gets wider. That offers advantages in some areas and not in others but common misconception is it "increases" the footprint. Only thing that effects area of contact is PSI and mass of car.

Mahzari · 12-14-2011, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

If only they made a 285/30/19 with the PSSs, I would be all over it.

Dave

Good point. I'm sure soon we'll see it, along with the other missing tire sizes. And personally, I like the look of a good sidewall, which is why I prefer my 18s to the optional 19s

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Originally Posted by Ateam

Actually this is totally wrong. The contact patch does not get bigger with wider tires of any type or any width, rather the contact patch changes shape and gets wider but not as long-more rectangular as the tire gets wider. That offers advantages in some areas and not in others but common misconception is it "increases" the footprint. Only thing that effects area of contact is PSI and mass of car.

You're right, I wasn't thinking. Since the rim width is the same, the area of tiring touching the ground doesn't change, the tire is simply less stretched.

yyoo · 12-14-2011, 01:15 AM

Need advice.

I wanted to put 255/275 AD08s on my zcp wheels for track+DD use, but no one has the 255s in stock. TireRack is saying that it may take up to 2 months to get them.

So, should I run the AD08s in 245/265 instead or get the PSS at 255/275? Any better options?

Track performance is a bit more important to me than DD utility.

yyoo · 12-14-2011, 06:20 PM

I went ahead and ordered the AD08s in the 245/265 sizes rather than the PSS at 255/275 as the AD08s apparently have just as much tread width if not more at the lower sizes than the PSSs.

Endless619 · 12-15-2011, 12:16 AM

I think I found what I was looking for here.

Thanks guys.

FROZN · 11-07-2012, 12:36 AM

Hi my names Rastin and I'm getting supercharged in december and was wondering what tire/size i should get? i have the stock ZCP wheel setup on my m3, which is 19x10 in the rear and 19x9 in the front. the problem is I'm lowered on the KW sleeve kit which is about 1-1.2 inches all around. I was thinking of going 295/30/19 for the rear and maybe a 265 or 275 for the front. What do you recommend?? i currently have spacers on my car and will remove them with the new tires. As of tires my options are Nitto (NTO5), Michelin (PSS), Falken
(RT-615K), Bridgestone (RE-11), and Toyo (R1R). Which would you recommend? Thank you for you response and it is much appreciated!

Sam@ModeCarbon · 11-07-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FROZN

Hi my names Rastin and I'm getting supercharged in december and was wondering what tire/size i should get? i have the stock ZCP wheel setup on my m3, which is 19x10 in the rear and 19x9 in the front. the problem is I'm lowered on the KW sleeve kit which is about 1-1.2 inches all around. I was thinking of going 295/30/19 for the rear and maybe a 265 or 275 for the front. What do you recommend?? i currently have spacers on my car and will remove them with the new tires. As of tires my options are Nitto (NTO5), Michelin (PSS), Falken
(RT-615K), Bridgestone (RE-11), and Toyo (R1R). Which would you recommend? Thank you for you response and it is much appreciated!

Read through the thread my friend all of your questions have been answered!

Dave07997S · 11-09-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FROZN

Hi my names Rastin and I'm getting supercharged in december and was wondering what tire/size i should get? i have the stock ZCP wheel setup on my m3, which is 19x10 in the rear and 19x9 in the front. the problem is I'm lowered on the KW sleeve kit which is about 1-1.2 inches all around. I was thinking of going 295/30/19 for the rear and maybe a 265 or 275 for the front. What do you recommend?? i currently have spacers on my car and will remove them with the new tires. As of tires my options are Nitto (NTO5), Michelin (PSS), Falken
(RT-615K), Bridgestone (RE-11), and Toyo (R1R). Which would you recommend? Thank you for you response and it is much appreciated!

You would probably have to take the NT05s out of the picture. As they don't make M3 friendly sizes I believe.

Dave

Teso · 02-04-2013, 10:36 AM

Anybody running 265/35/19 up front? I'd like to know if it rubs.

AyooooJay · 03-20-2013, 01:34 PM

I know this thread is a bit old by I am planning to go with 285/30/19 on ZCP wheels, H&R Springs and 15mm spacers. Will I have any rubbing issues?

Front will also have 15mm spacers and 255/30/19 tires.

Any insights?

spr · 05-11-2013, 01:15 AM

Why is there no 285/30/19 SS??? I want to mimic GTS sizes dammit and don't want to use shitty tires!

M3Guy · 05-11-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spr

Why is there no 285/30/19 SS??? I want to mimic GTS sizes dammit and don't want to use shitty tires!

That's a good question. I'm having to go 295 for that reason.

12-13-2011, 03:28 PM	#46
hl0m4n Brigadier General Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4,759 iTrader: (35)	i need help choosing the right tire size on zcp rims myself for e92 with no spacers. original tire size is: F: 245/35 R: 265/35 should i go 255/275 or 255/295? 35 or 30 aspect ratio? looking for closest oem feel so the dsc doesn't get confused... __________________ Cars: 07 335i-> 09 328i-> 11 328xi-> 13 M3 Reviews: 335i Supersprint Exhaust, C/F Trim Wrap, Alcantara Boots, VMR V710, Saikou Michi OCC For Sale: Want To Buy: Euro Fog Light Switch

12-13-2011, 08:47 PM	#48
Dave07997S Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 BMW M3 ZCP Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Playa del Rey, CA Posts: 1,975 iTrader: (0)	You can also once again go the GTS sizes of 255/35/19 and 285/30/19... Dave __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk Turner Test Pipes, AFE pulley, Megan Catback/AFE Stg.2. 255/285 tires. Previous Rides: 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk

12-13-2011, 08:55 PM	#51
Dave07997S Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 BMW M3 ZCP Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Playa del Rey, CA Posts: 1,975 iTrader: (0)	My DSC with the 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 is just a tad more sensitive, I do mean a tad. I also think the 285/30/19 looks a lot better than the much taller 275/35/19, in my eyes the latter looks like a truck tire. So much better with the 285/30s __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk Turner Test Pipes, AFE pulley, Megan Catback/AFE Stg.2. 255/285 tires. Previous Rides: 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk

11-07-2012, 12:36 AM	#59
FROZN New Member Drives: 2011 E92 M3 - Frozen Grey Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Laguna Hills Posts: 22 iTrader: (0)	Hi my names Rastin and I'm getting supercharged in december and was wondering what tire/size i should get? i have the stock ZCP wheel setup on my m3, which is 19x10 in the rear and 19x9 in the front. the problem is I'm lowered on the KW sleeve kit which is about 1-1.2 inches all around. I was thinking of going 295/30/19 for the rear and maybe a 265 or 275 for the front. What do you recommend?? i currently have spacers on my car and will remove them with the new tires. As of tires my options are Nitto (NTO5), Michelin (PSS), Falken (RT-615K), Bridgestone (RE-11), and Toyo (R1R). Which would you recommend? Thank you for you response and it is much appreciated! __________________ 2011 E92 ///M3- Frozen Grey 1 of 30, M-DCT, Competition Package, OEM splitters/spoiler, RPi GTM full exhaust system(catless), MS pulleys/intake, HID Angel Eyes 8k...!

03-20-2013, 01:34 PM	#63
AyooooJay M Power Drives: M3 Coupe Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 749 iTrader: (7)	I know this thread is a bit old by I am planning to go with 285/30/19 on ZCP wheels, H&R Springs and 15mm spacers. Will I have any rubbing issues? Front will also have 15mm spacers and 255/30/19 tires. Any insights? __________________ 08' M3 Coupe / Coded / ZCP Wheels / Performance Steering Wheel / CF Mirrors / CF Spoiler / CF GTS 2-Piece Front Lip / MS Air Filter / LED License Plate Lights / Lux Angel Eyes / ACM Exhaust Mod / LCI Tail lights / Matte Black Kidney Grills / IND Reflectors / H&R Springs / MS Spacers

12-13-2011, 08:11 PM	#47
JAdamz M3NTAL Drives: 2011.75 E92 M3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 301 iTrader: (1)	255/35 and 275/35 is a common, tried and true upgrade. If you want to go to 295s, and if you want to keep the original stagger of a 20mm width difference, you would have to do 275/30 and 295/30. Your stated 255/295 combo may yield increased understeer, though I don't know if anybody has actually tried that combination to verify!

12-14-2011, 01:15 AM	#56
yyoo Private First Class Drives: 2011 E90 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: California Posts: 191 iTrader: (0)	Need advice. I wanted to put 255/275 AD08s on my zcp wheels for track+DD use, but no one has the 255s in stock. TireRack is saying that it may take up to 2 months to get them. So, should I run the AD08s in 245/265 instead or get the PSS at 255/275? Any better options? Track performance is a bit more important to me than DD utility.

12-14-2011, 06:20 PM	#57
yyoo Private First Class Drives: 2011 E90 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: California Posts: 191 iTrader: (0)	I went ahead and ordered the AD08s in the 245/265 sizes rather than the PSS at 255/275 as the AD08s apparently have just as much tread width if not more at the lower sizes than the PSSs.

12-15-2011, 12:16 AM	#58
Endless619 DHS Drives: bmw x5, m3, Acura TL Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California/Maine/Oregon Posts: 2,592 iTrader: (11)	I think I found what I was looking for here. Thanks guys.

02-04-2013, 10:36 AM	#62
Teso New Member Drives: '12 M DCT Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Anybody running 265/35/19 up front? I'd like to know if it rubs.

05-11-2013, 01:15 AM	#64
spr Second Lieutenant Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 286 iTrader: (0)	Why is there no 285/30/19 SS??? I want to mimic GTS sizes dammit and don't want to use shitty tires! Last edited by spr; 05-11-2013 at 01:24 AM.

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