Vishnu Proceed and Meth installed - Dyno inside - Page 3

leigh · 12-06-2011, 08:13 PM

I have only tested it on one supercharged car running a g-power intercooled system. But it would work identically on any supercharger, regardless of manufacturer. Just install it and go.

Shiv[/quote]

yeah but how do you know what size injecter and where to put it?

JA///MES · 12-06-2011, 08:18 PM

WOO HOO!!!!! Great to see this after our coversation today Shiv. I didn't know all this had been posted until about an hour ago. Judging from the information this is gonna turn my baby into a BEAST!!!! I can't wait!!!!

Longbow64 · 12-06-2011, 08:24 PM

This is going to be awesome. See you in a couple days.

shiv@vishnu · 12-06-2011, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh

yeah but how do you know what size injecter and where to put it?

We aren't using methanol injection for fuel enrichment so meth nozzle sizing isn't critical. We are using it for cooling and octane enhancement. Also, the DME also runs closed loop fuel under load so it targets the desired AFR regardless of methanol injection volume. This is why we use the same system in boosted and NA applications alike. For those running higher power applications, we can always add a 3rd 1.0mm nozzle which will result in a higher effective octane bump and more cooling (especially useful in non-intercooled SC applications). But this would be overkill in anything less than 500whp IMHO.

leigh · 12-06-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We aren't using methanol injection for fuel enrichment so meth nozzle sizing isn't critical. We are using it for cooling and octane enhancement. Also, the DME also runs closed loop fuel under load so it targets the desired AFR regardless of methanol injection volume. This is why we use the same system in boosted and NA applications alike. For those running higher power applications, we can always add a 3rd 1.0mm nozzle which will result in a higher effective octane bump and more cooling (especially useful in non-intercooled SC applications). But this would be overkill in anything less than 500whp IMHO.

will its a 650 kit so i hope it would make bout 540whp but how will the ess tune go with this?

Ateam · 12-06-2011, 09:53 PM

Could you post a DIY for all of us to guage whether we can hack it or not by ourselves! Amateur hour for all of us wannabe mechanics

m33 · 12-07-2011, 10:01 AM

I would ask ESS if I were you ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We aren't using methanol injection for fuel enrichment so meth nozzle sizing isn't critical. We are using it for cooling and octane enhancement. Also, the DME also runs closed loop fuel under load so it targets the desired AFR regardless of methanol injection volume. This is why we use the same system in boosted and NA applications alike. For those running higher power applications, we can always add a 3rd 1.0mm nozzle which will result in a higher effective octane bump and more cooling (especially useful in non-intercooled SC applications). But this would be overkill in anything less than 500whp IMHO.

will its a 650 kit so i hope it would make bout 540whp but how will the ess tune go with this?

Singletrack · 12-07-2011, 12:10 PM

Very elegant install and great results! Congrats to TMR and Shiv!

Bizarre about the original OE tune.

shiv@vishnu · 12-07-2011, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh

will its a 650 kit so i hope it would make bout 540whp but how will the ess tune go with this?

It will work just fine. The only difference is that you would install the nozzles at the outlet end tank of the intercooler. Just running meth with no Procede mapping changes should be worth a passive gain of 20-25whp. And you could likely pick up another 20whp by adjusting the timing/AFR map if you chose to. We will have maps available for each scenario.

alpine335i · 12-07-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

I would ask ESS if I were you ...

Yeah i would assume if you did this with the ESS kit they might not warranty anything if you have any problems. Does ESS offer their own meth kit? Cause that would be the way to go.

shiv@vishnu · 12-07-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ateam

Could you post a DIY for all of us to guage whether we can hack it or not by ourselves! Amateur hour for all of us wannabe mechanics

During my TX trip, I'll be taking pics for the installation manual which should be ready soon. It's truly an easy DIY. Even easier than the n54 version of the kit since you don't have to replace the chargepipe.

leigh · 12-07-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alpine335i

Yeah i would assume if you did this with the ESS kit they might not warranty anything if you have any problems. Does ESS offer their own meth kit? Cause that would be the way to go.

You would need to ask first haha

leigh · 12-07-2011, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It will work just fine. The only difference is that you would install the nozzles at the outlet end tank of the intercooler. Just running meth with no Procede mapping changes should be worth a passive gain of 20-25whp. And you could likely pick up another 20whp by adjusting the timing/AFR map if you chose to. We will have maps available for each scenario.

Would ess be happy if you changed timimg and the AFR map?

Bluesummer · 12-20-2011, 04:13 AM

wow... I can't believe this was happening when I was getting my seats coded. I would've stick around a little bit more if I knew something awesome was happening

I want that meth kit and procede on my car

saeedg48 · 12-20-2011, 04:28 AM

venders PM me on a meth kits... price and details**

TMR · 12-20-2011, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesummer

wow... I can't believe this was happening when I was getting my seats coded. I would've stick around a little bit more if I knew something awesome was happening

I want that meth kit and procede on my car

Your car looked and sounded awesome! I will be going back in a few months after my pulley and intake get installed. Shooting for over 420.

GT3 Tim · 12-20-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saeedg48

venders PM me on a meth kits... price and details**

Me too. Send some info.....

shiv@vishnu · 12-20-2011, 10:10 PM

Hi Guys,
Sorry I've been out of town for the past few days. Just trying to catch up on things. As well as finish the last piece (power steering reservoir bracket) for the PWM Meth kit. Should have this done within the next couple of days and will post up final pics/pricing shortly thereafter. We are very excited about this new market and results we've been seeing on this S65. I'm looking forward to releasing all the info/pics you guys have been waiting for

Cheers,
Shiv

immiketoo · 12-20-2011, 11:42 PM

So I don't get it. Do you have to use the window fluid reservoir? Does it completely eliminate the use of it, or does it use the windshield fluid its self? That is some type of methanol right?

bchang2001 · 12-21-2011, 12:06 AM

shiv what is your email? your PM box is full

GT3 Tim · 12-21-2011, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi Guys,
Sorry I've been out of town for the past few days. Just trying to catch up on things. As well as finish the last piece (power steering reservoir bracket) for the PWM Meth kit. Should have this done within the next couple of days and will post up final pics/pricing shortly thereafter. We are very excited about this new market and results we've been seeing on this S65. I'm looking forward to releasing all the info/pics you guys have been waiting for

Cheers,
Shiv

Awesome.

Bluesummer · 12-21-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesummer

wow... I can't believe this was happening when I was getting my seats coded. I would've stick around a little bit more if I knew something awesome was happening

I want that meth kit and procede on my car

Your car looked and sounded awesome! I will be going back in a few months after my pulley and intake get installed. Shooting for over 420.

Thanks! Please let me know when you do go back for more dyno. Let's grab a coffee or something, I really wanna check out how hard your car is pulling with the current set up.

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12-06-2011, 08:13 PM	#45
leigh Captain Drives: 2011 e92 zcp m3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: melbourne Posts: 611 iTrader: (0)	I have only tested it on one supercharged car running a g-power intercooled system. But it would work identically on any supercharger, regardless of manufacturer. Just install it and go. Shiv[/quote] yeah but how do you know what size injecter and where to put it?

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Ateam Banned Drives: M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,111 iTrader: (0)	Could you post a DIY for all of us to guage whether we can hack it or not by ourselves! Amateur hour for all of us wannabe mechanics

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shiv@vishnu Drives: PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA Posts: 16,703 iTrader: (0)	Hi Guys, Sorry I've been out of town for the past few days. Just trying to catch up on things. As well as finish the last piece (power steering reservoir bracket) for the PWM Meth kit. Should have this done within the next couple of days and will post up final pics/pricing shortly thereafter. We are very excited about this new market and results we've been seeing on this S65. I'm looking forward to releasing all the info/pics you guys have been waiting for Cheers, Shiv

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