Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

frankzlin79 · 09-21-2011, 09:14 PM

Year/model BMW:
2010 M3 E90

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Front:Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension:
Eibach Pro Kit
Stock EDC

Spacer size:
Front: MS 12 mm front
Rear: MS 10 mm rear

I can confirm that with the setup above, the rear tires WILL rub when going over some decent sized bumps! On even roads, there is no rub. The rubbing is unfortunate, because the setup looks amazing. I was just delivered a 5 mm set from EAS to swap out the 10 mm set in the rear. This should solve my rub issue. There is no rubbing with the 12 mm spacers in the front...even going over some massive humps in the road (although I haven't hit a pot-hole to test my conclusion).

BEFORE

AFTER:

The tire hits right where my finger is...on the inside of the plastic fender liner in the rear. The rub only occurs if I hit a moderately sized hump in the road, but enough for the fender to chew through a very thin sliver of rubber ring around my tire.

I will post pictures again when I have the 5 mm spacers installed in the rear. So yeah, I'm gonna be the odd ball guy on the forum running 12 mm front and 5 mm rear.... =(

///M Ryder · 09-21-2011, 10:42 PM

Looking good......5mm in the rear should be perfect........Phil

frankzlin79 · 09-22-2011, 08:38 PM

Year/model BMW:
2010 M3 E90

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension:
Eibach Pro Kit
Stock EDC

Spacer size:
Front: MS 12 mm
Rear: MS 5 mm

Okay, I have my 5 mm rear spacers installed in the rear now. So far no rub! You can definitely tell the difference between my prior 10 mm setup and the 5 mm. I'd rather look less aggressive and have no rub, rather than look very aggressive and rub.

Archiebabes · 10-03-2011, 03:17 PM

PM me the aggressive spacer fitment without rubbing on the rear with the specs below.

Wheels/offset:
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Rear: Nitto NT05 275/30-19
It has a 10.71 inches tire width.

Should I go with 15mm or 12mm spacers?

Thanks.

EAS · 10-03-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archiebabes

PM me the aggressive spacer fitment without rubbing on the rear with the specs below.

Wheels/offset:
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Rear: Nitto NT05 275/30-19
It has a 10.71 inches tire width.

Should I go with 15mm or 12mm spacers?

Thanks.

Pm coming your way Archie

JA///MES · 10-04-2011, 02:34 PM

Good thing I found this before I made the purchase. Im running the PSS 255/35/19 in the front and 275/35/19 in the rear. My buddy has a set of MS 12MM spacers that he would like to sell so I am considering those. I am new at this whole posting thing and PMing but I am needing to know what the most aggressive spacer set up I can run without having any rubbing. I will also be adding Eibach lowering springs if that makes any difference, shouldn't but this is a learning process. Thanks.

JA///MES · 10-04-2011, 02:37 PM

I went back and looked more closely at the thread and from what I gather. You can run a 5MM spacer in the rear and a 12MM spacer in the front on PSS 255/35/19s and 275/35/19s with no rubbing issues. Is this a true statement? Thanks.

EAS · 10-04-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JA///MES

I went back and looked more closely at the thread and from what I gather. You can run a 5MM spacer in the rear and a 12MM spacer in the front on PSS 255/35/19s and 275/35/19s with no rubbing issues. Is this a true statement? Thanks.

PM coming.

anthony @ eas · 10-06-2011, 06:08 PM

Year/model BMW:
2010 M3 E92

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Front:Michelin PS2 245/35-19
Rear: Michelin PS2 265/35-19

Suspension:
Modified RD Sport Springs

Spacer size:
Front: MS 10 mm
Rear: MS 5 mm

tom @ eas · 12-02-2011, 01:59 PM

Year/model BMW
2010 M3 E92

Wheels/offset
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25

Tire size
Front:Michelin PS2 245/35-19
Rear: Michelin PS2 265/35-19

Suspension
OEM BMW ZCP Springs

Spacer size
Front: Macht Schnell 12mm
Rear: Macht Schnell 12mm

dtmwerksm3 · 12-02-2011, 06:41 PM

What sizes would you recommend for an e92 with OEM 19's on B&G springs?

EAS · 12-02-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtmwerksm3

What sizes would you recommend for an e92 with OEM 19's on B&G springs?

We would recommend the 15/12 combo if you're on stock sized tires, but some have gone with 18/15 for the more daring, since it may rub with the latter

dtmwerksm3 · 12-02-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david @ eas

We would recommend the 15/12 combo if you're on stock sized tires, but some have gone with 18/15 for the more daring, since it may rub with the latter

Thank ya sir! Prolly go the 15/12 route.

kmarei · 12-02-2011, 10:32 PM

Any idea what's an aggressive setup for a ZCP equipped car using 18" Apex arc 8 wheels?
9.5" fronts and 10" rears

M3SQRD · 12-02-2011, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankzlin79

Year/model BMW:
2010 M3 E90

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET25

Tire size:
Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension:
Eibach Pro Kit
Stock EDC

Spacer size:
Front: MS 12 mm
Rear: MS 5 mm

Okay, I have my 5 mm rear spacers installed in the rear now. So far no rub! You can definitely tell the difference between my prior 10 mm setup and the 5 mm. I'd rather look less aggressive and have no rub, rather than look very aggressive and rub.

IMO, this looks better than your 1st setup - still has an aggressive look and no rub

M3SQRD · 12-02-2011, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmarei

Any idea what's an aggressive setup for a ZCP equipped car using 18" Apex arc 8 wheels?
9.5" fronts and 10" rears

What are the offsets? What tire brand and sizes are you using?

SROC3 · 12-02-2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Year/model BMW
2010 M3 E92

Wheels/offset
Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET31
Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25

Tire size
Front:Michelin PS2 245/35-19
Rear: Michelin PS2 265/35-19

Suspension
OEM BMW ZCP Springs

Spacer size
Front: Macht Schnell 12mm
Rear: Macht Schnell 12mm

Oh sweet!!!

That's my car!!! I decided on the 12mm square (all around setup) and I'm on a standard ZCP setup. I think it sits perfectly. 15/12 is preferred by most but unless im any lower the "sit" is just right

Thanks again for the GREAT service at EAS! WELL worth the drive out there and great people who are very eager to answer all questions. Thanks to Kevin and Tom!

kmarei · 12-02-2011, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarnes

What are the offsets? What tire brand and sizes are you using?

Well that's where it gets complicated

My car has ZCP, but not using the ZCP wheels (never using 19"s again)
I would like to get a set of spacers that I can use for winter AND summer
My winter setup is 9.5" front/rear et22 with 245/40 18"s
My summer is Apex Arc 8 9.5" et22 front and 10" rear et25 ( no tires on them yet) I'd like to get 255/35 18" front and 275/35 18" rear in pilot super sports

I'd like something like a 10mm spacer
Not going for super aggressive, but just to have the wheels/tires flush with fenders

M3SQRD · 12-02-2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmarei

Well that's where it gets complicated

My car has ZCP, but not using the ZCP wheels (never using 19"s again)
I would like to get a set of spacers that I can use for winter AND summer
My winter setup is 9.5" front/rear et22 with 245/40 18"s
My summer is Apex Arc 8 9.5" et22 front and 10" rear et25 ( no tires on them yet) I'd like to get 255/35 18" front and 275/35 18" rear in pilot super sports

I'd like something like a 10mm spacer
Not going for super aggressive, but just to have the wheels/tires flush with fenders

Actually, that doesn't sound overly complicated but I think you'll end up with compromised setups if you only want one set of F/R spacers.
I think your problem is going to be with the rear because, to get the same look, the winter spacer needs to be thicker than the summer spacer due to the different rear wheel widths/offsets and tire widths.

Do you plan on lowering your car?

Dodge2Dub · 12-03-2011, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtmwerksm3

What sizes would you recommend for an e92 with OEM 19's on B&G springs?

What size do you recommend for an E90 with OEM 220M's on B&G springs with 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 Michelin PSS tires?

infantrytroop22 · 12-03-2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SROC3

15/12 is preferred by most but unless im any lower the "sit" is just right

What do you mean by "unless im any lower the 'sit' is just right"? I have the same car (different color) and am considering getting spacers front and rear until my tires wear out and I purchase wider tires. Why did you go with 12/12 instead of 15/12?

Gins · 12-04-2011, 06:14 PM

MS 18/15 Setup, stock 18s, stock suspension (EDC).

09-21-2011, 09:14 PM	#221
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,618 iTrader: (5)	Year/model BMW: 2010 M3 E90 Wheels/offset: Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET31 Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET25 Tire size: Front:Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19 Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19 Suspension: Eibach Pro Kit Stock EDC Spacer size: Front: MS 12 mm front Rear: MS 10 mm rear I can confirm that with the setup above, the rear tires WILL rub when going over some decent sized bumps! On even roads, there is no rub. The rubbing is unfortunate, because the setup looks amazing. I was just delivered a 5 mm set from EAS to swap out the 10 mm set in the rear. This should solve my rub issue. There is no rubbing with the 12 mm spacers in the front...even going over some massive humps in the road (although I haven't hit a pot-hole to test my conclusion). BEFORE AFTER: The tire hits right where my finger is...on the inside of the plastic fender liner in the rear. The rub only occurs if I hit a moderately sized hump in the road, but enough for the fender to chew through a very thin sliver of rubber ring around my tire. I will post pictures again when I have the 5 mm spacers installed in the rear. So yeah, I'm gonna be the odd ball guy on the forum running 12 mm front and 5 mm rear.... =( Last edited by frankzlin79; 09-21-2011 at 09:22 PM.
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09-21-2011, 10:42 PM	#222
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09-22-2011, 08:38 PM	#223
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,618 iTrader: (5)	12 mm front / 5 mm rear Year/model BMW: 2010 M3 E90 Wheels/offset: Front: 19x9.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET31 Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 GTS ZCP, ET25 Tire size: Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19 Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19 Suspension: Eibach Pro Kit Stock EDC Spacer size: Front: MS 12 mm Rear: MS 5 mm Okay, I have my 5 mm rear spacers installed in the rear now. So far no rub! You can definitely tell the difference between my prior 10 mm setup and the 5 mm. I'd rather look less aggressive and have no rub, rather than look very aggressive and rub.
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10-04-2011, 02:34 PM	#226
JA///MES PLZRACE Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico now fml... Posts: 373 iTrader: (3)	Thank God! Good thing I found this before I made the purchase. Im running the PSS 255/35/19 in the front and 275/35/19 in the rear. My buddy has a set of MS 12MM spacers that he would like to sell so I am considering those. I am new at this whole posting thing and PMing but I am needing to know what the most aggressive spacer set up I can run without having any rubbing. I will also be adding Eibach lowering springs if that makes any difference, shouldn't but this is a learning process. Thanks. __________________ 2011 E90 JBM ///M3 DCT l Gintani Catless X-Pipe w/ Hybrid Exhaust l Vishnu Procede V5 with Meth l l RE Pulleys l Tecnocraft Envy l Arkym CF Diffuser l CF BMW Spoiler l Arkym CF Front Bumper l GB ///M Badge l GB Side Markers l GB Kidney Grills l PSS 275/255/35/19s l VMR VB3s in Hyper Black l CF Steering Wheel Trim l ///M Pedals l Black Tow Hooks l Eibach Springs l GP Thunder Bulbs l IND Key Hole Cover l BMW PSW l Verstrabe Paddles
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10-04-2011, 02:37 PM	#227
JA///MES PLZRACE Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico now fml... Posts: 373 iTrader: (3)	I think I got it! I went back and looked more closely at the thread and from what I gather. You can run a 5MM spacer in the rear and a 12MM spacer in the front on PSS 255/35/19s and 275/35/19s with no rubbing issues. Is this a true statement? Thanks. __________________ 2011 E90 JBM ///M3 DCT l Gintani Catless X-Pipe w/ Hybrid Exhaust l Vishnu Procede V5 with Meth l l RE Pulleys l Tecnocraft Envy l Arkym CF Diffuser l CF BMW Spoiler l Arkym CF Front Bumper l GB ///M Badge l GB Side Markers l GB Kidney Grills l PSS 275/255/35/19s l VMR VB3s in Hyper Black l CF Steering Wheel Trim l ///M Pedals l Black Tow Hooks l Eibach Springs l GP Thunder Bulbs l IND Key Hole Cover l BMW PSW l Verstrabe Paddles
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10-03-2011, 03:17 PM	#224
Archiebabes Lieutenant Drives: 2008 BMW M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Van Nuys, CA Posts: 473 iTrader: (10)	PM me the aggressive spacer fitment without rubbing on the rear with the specs below. Wheels/offset: Rear: 19x10.0 OEM M3 ZCP, ET25 Tire size: Rear: Nitto NT05 275/30-19 It has a 10.71 inches tire width. Should I go with 15mm or 12mm spacers? Thanks.
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