2008 M3 Base Price - Real Calculations

DrDomer · 06-18-2007, 10:36 AM

I've done some simple research and math to come up with the base price on the new 2008 M3. If you go tohttp://www.bmw.de/de/de/index_highend.html the listed price for a base 2008 M3 is 66650 euros which is $89,328. Now the base price for a 335i coupe listed on the same site is 44650 euros which is $59829. The US base price for a 335i coupe is $40,800. If you take $40,800 divided by $59829 and multiply that ratio times $89,328 you get a US base price of $60,916. I think that sounds pretty accurate. Anyone have any other info on pricing? I figure a fully loaded one is going to get to $70K.

RRGOO7 · 06-18-2007, 10:38 AM

i think the base price will be in the 50's like the old M3

JIMD1709 · 06-18-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RRGOO7

i think the base price will be in the 50's like the old M3

yeah, like $59999.00........plus destination!

DrDomer · 06-18-2007, 10:42 AM

I just figured that if we had a solid price from Germany on the new M3 and a price on a 335i the ratio of the two in markup would be similar compared to known prices from the US on the 335i. I hope your right. I could swing a $55K car, but not a $65K car.

canucklion · 06-18-2007, 10:54 AM

this is all BS until the real pricing comes out.

RichP · 06-18-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JIMD1709

yeah, like $59999.00........plus destination!

Yeah, that is probably about right, very high 50s. Expect most optioned out to be just below 70K

Spool · 06-18-2007, 11:09 AM

Couple of Magazines estimated it to be 55K-70K for base price..

then you look at the price range and you're like, wtf?

that's like going to identify a suspect and telling the cops, yeah, the guy was between 5' and 7' tall...and he weigh somewhere between 100-300 lbs....does that help?

DrDomer · 06-18-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

this is all BS until the real pricing comes out.

Well... Yes... Anyone have a better way to estimate the price? Especially since we actually HAVE a price, just one that is overseas.

dmboone25 · 06-18-2007, 11:25 AM

When you guys are saying "optioned out", what kind of stuff are you thinking of adding? I would think that the base M3 would come with most of the things you would want--I mean, does a stripped down M3 really exist?

OC 335i · 06-18-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

Well... Yes... Anyone have a better way to estimate the price? Especially since we actually HAVE a price, just one that is overseas.

Yeah, wait for the real U.S. pricing to come out.

canucklion · 06-18-2007, 12:21 PM

so what? history has shown us that prices oversea is not a good indicator for prices in the US and Canada.

At this point, it's all conjecture, I'm just saying what's the point in guessing the price right now, when all we have to do is wait for the official announcement?

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

Well... Yes... Anyone have a better way to estimate the price? Especially since we actually HAVE a price, just one that is overseas.

RichP · 06-18-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

so what? history has shown us that prices oversea is not a good indicator for prices in the US and Canada.

At this point, it's all conjecture, I'm just saying what's the point in guessing the price right now, when all we have to do is wait for the official announcement?

Its a BMW forum about current and future cars, part of the content of such a forum is speculation.

RichP · 06-18-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

When you guys are saying "optioned out", what kind of stuff are you thinking of adding? I would think that the base M3 would come with most of the things you would want--I mean, does a stripped down M3 really exist?

Some sort of premium package will exist, navigation, cold weather package, etc. M3s dont come loaded up like the m5/6

user1 · 06-18-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

I've done some simple research and math to come up with the base price on the new 2008 M3
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you get a US base price of $60,916. I think that sounds pretty accurate. Anyone have any other info on pricing? I figure a fully loaded one is going to get to $70K.

There are about 15k worth of options for the 335 (fully optioned 335 coupe is near 56k msrp). The M3 will have as many options and some exclusive options that cost more. I'm guessing between 15-20k worth of options. Few people fully load an M3. Based on your guess the range will be closer to 59-75k. Not bad for an over 400HP M engine and all the M goodies in a 3 series.

KP22 · 06-18-2007, 12:37 PM

Why are cars so cheap in the US?

US guys, please do not complain if you do not get the M-sport package if you can buy cars with those prices. Base price of 335i E92 is around E38k in Europe tax free and then add teh local taxes. This makes around USD 47.5k + taxes .And your cars are better equipped as standard (logic7 etc..)

ejazbmw · 06-18-2007, 05:41 PM

im gonna guess and say 64k why? i dont know it just sounded right

swamp2 · 06-18-2007, 07:20 PM

Man you folks should do a bit of reading of the history on the board before such weak posts (mostly directed at the OP). The German price has been known for a long time and we have all been using ratios, German, UK, SA, etc. for some time to get a better idea of the US base price. Some ratios seem reasonable, some don't work at all. Then selective choice of data (i.e. totally unscientific and biased) gives you a number you think is reasonable.

The ratio method works sometimes and sometimes not, no real way to predict exactly when it will work.

GregW / Oregon · 06-18-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

I just figured that if we had a solid price from Germany on the new M3 and a price on a 335i the ratio of the two in markup would be similar compared to known prices from the US on the 335i. I hope your right. I could swing a $55K car, but not a $65K car.

Using South African prices puts it in the $56-59k+ range, depending on what you compare it to. I think best any of these comparisons tels us is that it'll be roughly $55 - 60K US base. You can analyze it all you want but until BMWUSA announces it, it's all educated speculation.

stressdoc · 06-18-2007, 10:50 PM

Options that I would want on my M3:
ECD (the cockpit adjustable shocks), 19" wheels. Keep it simple. Cloth & leather. No heavy stereo. And under 60k.

It looks like there will be some big $ electronic options.

karan230 · 06-18-2007, 11:56 PM

I bet it's going to be $55K base price. =)

tdc · 06-19-2007, 09:18 AM

Base price of an M3 usually falls right within a few hundred of a fully loaded top end 3-series coupe.

The E46 M3 started with a base price of $46,995 back in 2001. A fully loaded 330Ci came in around $47,500-48,000.

Expect to see the same pricing strategy with the new M3. A fully loaded 335i coupe runs around $55k. The new M3 should start right around that price; perhaps $54,995 or $55,995.

bimmer san diego · 06-21-2007, 10:45 PM

I agree $70K in the States sounds about right. Don't be fooled by MSRP. Just saw 328 convertible on show room floor with sticker of $58K. No way M3 will fall in 50 to 60K range. Tack on options, rims, etc. = $75K. Dealers will be taking advantage too! Talk to fleet sales for reality check.

06-18-2007, 10:36 AM	#1
DrDomer Major Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,348 iTrader: (0)	2008 M3 Base Price - Real Calculations I've done some simple research and math to come up with the base price on the new 2008 M3. If you go tohttp://www.bmw.de/de/de/index_highend.html the listed price for a base 2008 M3 is 66650 euros which is $89,328. Now the base price for a 335i coupe listed on the same site is 44650 euros which is $59829. The US base price for a 335i coupe is $40,800. If you take $40,800 divided by $59829 and multiply that ratio times $89,328 you get a US base price of $60,916. I think that sounds pretty accurate. Anyone have any other info on pricing? I figure a fully loaded one is going to get to $70K. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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06-18-2007, 10:42 AM	#4
DrDomer Major Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,348 iTrader: (0)	I just figured that if we had a solid price from Germany on the new M3 and a price on a 335i the ratio of the two in markup would be similar compared to known prices from the US on the 335i. I hope your right. I could swing a $55K car, but not a $65K car. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein

06-18-2007, 10:54 AM	#5
canucklion pull my finger to get your kinder® surprise Drives: circles around you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 10,454 iTrader: (9)	this is all BS until the real pricing comes out. __________________

06-18-2007, 11:09 AM	#7
Spool ****** Drives: A few Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro Posts: 6,165 iTrader: (24)	Couple of Magazines estimated it to be 55K-70K for base price.. then you look at the price range and you're like, wtf? that's like going to identify a suspect and telling the cops, yeah, the guy was between 5' and 7' tall...and he weigh somewhere between 100-300 lbs....does that help? __________________ MKIV 6spd 1000hp Club

06-18-2007, 11:25 AM	#9
dmboone25 Brigadier General Drives: 2011 E82 N55 135i/DUC M1100EVO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL & Indianapolis IN Posts: 4,017 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 328i [0.00] 2007 328i [0.00]	When you guys are saying "optioned out", what kind of stuff are you thinking of adding? I would think that the base M3 would come with most of the things you would want--I mean, does a stripped down M3 really exist? __________________ Current - 2011 N55/DCT E82 135i--Lemans Blue, Gray Leather, M Sport, Premium Past BMWs: 2008 E82 135 - AW, N54, MT 2007 E92 328 - JB, N52, MT, ZSP (traded in for 135) 2007 E92 328 - JB, N52, MT (retired by a drunk driver)

06-18-2007, 10:38 AM	#2
RRGOO7 Colonel Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 2,438 iTrader: (13)	i think the base price will be in the 50's like the old M3

06-18-2007, 12:37 PM	#15
KP22 Private First Class Drives: 335i E92 M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 128 iTrader: (0)	Why are cars so cheap in the US? US guys, please do not complain if you do not get the M-sport package if you can buy cars with those prices. Base price of 335i E92 is around E38k in Europe tax free and then add teh local taxes. This makes around USD 47.5k + taxes .And your cars are better equipped as standard (logic7 etc..)

06-18-2007, 05:41 PM	#16
ejazbmw blahhh Drives: 2011 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 6,335 iTrader: (7)	im gonna guess and say 64k why? i dont know it just sounded right

06-18-2007, 07:20 PM	#17
swamp2 Major General Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 8,317 iTrader: (1)	Read up Man you folks should do a bit of reading of the history on the board before such weak posts (mostly directed at the OP). The German price has been known for a long time and we have all been using ratios, German, UK, SA, etc. for some time to get a better idea of the US base price. Some ratios seem reasonable, some don't work at all. Then selective choice of data (i.e. totally unscientific and biased) gives you a number you think is reasonable. The ratio method works sometimes and sometimes not, no real way to predict exactly when it will work.

06-18-2007, 10:50 PM	#19
stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 9,341 iTrader: (0)	Options that I would want on my M3: ECD (the cockpit adjustable shocks), 19" wheels. Keep it simple. Cloth & leather. No heavy stereo. And under 60k. It looks like there will be some big $ electronic options. __________________ My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, V5, M-sport, ... Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279

06-18-2007, 11:56 PM	#20
karan230 400 hp :) Drives: SLK230 Sport Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: OC Posts: 380 iTrader: (0)	I bet it's going to be $55K base price. =)

06-19-2007, 09:18 AM	#21
tdc always notorious Drives: beater Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	Base price of an M3 usually falls right within a few hundred of a fully loaded top end 3-series coupe. The E46 M3 started with a base price of $46,995 back in 2001. A fully loaded 330Ci came in around $47,500-48,000. Expect to see the same pricing strategy with the new M3. A fully loaded 335i coupe runs around $55k. The new M3 should start right around that price; perhaps $54,995 or $55,995. __________________ stockwerks

06-21-2007, 10:45 PM	#22
bimmer san diego New Member Drives: bmw 740iL Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	M3 Price Tag I agree $70K in the States sounds about right. Don't be fooled by MSRP. Just saw 328 convertible on show room floor with sticker of $58K. No way M3 will fall in 50 to 60K range. Tack on options, rims, etc. = $75K. Dealers will be taking advantage too! Talk to fleet sales for reality check.

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