I rode behind the new M3 in the Canyons today! - Page 2

Cadillac Johnson · 06-17-2007, 08:06 PM

I know it's all speculation right now, but I'm guessing the M3 will start at $59-$61, and then low $70's optioned out.

BMW stated they want the new M3 to be more exclusive, ie: more expensive. Although they also said they wanted it more raw than the E46, but carbon fiber roofs and 50+lbs electronic seats dont scream raw to me. So, who knows.. but high 50's low 60's is my guess for the base.

smellthebeans · 06-17-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

They tried that before with the 325Ti. We saw how that turned out. Im not opposed to it, but how many people are going to buy a 1 series for that much when they can get a GTI, A3, or even Mazdaspeed3 for half?

Mazda? not in the same leauge....dependable car my GF drives an 06 Mazda 3.

even if 1series comes with the N52 engine (with 3 stage intake) in the US 1er it will still be quick. With the N54B30! WOW! lookout!

As far as price points go I have to agree with the idea that it will start some where just above where a fully loaded 335 will end.

ADHD · 06-17-2007, 10:19 PM

lolol what canyon!!! 2?

Jay_328 · 06-17-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rabyrab

i left the cell at home but youll see it soon enough in 9 mths, lol

dude how can you drive around without a cell or digicam? ...that's unreal

chbrules · 06-17-2007, 10:23 PM

For $80k I'd rather try to get a used ferrari F360. But I agree, I think the thing will be $70k (max) fully loaded.

a burrito · 06-18-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by darkcloud

I mean a fully loaded E92 335i convertible costs about 50K.

You've got to be out of your mind. a e92 335i vert starts at 49,100 and a fully loaded 335i vert is a bit over 60k. I am going to geuss the m3 will start about 63-64 which would be about 48% price difference from the 335i. the m3 will not be cheap and will be near 911 terratory and will NOT BE close to the m5 territory(in terms of price). off topic- when did anyone ever buy the m5 or m6 for their performance? its too heavy to be a performer and too ugly to be called an exotic. its a waste of money. the m3 on the other hand give your more performance per buck. its lighter, more nimble, and much more attractive.

But, weighing all odds, i would NEVER get a m3 if it exceeds 60k range. A BMW will need much more time and experience to build a performance car worth 60k+. I'd rather give my business to Porsche.

Anyways back to the op- I really wished you would have recorded the drive to see just how well the bmw handles. It sure sounds like you had a good drive.

wj4 · 06-18-2007, 01:16 AM

^I was debating that with my friends. At the 60K mark..I'd probably choose a new Cayman S as much as I love BMW's and all.

m3 bavaria · 06-18-2007, 01:41 AM

I can't imagine that an M3 is going to cost 20-30k more than the E92.

There's no way that it's worth THAT much of a premium.

I'd be willing to bet that it's around $65k for a nicely kitted example.

murellus · 06-18-2007, 02:23 AM

bmw's product line is getting crowded and with the 1 series will only make it even more crowded...but that aside...i cant see the m3 costing that much...what is the separation between the m3 and m5 at this point? not that much money.

MrHarris · 06-18-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by a burrito

You've got to be out of your mind. a e92 335i vert starts at 49,100 and a fully loaded 335i vert is a bit over 60k. I am going to geuss the m3 will start about 63-64 which would be about 48% price difference from the 335i. the m3 will not be cheap and will be near 911 terratory and will NOT BE close to the m5 territory(in terms of price). off topic- when did anyone ever buy the m5 or m6 for their performance? its too heavy to be a performer and too ugly to be called an exotic. its a waste of money. the m3 on the other hand give your more performance per buck. its lighter, more nimble, and much more attractive.

But, weighing all odds, i would NEVER get a m3 if it exceeds 60k range. A BMW will need much more time and experience to build a performance car worth 60k+. I'd rather give my business to Porsche.

Anyways back to the op- I really wished you would have recorded the drive to see just how well the bmw handles. It sure sounds like you had a good drive.

I second that if the m3 pops over 70k.

Frank_NJ · 06-18-2007, 07:23 AM

Let me throw my guess into the pot and I will say base MSRP is $54,995 plus shipping.

The crazy thing is if you go to BMW's Germany site it has the car listed under car configurator and pricing is there for that market.

herbz · 06-18-2007, 07:29 AM

It's my personal belief that everyone who wants an M3, *really* wants an M1. I'm sorry, but at 3500lbs with a V8, the new M3 is a pig these days. Not to mention the extreme price factor. We can thank the competition and general demand for the fact that the 3 series has just gotten huger and fatter and more expensive over the years. I'm just glad BMW is bringing some purity back to its name with its (hopefully) close to 3000lb 1 series.

edit: 500th post, yippe!

jpan08 · 06-18-2007, 11:24 AM

the new M3 a bit too hyped up?

2m3 · 06-18-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wj4

^I was debating that with my friends. At the 60K mark..I'd probably choose a new Cayman S as much as I love BMW's and all.

Plus 500-600 lbs lighter.

bullitt5897 · 06-18-2007, 02:39 PM

Cayman S will cost alot more with similar options and will have significantly less power! I am sticking with the M and if the so called launch is in april then I am taking ED in the fall and having mine before all you guys HEHEHEHE LOL

rabyrab · 06-18-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ADHD

lolol what canyon!!! 2?

I was going up Malibu Cyn Rd made a left on Mulhullond and there it was just getting to the light, so i flipped a bitch where it was the stupidest move ive ever done without crashing but sure enough i was right, there was the new M3 in front of me for like 1 hr, this car has more performance than any 53k car so there is no way it will sell for under 58K!!!! quote me on that.

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Originally Posted by Jay_328

dude how can you drive around without a cell or digicam? ...that's unreal

So unreal like i just don't know, oh my god like it was a mistake okay. LOL!

It was stripped down to go beneath the radar, so not much aesthetically to look at besides the mirrors that are like WHOA. and the vents in the side, he had a sunroof so no carbon fiber otherwise i would really feel like an idiot forgetting my cell. And of course the quads, man it sounded like no other out the box as this one did in person He is a good driver had great lines and never pushed it to make the tires squeal at all, i think cause he didn't know the rads and was going to fast to use the nav!

a burrito · 06-18-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wj4

^I was debating that with my friends. At the 60K mark..I'd probably choose a new Cayman S as much as I love BMW's and all.

its a better choice. i've driven them all and even debated between the cayman/ cayman s against a z4m. the regular cayman is much more exhilarating to drive than the z4m. although the z4m is quite the performer, the porsche just has a very uniform driving experience. Porsche itself is just in a different league. our family has owned e46 330ci, e90 330i (mine), x5 4.8is, x5 4.4i, 750il, 535i, cayene turb s, and a boxster and off the bat there is a huge difference in building theory and build quality. Porsche doesnt put new technology on their cars till its proven, bmw experiments. Hence the 335i for a good example. Ever hear any problems with any of the 911 turbos or the newly introduced cayman?

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Originally Posted by murellus

bmw's product line is getting crowded and with the 1 series will only make it even more crowded...but that aside...i cant see the m3 costing that much...what is the separation between the m3 and m5 at this point? not that much money.

thats true. but i think its a smart move. bmw wants to take the market of the 24-31k priced cars which includes the wrx/sti, evo, gti, 350z..etc.. its a HUGE market.

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

I second that if the m3 pops over 70k.

jj if it was your pops, he'd opt get the cayman s if it was anywhere close to 50 haha..

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Cayman S will cost alot more with similar options and will have significantly less power! I am sticking with the M and if the so called launch is in april then I am taking ED in the fall and having mine before all you guys HEHEHEHE LOL

If you were opting to get a porsche and its not a cayenne or a 911 turbo, you usually dont pack the cars with alot of options. its quite popular to add in heated seats, xenon, and bose but a lot of Porsche buyers love their cars more bare bones when they are looking at the cayman/s boxster/s and 911/c4. Also if you've ever tried buying a Porsche, you will know that you can get quite a discount on these cars. If you deal right, you can get anywhere from 10-15% off the cars sticker which would make a regular 911 a potential threat to the m3 msrp.

Hans Delbruck · 06-18-2007, 05:57 PM

You didn't say what color it was.......

I hope the new M3 is too expensive for punks to afford it.

rabyrab · 06-18-2007, 06:00 PM

Monte Blue, so sweet...

jpan08 · 06-18-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck

You didn't say what color it was.......

I hope the new M3 is too expensive for punks to afford it.

agreed

06-17-2007, 10:19 PM	#25
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06-17-2007, 08:06 PM	#23
Cadillac Johnson Free taco with stolen base Drives: 335i? GTR? RS5? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 639 iTrader: (0)	I know it's all speculation right now, but I'm guessing the M3 will start at $59-$61, and then low $70's optioned out. BMW stated they want the new M3 to be more exclusive, ie: more expensive. Although they also said they wanted it more raw than the E46, but carbon fiber roofs and 50+lbs electronic seats dont scream raw to me. So, who knows.. but high 50's low 60's is my guess for the base.

06-18-2007, 01:16 AM	#29
wj4 Major General Drives: E90 manual 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 7,723 iTrader: (8)	^I was debating that with my friends. At the 60K mark..I'd probably choose a new Cayman S as much as I love BMW's and all.

06-18-2007, 01:41 AM	#30
m3 bavaria Indecisive lover of the M badge. Drives: 2007 335i (DINAN) 2007 M Coupe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 99 iTrader: (0)	I can't imagine that an M3 is going to cost 20-30k more than the E92. There's no way that it's worth THAT much of a premium. I'd be willing to bet that it's around $65k for a nicely kitted example.

06-18-2007, 02:23 AM	#31
murellus Lieutenant Drives: 07 e90 328xi, 09 987S Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: pgh/nyc Posts: 500 iTrader: (0)	bmw's product line is getting crowded and with the 1 series will only make it even more crowded...but that aside...i cant see the m3 costing that much...what is the separation between the m3 and m5 at this point? not that much money.

06-18-2007, 07:29 AM	#34
herbz hi Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA Posts: 839 iTrader: (0)	It's my personal belief that everyone who wants an M3, really wants an M1. I'm sorry, but at 3500lbs with a V8, the new M3 is a pig these days. Not to mention the extreme price factor. We can thank the competition and general demand for the fact that the 3 series has just gotten huger and fatter and more expensive over the years. I'm just glad BMW is bringing some purity back to its name with its (hopefully) close to 3000lb 1 series. edit: 500th post, yippe!

06-18-2007, 11:24 AM	#35
jpan08 Private First Class Drives: e36 and e92 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: MA Posts: 189 iTrader: (0)	the new M3 a bit too hyped up?

06-18-2007, 02:39 PM	#37
bullitt5897 Second Lieutenant Drives: is300 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: atl Posts: 249 iTrader: (0)	Cayman S will cost alot more with similar options and will have significantly less power! I am sticking with the M and if the so called launch is in april then I am taking ED in the fall and having mine before all you guys HEHEHEHE LOL

06-18-2007, 05:57 PM	#40
Hans Delbruck BMW & MB - friends in my garage Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,284 iTrader: (0)	You didn't say what color it was....... I hope the new M3 is too expensive for punks to afford it.