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      10-30-2011, 08:45 PM   #573
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      10-31-2011, 10:33 AM   #574
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      10-31-2011, 12:51 PM   #575
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I guess since we're talking handguns il selling my m&p .40 to replace it with a 9mm for competitive shooting. It had the thumb safety option which CAN be removed but cannot be added to one that doesnt have it. Literally only has 50 rounds through it. Will only ship to a ffl for transfer
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      10-31-2011, 08:46 PM   #576
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I guess since we're talking handguns il selling my m&p .40 to replace it with a 9mm for competitive shooting. It had the thumb safety option which CAN be removed but cannot be added to one that doesnt have it. Literally only has 50 rounds through it. Will only ship to a ffl for transfer
Love my M&P 9mm...
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      11-14-2011, 10:00 PM   #577
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Looking for a Kimber 1911, remington 700 vs sf ii, and then something fun like an AR15 build.

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      11-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #578
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Looking for a Kimber 1911, remington 700 vs sf ii, and then something fun like an AR15 build.

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stop reading magazines! there are alot better 1911's out there for the same money than a kimber. they've been riding their "name" for too damn long and quality has gone way down compared to how their older guns are... anything new from them is sub-par at best if you arent buying from their custom shop, which again at those prices i would buy other custom guns.

do some research here (lots of guys who put in hard time with 1911's here and you can find alot of good info)
http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=176
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      11-15-2011, 11:25 PM   #579
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thought i could look here for advice. im turnin 21 soon and im looking to get an XD9 or something similar.

are there any handguns you would recommend?

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      11-16-2011, 12:17 AM   #580
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thought i could look here for advice. im turnin 21 soon and im looking to get an XD9 or something similar.

are there any handguns you would recommend?

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starting off, you cant go wrong with a glock or an XD. If you do decide to go with the XD9, which is a good pistol, I would recommend the XD(M)9. I feel the trigger is a lot better on the "M" models.
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      11-16-2011, 06:21 AM   #581
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thought i could look here for advice. im turnin 21 soon and im looking to get an XD9 or something similar.

are there any handguns you would recommend?

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Depends on your budget and what you're looking for in a gun. Why a 9? Is it strictly for self-defense? Is going to be for competitions? The only suggestion I can give you is right now is that you should go to a good gun range that has a ton of guns to rent so you can actually try them. Guys that work at guns stores generally know alot about them so you should visit a bunch of them, ask them what their top 5 are. That way they'll give you a good consesus and you could take the ones that were similar among the lot of them and test them out.

Personally, my choices for my first 9 were the following: Sig Sauer P228, HK P7M13, Browning Hi-Power, Walther P88, and a Glock 17. I eventually ended up with all of them, but I started out with the P228. The only one I got rid of was the Glock...not because it's a bad gun, but because it just never felt right to me.
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      11-16-2011, 11:23 AM   #582
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thanks guys. the main reason is self defense. i plan on getting a concealed weapons permit so i can keep it in my car. so a sub compact would be nice. and theres no budget yet.
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      11-16-2011, 12:20 PM   #583
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      11-16-2011, 01:48 PM   #584
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thanks guys. the main reason is self defense. i plan on getting a concealed weapons permit so i can keep it in my car. so a sub compact would be nice. and theres no budget yet.
My home protection weapon is a Sig P229 in a .40 cal. I bought a glock 26 for the exact reason you are looking to buy a sub compact. the 26 is small and easy to conceal in your waistband..
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      11-16-2011, 01:51 PM   #585
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I'm thinking of adding a nice compact shotty to my arsenal...any suggestions?
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thanks guys. the main reason is self defense. i plan on getting a concealed weapons permit so i can keep it in my car. so a sub compact would be nice. and theres no budget yet.
If you're comfortable with a gun already, a striker fire sub compact would be good like a glock, M&P or an XDM. If not, you might wanna look into getting a double action first gun so you don't have any accidents. If you're convinced you want a striker AND are comfortable with it, keep it unchambered.
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      11-16-2011, 05:07 PM   #587
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my brother in law has an XD9 and i love it. i just wanted to broaden my horizons. lol
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      11-16-2011, 08:59 PM   #588
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      11-16-2011, 09:47 PM   #590
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If you're comfortable with a gun already, a striker fire sub compact would be good like a glock, M&P or an XDM. If not, you might wanna look into getting a double action first gun so you don't have any accidents. If you're convinced you want a striker AND are comfortable with it, keep it unchambered.
damn good advice there sir


and you guys just now getting into shooting.... whether its competition or protection i still think 9mm is a GREAT caliber! and unless you have a lot of active shooting training/practice you will stop an intruder faster with a 9mm than you will a .45 because its the same logics as in competition. and people dont realize how minute the REAL difference is in modern ballistics... while recoil actually is significantly different. in a real life "situation" you arent going to have all the time in the world to re line up your shot so the faster you can can get back on target the in a "vital" area the better chance you have of stopping an attack. 7-8 fast well placed 9mm shots in center mass will stop someone a lot faster the 2-3 .45 cal shots and i dont care who says otherwise... sorry for the rant but i see WAY too many "i carry a .45 because i wanna stop em in one shot" dumb asses
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my brother in law has an XD9 and i love it. i just wanted to broaden my horizons. lol
I love my XD 9 as well. I like it better than I did my Glock 17. <braces for Glock lovers responses> Like I said, it just didn't feel right to me.

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and you guys just now getting into shooting.... whether its competition or protection i still think 9mm is a GREAT caliber! and unless you have a lot of active shooting training/practice you will stop an intruder faster with a 9mm than you will a .45 because its the same logics as in competition. and people dont realize how minute the REAL difference is in modern ballistics... while recoil actually is significantly different. in a real life "situation" you arent going to have all the time in the world to re line up your shot so the faster you can can get back on target the in a "vital" area the better chance you have of stopping an attack. 7-8 fast well placed 9mm shots in center mass will stop someone a lot faster the 2-3 .45 cal shots and i dont care who says otherwise... sorry for the rant but i see WAY too many "i carry a .45 because i wanna stop em in one shot" dumb asses
I agree with you with 9s. I'd rather have more shots...double the amount of chances to hit something when faced with diversity. Many think that by practicing shooting at stationary targets everything will be okay. They forget that someone can be running at them with a knife, or someone can surprise them to the point where they can't possibly reach their gun, or they don't realize how loud it is when they DON'T have ear protection, how fast their hearts are beating...how heavy they are breathing...and how these things will affect their shots. Trigger control is lost unless you are faced with these factors on a regular basis through intense training or battle experience like alot of the armed forces or LEOs. If I had a choice of what handgun to bring to a gun fight it would be an well modified STI with a 20+ round clip. I'm bound to hit them at least once out the 30 shots!

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and you guys just now getting into shooting.... whether its competition or protection i still think 9mm is a GREAT caliber! and unless you have a lot of active shooting training/practice you will stop an intruder faster with a 9mm than you will a .45 because its the same logics as in competition. and people dont realize how minute the REAL difference is in modern ballistics... while recoil actually is significantly different. in a real life "situation" you arent going to have all the time in the world to re line up your shot so the faster you can can get back on target the in a "vital" area the better chance you have of stopping an attack. 7-8 fast well placed 9mm shots in center mass will stop someone a lot faster the 2-3 .45 cal shots and i dont care who says otherwise... sorry for the rant but i see WAY too many "i carry a .45 because i wanna stop em in one shot" dumb asses
So you call the proponents of the 45 for stopping power dumbasses, but yet the only thing you present to argue that point are facts, mostly based on your inability to keep a 45 on target?

You really think that a 9mm is equal because 7-8 rounds center mass is acceptable? So much for carrying more rounds huh, you plan on needing 8 rounds per target. Leaves two targets per mag.

I'm leaving the "what-is-better" argument up int he air, but your logic is off man.
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So you call the proponents of the 45 for stopping power dumbasses, but yet the only thing you present to argue that point are facts, mostly based on your inability to keep a 45 on target?

You really think that a 9mm is equal because 7-8 rounds center mass is acceptable? So much for carrying more rounds huh, you plan on needing 8 rounds per target. Leaves two targets per mag.

I'm leaving the "what-is-better" argument up int he air, but your logic is off man.
in MOST situations with a person being attached its one on one. so targetS goes out the window there. putting 4 rounds in a target with a 1911 gives you just as few of targets as putting 7-8 w/ an equal full size 9mm anyway so that argument is null. i'm not knocking .45's in any way and i'm sorry if you took my comment as that. my dream handgun is a wilson tactical supergrade pro. i was referring to the kind of people who think you can stop a doped up meth head dead in his tracks with a single shot from a .45

and i would never say "how many rounds is needed" per target/ per caliber. every situation is different. you fire until the attacker stops whether it be 1,2,10 whatever. there's no magical number. i was just using an example of how long it would take to reset sights in a high stress (or hell even relaxed) situation. if you are battling a timer... i promise you'll shoot better with 9mm than you will with .45. thats just common sense.... reverse the situation i could give you a .44 and a .22 i would be shocked at all if you had the same grouping because you aren't rushed.

all that being said.... nice fucking guns man
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