PAQUIAO vs MARQUEZ - Page 2

E90///M3` · 11-13-2011, 02:04 AM

definitely a good fight... Marquez did a good job but couldn't convince the judges he was the better man tonight. GO PACMAN!

fercho · 11-13-2011, 02:11 AM

In my opinion Marquez won the fight (again)

Kensta335 · 11-13-2011, 02:18 AM

Thought it was a boring fight compared to the first 2. Looked like JMM had this fight. I think he got robbed.

choicez · 11-13-2011, 02:19 AM

No way Vegas was going to let Marquez win in a decision. Too much money on the line for the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. I still thought Manny won by a slight margin. If you're going to beat the champ, you win decisively.

fercho · 11-13-2011, 02:21 AM

he totally got robbed, boxing is not the sport that used to be years ago, now is all about money and fame..

jlo834 · 11-13-2011, 04:33 AM

I wouldn't say jmm got robbed. Neither fighters looked convincing enough to be crowned a winner. If boxing was real this shouldve been another draw. Stats shows jmm was more efficient but pac shows he was the aggressor and both were just seriously back and forth with punches. Great fight imo.

Jmm shouldn't be saying he got robbed ...he didn't look anymore convincing than pacman to be crowned winner

darebornsolja · 11-13-2011, 12:05 PM

I agree, draw would have been fair.

The whole promotion of Mayweather v Pacquiao is just creating hype for Vegas to make a lot of more $$$. Boxing has gradually been declining in quality and character. I am rooting for it to make a comeback.

infinitekid2002 · 11-13-2011, 12:10 PM

Great fight no matter what..not much if anything separates these guys. Draw would have been fair but if anything i think Marquez won but i'm not a professional judge so what do i know. Early it was Pacman but i think most of the late rounds were Marquez to me.

ideliver · 11-13-2011, 12:30 PM

a few thoughts...

1. it is very difficult to win if you are going backwards the entire fight without a knock down

2. the volume of manny's punches continues to be impressive

3. JMM is a naturally bigger fight...he should be able to catch Manny at some point in time with a counter punch that floors Manny...especially given the volume of punches that Manny throws...that fact that he didn't lends support to the boxing skills of Manny (or the lack thereof of JMM)

Boxtyp3 · 11-13-2011, 12:50 PM

I agree that JMM has cleaner punches thereby having the higher percentage. But the thing that counts is the total landed which I think goes to Pacman due to the volume of punches he threw. IMO, the decision is good.

choicez · 11-13-2011, 01:10 PM

Here's the fight if you missed it.

http://mmamayhem.com/news.php?extend.3613.1

merchomini · 11-13-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

i can't wait till pacman cleans mayweather's clock...

meeee to.....i think pacman will tear him apart to....his form is to undisciplined compared to pacs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

+1 It will never happen, he will never fight him unless his pretty undefeated record is magically erased by some other fighter.

^^ i agree.....this is a unicorn fight...mythical

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxtyp3

I agree that JMM has cleaner punches thereby having the higher percentage. But the thing that counts is the total landed which I think goes to Pacman due to the volume of punches he threw. IMO, the decision is good.

Well you they wouldnt give it to marques if it was as close as it was..... manny is the champ...to un seat him from his throne ur gonna have to do more than maybe box him to a draw...if the punches landed and what not were even one punch better than marquezs they would giv it to pac...... i think it was a good fight and a good decision.

not to mention both of these guys got paiddddd a nice amount so no one realllly lost

elektra_e90 · 11-13-2011, 01:45 PM

robbed or not, marquez should just suck it up. if marquez want a clear win, he should have knocked pacman out cold then there will be no questions asked.

marquez walked away with $5M+ and already got some good cars lined up in your garage, so suck it up!

import36 · 11-14-2011, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ideliver

a few thoughts...

1. it is very difficult to win if you are going backwards the entire fight without a knock down

2. the volume of manny's punches continues to be impressive

3. JMM is a naturally bigger fight...he should be able to catch Manny at some point in time with a counter punch that floors Manny...especially given the volume of punches that Manny throws...that fact that he didn't lends support to the boxing skills of Manny (or the lack thereof of JMM)

bingo.

i'm a big Pacman fan...but was not impressed with the fight. however, i don't understand the folks that say JMM should've won when he spent the entire fight going backwards. he was never the agressor, spent the entire fight backpeddling(counterpunching was his gameplan...i know), and never landed a hard enough shot to even wobble Pacman. both fighters landed some clean shots, but when you're the challenger, you've got to fight to TAKE the belt. JMM clearly did not do this.

ilidon · 11-14-2011, 08:23 PM

This will change your opinions on why the fight was that close.
http://mattscradle.com/2011/11/14/ju...rquez-3-fight/

infinitekid2002 · 11-15-2011, 12:33 PM

Across the pond they're pretty convinced Marquez won, and yes when you're boxing toes get stepped on:

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/121361.html

"Juan Manuel Marquez won his WBO welterweight title fight against Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas at the weekend, there's no doubt about that. He was robbed. I watched it twice, and both times I gave it to Marquez nine rounds to three or possibly eight-four."

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11-13-2011, 12:10 PM	#30
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ilidon Corporal Drives: E92 ///M Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 940 iTrader: (9) Garage List 2009 335i [3.50]	This will change your opinions on why the fight was that close. http://mattscradle.com/2011/11/14/ju...rquez-3-fight/ __________________ 2010 E92 ///M3 AW/FRE 2009 E92 335i- SOLD

11-15-2011, 12:33 PM	#38
infinitekid2002 Creepin while ya sleepin Drives: Like a Bat out of Hell Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: City of Angels Posts: 3,245 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 135i [3.71]	Across the pond they're pretty convinced Marquez won, and yes when you're boxing toes get stepped on: http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/121361.html "Juan Manuel Marquez won his WBO welterweight title fight against Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas at the weekend, there's no doubt about that. He was robbed. I watched it twice, and both times I gave it to Marquez nine rounds to three or possibly eight-four." __________________

11-13-2011, 02:11 AM	#24
fercho Lieutenant Drives: 2005 z4 2.5 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 437 iTrader: (1)	In my opinion Marquez won the fight (again)

11-13-2011, 02:18 AM	#25
Kensta335 Brigadier General Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal 626 Posts: 3,616 iTrader: (4)	Thought it was a boring fight compared to the first 2. Looked like JMM had this fight. I think he got robbed.

11-13-2011, 02:19 AM	#26
choicez Major Drives: you mad Join Date: May 2009 Location: LA Posts: 1,055 iTrader: (12)	No way Vegas was going to let Marquez win in a decision. Too much money on the line for the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. I still thought Manny won by a slight margin. If you're going to beat the champ, you win decisively.

11-13-2011, 02:21 AM	#27
fercho Lieutenant Drives: 2005 z4 2.5 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 437 iTrader: (1)	he totally got robbed, boxing is not the sport that used to be years ago, now is all about money and fame..

11-13-2011, 04:33 AM	#28
jlo834 bleeds purple and gold Drives: 325i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The I.E. Posts: 154 iTrader: (3)	I wouldn't say jmm got robbed. Neither fighters looked convincing enough to be crowned a winner. If boxing was real this shouldve been another draw. Stats shows jmm was more efficient but pac shows he was the aggressor and both were just seriously back and forth with punches. Great fight imo. Jmm shouldn't be saying he got robbed ...he didn't look anymore convincing than pacman to be crowned winner

11-13-2011, 12:05 PM	#29
darebornsolja First Lieutenant Drives: e92 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arcadia Posts: 307 iTrader: (0)	I agree, draw would have been fair. The whole promotion of Mayweather v Pacquiao is just creating hype for Vegas to make a lot of more $$$. Boxing has gradually been declining in quality and character. I am rooting for it to make a comeback.

11-13-2011, 12:50 PM	#32
Boxtyp3 Captain Drives: E82AW N54/ e92 BSM N55 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 745 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 135i [0.00] 2013 E92 335i [0.00]	I agree that JMM has cleaner punches thereby having the higher percentage. But the thing that counts is the total landed which I think goes to Pacman due to the volume of punches he threw. IMO, the decision is good.

11-13-2011, 01:10 PM	#33
choicez Major Drives: you mad Join Date: May 2009 Location: LA Posts: 1,055 iTrader: (12)	Here's the fight if you missed it. http://mmamayhem.com/news.php?extend.3613.1

11-13-2011, 01:45 PM	#35
elektra_e90 Private First Class Drives: 06 330i electric red Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: sf bay area, ca Posts: 107 iTrader: (0) Garage List 06 330i [0.00]	robbed or not, marquez should just suck it up. if marquez want a clear win, he should have knocked pacman out cold then there will be no questions asked. marquez walked away with $5M+ and already got some good cars lined up in your garage, so suck it up!

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