*OFFICIAL* general cinematography conversation thread

[rodi]

The Doctor hath spoken.

[Chewy734]

Thank you professor. How do you teach your kids?

[bluespeed117]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

There is no single "right way" of learning. Something that works for someone may not work for someone else. Personally, I like to learn by fiddling around with stuff and learning by making mistakes and then practicing.

completely agree, i just need the camera to mess around with.

[kamek]

Originally Posted by dcstep

What are some good online resources for the beginning videographer, that has the cameras, but only stills experience?

I have ab5D MkII, a 7D and some really decent lenses, but I've only done a few minutes of video. I spend so much time on my stills that I know that I'll have to carve out video time to get any good at it.

Dave

Dave,

Use your existing knowledge of photography to compose your shots! A lot of what you already know for your stills will transfer over to video. Watch videos (good videos), pay attention to details and techniques (smooth pans, transitions, music synchronization, etc), and try to pick out what looks good and what doesn't. Compile all the knowledge and try to implement it in your own shoots. Soon enough you'll find your own groove.

A lot of great videos are featured on the Vimeo home page -- www.vimeo.com

As for getting started, help can be sought from various tutorials found through Google or YouTube. For example, you could use Google to search "how to convert DSLR footage for editing," and you'll turn up some sites that'll teach you how to convert your camera footage into an editable format (e.g. using Apple Compressor to convert footage into Apple ProRes format to be edited in Final Cut). You can then use YouTube and find videos for "Final Cut basics," which will have useful tips to get you working your way around the software.

I've heard that www.nofilmschool.com is a useful resource, but I've never actually browsed the site.

There's also www.cheesycam.com which is a site that finds alternative/cheaper solutions for expensive film equipment.

Many effect tutorials can be found on YouTube.

Also, I have a 5D2 and 7D, too. Though the footage is comparable in terms of quality, I'm sure you already know that colors vary from cam to cam. I've found that it's difficult to get the two to match colors perfectly, but I've gotten them close by using WB shift.

Originally Posted by bluespeed117

Ive been through school and have shot many things. I dont have my own camera though. No need to be arrogant about anything man.

I'm over it. Truce?

[rodi]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Thank you professor. How do you teach your kids?

osmosis?

[rodi]

36 more hours. . . .

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Personally, I like to learn by fiddling around with stuff and learning by making mistakes and then practicing.

That works for just about everything except aeronautics, surgery, and ordinance disposal.

[kamek]

Originally Posted by rodi

36 more hours. . . .

After my shoot with Tony Bennett tomorrow, I can kick back, relax, and wait for Canon's announcement

Ryan, can you please check my PM when you get a chance?

[Chewy734]

Originally Posted by rodi

osmosis?

If only it were that easy

Originally Posted by M_Six

That works for just about everything except aeronautics, surgery, and ordinance disposal.

You mean you haven't heard of exploratory surgery?

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

You mean you haven't heard of exploratory surgery?

Well it is called practicing medicine.

[Chewy734]

good observation.

[rodi]

Originally Posted by kamek

After my shoot with Tony Bennett tomorrow, I can kick back, relax, and wait for Canon's announcement

Ryan, can you please check my PM when you get a chance?

fixed.

[Chewy734]

Originally Posted by rodi

fixed.

and yet you didn't change a thing?

[rodi]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

and yet you didn't change a thing?

fixed = replied. sorry. lots of that behind-the-counter sudafed stuff today. :cough:

[Chewy734]

http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/11/canon-eos-300c-cr1/

Received some information about the new video camera that is being announced today in Hollywood.

Name: Canon EOS 300C
EF and PL Versions
Dual CF Card Slots
Built in ND
Super35 Sensor
HDMI and HDSDI out
Hot shoe mounted monitor w/ 2 XLR ins
1920 x 1080 resolution
Also is able to record out of SDI

[Chewy734]

5 more hours!

[rodi]

$10k is far too much for what the rumors are giving as specs. especially if it has an EOS name and the same limitations in video that EOS cameras must have versus the Canon Video department.

[Chewy734]

don't get your panties in a bunch just yet rodi... they haven't released the official specs or the pricing info. Everything up until now has been rumors.

[Chewy734]

for those of you who are interested in the sample movies from the new Cinema EOS system:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/cinemaeos/

[Chewy734]

RED Scarlet SPECS: 5K stills: 12fps HDRx: 6fps 4K video: 1-25FPS 4K QuadHD: 30fps 3K: 48FPS 2K: 60FPS 1K: 120FPS. Base INCLUDES: Brain, Side SSD. $9750. The full kit is just under $14k.

[kamek]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

RED Scarlet SPECS: 5K stills: 12fps HDRx: 6fps 4K video: 1-25FPS 4K QuadHD: 30fps 3K: 48FPS 2K: 60FPS 1K: 120FPS. Base INCLUDES: Brain, Side SSD. $9750. The full kit is just under $14k.

IMO, RED won today. Looks like Jim Jannard (RED CEO) won't be retiring after all. Very excited for the Scarlet.

[Chewy734]

yeah, agreed. The Scarlet is a great camera for an awesome price.