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10182011, 07:05 PM  #23 
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Now we're having an intelligent discussion. Thanks for all the info on the subject... Keep discussing
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10182011, 07:29 PM  #24 
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People fail to account for one major factor when comparing 18's to 19's. I think it has been agreed upon and the truth is that the mass furthest from the hub/center is the most detrimental mass on the wheel as it effects moment of inertia and thus acceleration/stopping of the wheel.
18s would clearly be better given the same mass if they ran on no tires, however keeping total diameter the same, 18's will have thicker sidewall tires that have a mass of 24 pounds heavier per tire and this mass is at the very furthest point from the center, making the wheel mass itself the much less detrimental aspect of the rotational mass. All being equal if you found a tire that weighed the same in 18 as 19 than yes lighter 18inch wheels would be better. To make up for the extra pounds in sidewall at the very furthest distance from the center, you have to makeup that weight in the 18's so that they cannot just be lighter but needs to be signifigantly lighter per wheel to make up for the difference and start to show any benefit. 
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You underestimate the impact of the MoI compared to the impact of unsprung weight. The MoI impacts the vehicle in far greater proportion than the actual weight of the wheel / tire combination. Any reduction of wheel weight is comparatively reduced by the action of the spring and damper according to the standard equation of motion (vibrations simplified: F(t) = mass*accel + velocity*damping + susp_travel*springrate). By comparison, the MoI impacts the amount of work required to accelerate as follows: KE_rot = 1/2*MoI*w^2, where w is, essentially, the RPM of the wheel. All this isn't to say that lighter isn't better than not. But, just because you see 'lighter,' don't automatically assume better.
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assuming both rims are the same style. which on this car they are not.
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10192011, 06:53 AM  #28 
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This is all a game of assuming things to simplify the equation. Nobody here seems to care about getting precise, fullyderived answers  they just want a Yes or a No or a generalized statement to feel better. So I ballparked it. Of course there are assumptions there that are either wrong or incomplete.
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because there is better selection of tire and size for 18" track wheels.
unsprung weight and all that other crap is minimal at best. 18" for size availability and also the tires are cheaper than 19. 
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That's what I think, it's more about price and selection, the performance criteria is minimal at best, but then again, I'll be trying to shave a few seconds off of my laptimes so this might be something to consider. Once again, the better driver trumps all these "mods"
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That may be the case  I don't know for sure. But if we're talking track, like the title implied, I was thinking he'd be going aftermarket to really get into the big weight loss numbers.
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I tried 275/40 in 18" vs. 275/35 in 19". Let me know if you found the result to be otherwise. I am not talking about R comp or any type of super sticky tire that people do not use on the street... if cost is a concern/reason to go 18"s. sorry just found this thread interesting. I know it is old. Thanks in advance for educating a newb. 

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The 19" 359's due to their superior concavity, are more streamlined and thus experience less wind resistance for maximum acceleration and sustained speed.

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Lots of theoretical advantages, but lets me honest, 99% of track rats won't be able to tell a difference. BUT they will notice the cheaper 18" rubber and be able to run NT01's for cheap!
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

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