This is why I will only buy JWL certified wheels. - Page 2

ADV.1 Matt · 10-14-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMM3

Post them.

I'll see if I can dig up our TUV certification as it was taken with the guys in Germany and isnt' a scanned copy. We don't want to post the scanned stuff publicly as it's too easy for any other wheel company to photochop out the name and doctor their own documents for their own use.

ADV.1 Matt · 10-14-2011, 11:38 AM

MR///M3 · 10-14-2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

carlitosz · 10-14-2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

I'll see if I can dig up our TUV certification as it was taken with the guys in Germany and isnt' a scanned copy. We don't want to post the scanned stuff publicly as it's too easy for any other wheel company to photochop out the name and doctor their own documents for their own use.

Matt,

1. You understand there are literally hundreds of TUV, SAE, JWL/VIA certifications out there and companies don't need the one from ADV.1 to copy it right?

2. That is not a TUV certification. That is a certificate of conformity. You should know the difference. A TUV certificate specifies a wheel has been tested, has passed, and has been registered/certified by TUV-Rheinland. It also certifies a wheel to an specific vehicle only which is why is so expensive.

A certificate of conformity is the manufacturer certifying that the products, in this case, wheels, have been tested to an specific standard (SAE/JWL/VIA or even your own) and the manufacturer signs and attests that to be true and valid. Your statement is misleading.

This a TUV Certificate:

1MOREMOD · 10-14-2011, 01:36 PM

mylydiamy · 10-14-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitosz

Matt,

1. You understand there are literally hundreds of TUV, SAE, JWL/VIA certifications out there and companies don't need the one from ADV.1 to copy it right?

2. That is not a TUV certification. That is a certificate of conformity. You should know the difference. A TUV certificate specifies a wheel has been tested, has passed, and has been registered/certified by TUV-Rheinland. It also certifies a wheel to an specific vehicle only which is why is so expensive.

A certificate of conformity is the manufacturer certifying that the products, in this case, wheels, have been tested to an specific standard (SAE/JWL/VIA or even your own) and the manufacturer signs and attests that to be true and valid. Your statement is misleading.

This a TUV Certificate:

I also think that two guys on the left of the picture are wearing fake watches

Templar · 10-14-2011, 01:47 PM

PINHEAD · 10-14-2011, 02:08 PM

and for EVERY wheel, not just ONE wheel.
Each design needs to be certified

Dave07997S · 10-14-2011, 02:45 PM

Forgestar is also a JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel..if that means anything.

aus · 10-14-2011, 04:00 PM

From what I understand, each size has to be tested too?
I think that's what Paintpro was saying about the Forgstar's on the first page.

inandout · 10-15-2011, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Forgestar is also a JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel..if that means anything.

Just because they say so on their website?

Eddy@ApexRaceParts · 10-15-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Forgestar is also a JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel..if that means anything.

unless something has recently changed, that is not correct.

SROC3 · 10-15-2011, 03:32 PM

oh snap.

STALKER · 10-15-2011, 04:11 PM

I had a set of HRE 441Rs on my old E46 M3 many years ago, and one of my rear rims cracked under normal use.
It was a big eye opener.

PINHEAD · 10-15-2011, 05:07 PM

hmm no response from ADV.1 yet..
I know for a fact they dont have a response yet, otherwise it would have been posted and Im sure they are monitoring this thread multiple times a day. They are scrambling pretty fast right now in Miami lol

montreal red · 10-15-2011, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitosz

Matt,

1. You understand there are literally hundreds of TUV, SAE, JWL/VIA certifications out there and companies don't need the one from ADV.1 to copy it right?

2. That is not a TUV certification. That is a certificate of conformity. You should know the difference. A TUV certificate specifies a wheel has been tested, has passed, and has been registered/certified by TUV-Rheinland. It also certifies a wheel to an specific vehicle only which is why is so expensive.

A certificate of conformity is the manufacturer certifying that the products, in this case, wheels, have been tested to an specific standard (SAE/JWL/VIA or even your own) and the manufacturer signs and attests that to be true and valid. Your statement is misleading.

This a TUV Certificate:

burned!

Beedub · 10-16-2011, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitosz

Matt,

1. You understand there are literally hundreds of TUV, SAE, JWL/VIA certifications out there and companies don't need the one from ADV.1 to copy it right?

2. That is not a TUV certification. That is a certificate of conformity. You should know the difference. A TUV certificate specifies a wheel has been tested, has passed, and has been registered/certified by TUV-Rheinland. It also certifies a wheel to an specific vehicle only which is why is so expensive.

A certificate of conformity is the manufacturer certifying that the products, in this case, wheels, have been tested to an specific standard (SAE/JWL/VIA or even your own) and the manufacturer signs and attests that to be true and valid. Your statement is misleading.

This a TUV Certificate:

Damn.... good info.... and very interesting...... you slapped them down harder than my girl slapped me down last night after i asked for sexy time......

on a more serious note, this is very important information and definatly makes me think long and hard about my wheel manufacturer choice...., i usually stick with BBS, but they are usually alittler heavier than the japaneese brands....... i think my oem CSLs weight in @ 25lbs for the 9.5-19" rim.

the infamous... · 10-16-2011, 11:38 AM

entertain'n thus far...

AMPowerJ · 10-16-2011, 07:27 PM

IBTL

isugoo · 10-17-2011, 12:57 AM

I hope someone makes:
JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel model/company list and mod sticky them just like wheel weight or rub/norub threads.

Just a thought.

ADV.1 Matt · 10-17-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

hmm no response from ADV.1 yet..
I know for a fact they dont have a response yet, otherwise it would have been posted and Im sure they are monitoring this thread multiple times a day. They are scrambling pretty fast right now in Miami lol

We're closed on the weekends... response coming shortly.

PINHEAD · 10-17-2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt

We're closed on the weekends... response coming shortly.

dont respond to me, respond to everyone else. and it shouldn't take ANY time for you guys to come up with the response. In my book, you already lost my business, no matter how you guys decide to respond.

10-14-2011, 01:36 PM	#27
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,494 iTrader: (3)	__________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

10-14-2011, 01:47 PM	#29
Templar Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,698 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [5.00]	__________________ '11 BMW E92 ///M3 - ZCP and DCT '11 Ford F-150 XLT - Supercrew, 4x4, Ecoboost V6, Chrome/Convenience Package, Tow Package

10-14-2011, 02:08 PM	#30
PINHEAD Motorsport Passion!!! Drives: E92M3/997.2RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 804 iTrader: (5)	and for EVERY wheel, not just ONE wheel. Each design needs to be certified __________________

10-14-2011, 02:45 PM	#31
Dave07997S Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 BMW M3 ZCP Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Playa del Rey, CA Posts: 1,973 iTrader: (0)	Forgestar is also a JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel..if that means anything. __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk Turner Test Pipes, AFE pulley, Megan Catback/AFE Stg.2. 255/285 tires. Previous Rides: 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk

10-14-2011, 04:00 PM	#32
aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,164 iTrader: (5)	From what I understand, each size has to be tested too? I think that's what Paintpro was saying about the Forgstar's on the first page. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

10-14-2011, 11:38 AM	#24
ADV.1 Matt Lieutenant Colonel Drives: N/A Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,513 iTrader: (0)

10-15-2011, 03:32 PM	#35
SROC3 The limit of adhesion is my home. Drives: 2012 E92 M3 JTBLK ZCP Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: three.one.zero Posts: 1,375 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW M3 [0.00]	oh snap. __________________ 2012 M3 E92 Jet Black Black Leather/DCT \| ZCP \| (Buy date 11/27/11) 2012 M3 E92 Jet Black Red Extended Leather/6MT \| Comp Package - RETIRED (Impulse Buy Date - 11/22/06) 335i E92/Space Grey/ Red Leather/6MT - RETIRED

10-15-2011, 04:11 PM	#36
STALKER Brigadier General Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,405 iTrader: (5)	I had a set of HRE 441Rs on my old E46 M3 many years ago, and one of my rear rims cracked under normal use. It was a big eye opener. __________________ 2008 AW/FR E90 M3-SOLD 2013 991 C4S-Produced, but not delivered.

10-15-2011, 05:07 PM	#37
PINHEAD Motorsport Passion!!! Drives: E92M3/997.2RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 804 iTrader: (5)	hmm no response from ADV.1 yet.. I know for a fact they dont have a response yet, otherwise it would have been posted and Im sure they are monitoring this thread multiple times a day. They are scrambling pretty fast right now in Miami lol __________________

10-16-2011, 11:38 AM	#40
the infamous... Lieutenant General Drives: like I'M BOUT THAT LIFE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PARADISE aka DAWNTOWN Posts: 16,890 iTrader: (0)	entertain'n thus far... __________________ "simple is clean" -The ///ModFather [ iND ] - [ eAs ] - [ ACM ] - [ LTMW ] - [ AA ]

10-16-2011, 07:27 PM	#41
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blythewood, SC Posts: 2,325 iTrader: (9) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 M3 [0.00] 2012 Toyota Tacoma [0.00]	IBTL __________________ 2013 E92 M3 with ESS VT2-585 SC, StopTech BBK, M Perf Exhaust, and a bunch of carbon fiber ...

10-17-2011, 12:57 AM	#42
isugoo Brigadier General Drives: 08 E90 Dinan M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 4,967 iTrader: (51)	I hope someone makes: JWL, VIA and SAE certified wheel model/company list and mod sticky them just like wheel weight or rub/norub threads. Just a thought. __________________ Dinan: Suspension, Software, Intake, Pulley, Struts \| BMW PF: C/F Trims, Splitters, Mirror Caps, Spoiler \| F+R Cameras \| Akrapovic Evo \| RE SSK \| TE37SL PAST: 03.5 Dinan Stage III E46 M3 \| 08 E92 335i \| 99 E36 M3 \| 03 Nismo R-Tune Z33 Fairlady Z

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search