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      10-06-2011, 05:02 PM   #1
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Blizzak WS-60 vs Hakkapalita R

I'm looking to get some winter tires to fit on my stock 18" OEM wheels. They are the gunmetal 8.5x18 front and 9.5x18 rear. Up here in Saskatchewan we start getting snow in November and it usually stays on the ground from December to March. We don't get large amounts of snow, but what we do get often doesn't melt. The lesser used residential roads can have packed snow and/or ice on them for weeks at a time. Even the more used roads often have ice at the corners. For these reasons I thought I best get a more dedicated winter tire instead of a performance winter tire.

I found a local shop that has the Hakkapalita R and they are available in 245/40-18 which will fit both front and back. The same shop also sells the WS-60 for the same price. However, I can order the WS-60 online for about 500$ less including taxes and installation. From what I've read the Hakkapalita sounds like a better tire overall. When new the performance sounds similar, but I've read the Blizzak's lose alot of their winter traction after a couple of seasons whereas the Hakkapalita's don't. The downsides to going with the Hakka's are the extra cost and the fact they are only available through Kal-Tire (Don't take appointments, everything is done first come first served which can be annoying).

Looking for some help or advise on which tire to go for.
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      10-06-2011, 05:33 PM   #2
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I've run the Hakka's in those size for the last three winters - they rock. Make no mistake, its like driving on marshmallows (esp for the first couple thousand miles) but worth it for the grip they give you that is far above what a performance winter provides. I haven't used the WS-60 but heard they are very good as well. I haven't heard of the grip loss you mention, but any snow tire will lose effectiveness over time (through wear and hardening of the compound.)

I will likely get another half winter out of my Hakkas before its time to replace them, though that is in part due to the relatively mild climate we have here (I use them because I drive in the mountains in the snow and wanted maximum traction.)
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      10-06-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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Same price for Hakka R and WS-60 sounds odd. Its either you got a very good price for the Hakka or over priced WS-60. I also looked into these 2 tires and I found the Hakka R to be much more expensive than the WS-60. I would shop around more, because it the price for the Hakka R is good then definitely go with the Hakka R

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I'm looking to get some winter tires to fit on my stock 18" OEM wheels. They are the gunmetal 8.5x18 front and 9.5x18 rear. Up here in Saskatchewan we start getting snow in November and it usually stays on the ground from December to March. We don't get large amounts of snow, but what we do get often doesn't melt. The lesser used residential roads can have packed snow and/or ice on them for weeks at a time. Even the more used roads often have ice at the corners. For these reasons I thought I best get a more dedicated winter tire instead of a performance winter tire.

I found a local shop that has the Hakkapalita R and they are available in 245/40-18 which will fit both front and back. The same shop also sells the WS-60 for the same price. However, I can order the WS-60 online for about 500$ less including taxes and installation. From what I've read the Hakkapalita sounds like a better tire overall. When new the performance sounds similar, but I've read the Blizzak's lose alot of their winter traction after a couple of seasons whereas the Hakkapalita's don't. The downsides to going with the Hakka's are the extra cost and the fact they are only available through Kal-Tire (Don't take appointments, everything is done first come first served which can be annoying).

Looking for some help or advise on which tire to go for.
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      10-07-2011, 02:26 PM   #4
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Hakka R just got voted the second best non-studded winter tire here in Norway for the fourth year in a row.

only Michelin X-Ice beats it on ice and less road noise.

I just ordered 2 sets. Def worth every penny of you are looking for snow performance and safe grip!

link to test: (norwegian but you can prob figure out the points)
http://naf.no/no/Forbrukertester/Dek...Piggfrie-dekk/

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Same price for Hakka R and WS-60 sounds odd. Its either you got a very good price for the Hakka or over priced WS-60. I also looked into these 2 tires and I found the Hakka R to be much more expensive than the WS-60. I would shop around more, because it the price for the Hakka R is good then definitely go with the Hakka R
We don't have many shops locally. Kal-Tire discounts the Nokians quite heavily to bring their prices in line with other brands. Online the Blizzaks are about 25% less. I can save about 500$ for the set if I order the Blizzaks online vs getting the Hakka's locally.
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