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      09-28-2011, 09:45 PM   #1
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Supercharger pro's and con's and who installs????

I have money saved up and am going to purchase a supercharge for my 2010 M3, (E92,DCT). I am looking for someone around Denver, CO to do an install? (if there is nobody who is close and good i am more than happy to road trip). Do any of you guys know who does a good job and can I get some pro's and con's on different chargers? Thank you guys for your help!!!
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Well, how much saved up? what's your budget?
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Do I dare say, or is someone going to try to rip me for that amount? I have enough to do any SC that I have looked at + about 3k. Maybe for install? Do you have an idea or what?
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Do a road trip out to LA and have the boys at Gintani install their kit for you, they have a dyno there as well so you can get everything done in one place.
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i would do an ESS kit
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is that what you are running Cptn?
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i would do an ESS kit
Which ESS would you do and where at?
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Do I dare say, or is someone going to try to rip me for that amount? I have enough to do any SC that I have looked at + about 3k. Maybe for install? Do you have an idea or what?
Well I asked cause for the bottom ESS kit, it's about $10k or so? haven't checked in a while

but then Gintani can go from 15-25k, depending on the kit

ESS can also get near 20k

G power is about 19k retail


10k vs 19k is a big difference, don't you agree?

But the ESS 535 kit, although great, will leave you wanting for more power (from what I've heard and read at least)

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Call all the Companies you like speak with them. Ask if they have a Dealer near you who could do a install and your ready. Some Pros better gas mileage and you'll be faster. Cons will need new tires faster lol.
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Well I asked cause for the bottom ESS kit, it's about $10k or so? haven't checked in a while

but then Gintani can go from 15-25k, depending on the kit

ESS can also get near 20k

G power is about 19k retail


10k vs 19k is a big difference, don't you agree?

But the ESS 525 kit, although great, will leave you wanting for more power (from what I've heard and read at least)

535 you mean ?!
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the only cons to a supercharger are the cost and potential imprisonment. gas mileage is the same under normal driving, but is a bit worse under spirited driving (the extra power obviously doesn't just come out of thin air).

there are a lot more pros though. I have the ESS 575 kit, and I can confidently say that I don't crave any more power. it's scary fast. unless you fit 305s or bigger in the rear, you won't have enough grip to put that kind of firepower down at any legal speed. I can't recommend the supercharger enough - you have to experience it to understand what everyone is talking about.

if you have it in your budget, there's no excuse not to get it. just do your research before deciding which kit is right for you. plenty of info available on this forum. below are a couple more detailed reviews I posted. good luck.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496580

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551151
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Here's the various ESS kits listed in the Dyno Database (www.bmwdynodatabase.com). I tried throwing out the outliers both top and bottom. All of these results come from a Dynojet with SAE correction.

ESS VT1-535 (~7 results):
454-490whp, 301-326wtq
http://www.****************/DynoDB.ph...1&EngFIOpts=60

ESS VT2-575 (~4 results):
455-481whp, 297-311wtq
http://www.****************/DynoDB.ph...1&EngFIOpts=61

ESS VT2-600 (~10 results):
510-580whp, 328-372wtq
http://www.****************/DynoDB.ph...1&EngFIOpts=89

ESS VT2-625 (~5 results):
558-594whp, 375-381wtq
http://www.****************/DynoDB.ph...&EngFIOpts=146

ESS VT2-650 (1 result):
604whp, 386wtq
http://www.****************/DynoDB.ph...&EngFIOpts=153
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Shot me a pm if you need any help. We offer car transport and would be more than happy to get your M sent up here for the install. We use two BMW master techs for the SC install that have installed the most ESS kits in the US.

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535 you mean ?!
Yeah


I have said that I don't know much about s/c kits as I do other stuff lol
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You should look into doing the ESS kit. If you are on a budget you can have a VT1-535 installed for less than 10K or if you want big power they have options up to VT2-650. From the looks of DSLJ5's motor build thread it looks like very soon they will have extreme setups available also.
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I have said that I don't know much about s/c kits as I do other stuff lol
Haha,didnt mean it in a bad way man
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Thats what I was thinking...LOL! There is no down side to it is there? What kind of SC do you run?

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the only cons to a supercharger are the cost and potential imprisonment. gas mileage is the same under normal driving, but is a bit worse under spirited driving (the extra power obviously doesn't just come out of thin air).

there are a lot more pros though. I have the ESS 575 kit, and I can confidently say that I don't crave any more power. it's scary fast. unless you fit 305s or bigger in the rear, you won't have enough grip to put that kind of firepower down at any legal speed. I can't recommend the supercharger enough - you have to experience it to understand what everyone is talking about.

if you have it in your budget, there's no excuse not to get it. just do your research before deciding which kit is right for you. plenty of info available on this forum. below are a couple more detailed reviews I posted. good luck.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496580

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551151


Thank you for the straight answer! Do you know how much HP the DCT will handle?

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Thats what I was thinking...LOL! There is no down side to it is there? What kink do you have?
Downside is you will go through tires faster, and your gf will probably break up with you cause A) you will be spending your time driving the car rather than giving her 'rides' B) you will be in love with the car more than with her

OR she may stay with you cause.... the surge of acceleration etc will give her pleasures beyond her craziest dreams


Point being, no there are no real negatives of having a S/C if you have the $$ for it
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Point being, no there are no real negatives of having a S/C if you have the $$ for it
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