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      09-21-2011, 11:50 AM   #221
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Stock dudes...can you please give me some information on what you think about this company called Cyberdefenders, Inc. CYDE

Company looks like it's tanking and won't be around much longer...unless i'm missing something like the invested some huge amount which will reap in profits later...

Share dropped from about $4 to about 30 cents in the last year. They also settled a $9 settlement against them for improper product design...they have a serious operating loss for this year and last...anything im missing or is this company going belly up?
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      09-21-2011, 12:56 PM   #223
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My friend, nothings grows forever. When the apples are already matures they fall to the ground. And bears love apples.
LMFAO that has been one of the funniest things I've read all week certainly this is Javi's Magnum Opus
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      09-21-2011, 12:59 PM   #224
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Stock dudes...can you please give me some information on what you think about this company called Cyberdefenders, Inc. CYDE

Company looks like it's tanking and won't be around much longer...unless i'm missing something like the invested some huge amount which will reap in profits later...

Share dropped from about $4 to about 30 cents in the last year. They also settled a $9 settlement against them for improper product design...they have a serious operating loss for this year and last...anything im missing or is this company going belly up?
That sounds like an awful company record... And judging by the name it sounds like a small cap company that tried to break into the already overcrowded, over-dominated anti-virus market. Do you have investments in this?
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      09-21-2011, 01:00 PM   #225
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I don't have investment in it..thanks for the info Vanity.
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Proof that it doesnt matter how great a company is when the bears want blood they will get it...when bull rectum linings are lying on the floor, AAPL will need Preparation H too.



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Dont get me wrong, AAPL is a awesome company...I own 5 apple computers, 4 iphones, an Ipad and 3 ipods....

The thing is this, not to sound like a insensitive jerk, but when Steve Jobs "goes" AAPl days are numbered,...not because they arent a great company, but because like all great hitters in baseball or great QB's in the NFL, you cannot keep it up a "great" run forever...AAPL is selling dream, a way of life...much beyond technical gadgetry...when Jobs goes, at some point AAPL will follow...MSFT and INTC have tons of cash ...so does GGOG...but at some tipping point, the weight they carry on their shoulders is too much for anyone...and once you are out of wallstreets favor, they never come back to you ala MSFT, CSCO, INTC.

Ya see, I know its hard to imagine AAPL falling hard but sometimes it has nothing to do with cash, products, sales or user expereince...for example, during early 08' AAPL trading at 200.00....then by yrs end it was near 85.00...did AAPL suck during this period?..nope, they still had the best ipods, computers, iphones, etc...and yes iphone was out during the bear selloff...my point, when mkts enter the bear, even a great company like AAPL wont be immune...stock price doesnt reflect how great a company is, it has only to do with supply-demand of the stock.
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      09-21-2011, 03:31 PM   #227
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Good day to be in the market if you had FAZ. It was sitting at a 3.60% gain 2 minutes before bernankes meeting. Had u of picked it up after the news came out, bam another 10% in less than 2 hours. After hour trading also showing signs of tmrs market going down.
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LMFAO that has been one of the funniest things I've read all week certainly this is Javi's Magnum Opus
The moral of the story is: be a bear cub my friend



but dont stay on top when momma start to shake it!

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      09-21-2011, 04:02 PM   #229
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by the way, Bernanke is cleary a puppet on strings of Greenspan, who is in turn also of the brains in the shadow of all this circus.
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right before close? what a damn coincidence! isnt?
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I jumped into apple at $414. I have some puts in place as insurance but I'm going to let things roll on from here until November. It discerns me however that it ended down from yesterday....
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Well, Octuber and November used to be rising market months ... fuc* knows now. Since the Lehman affair i mostly trade as Rambo lives. Day by Day, (shorts by shorts)
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I'm pretty sure today marked the real moment in which we begin plunging down past the 1100 mark on the S&P. I'm figuring we end up somewhere in the 900-1030 range for a bit, like how we have been stuck in the 1100-1250 range for the past month and a half.
Let's face the reality that Bernanke and higher powers today compromised with the twist. I was still expecting QE3. It didn't happen. Not only is the next Fed meeting in November (too little, too late) but from today until then, I can only see the markets going down. Where can we look now for any growth? Obama's 400 billion job plan that will be dead- on-arrival next YEAR? The fact that, after this, I really can't see how any external force is gonna regather confidence in the corporate sector whom at least now, is still reporting healthy quarterly earnings but sooner or later won't be. And let's not even consider how much of a political mess the next elections are gonna be in stirring this economy through volatility.

And Greece is gonna default. Spain and Italy are almost there today, Let's not even talk about what shape they'll be in a few months down the road when greece debt blows up. France currently holds most of this toxic Greek debt, so expect the seconds biggest economy in Europe to face some heavy issues of it's own soon. French banks are being downgraded left, right and centre. Does the world really expect Germany to bailout everybody? The German people would gladly riot, and believe me those riots are getting very popular nowadays.


But hey, when all this is said and done, let's hope there's a ton of money to be made on the way back up. But hopefully this next economic downturn won't be on any level close to the depression (which some saying are saying worse than). Because if it is, the great depression lasted 13 years and took a world war to get out of. I'd hate to invest a market that might be down for thirteen years.... I wonder if the European Union will break up when this happens so they can start printing money like the US.

Get your children ready as barter objects!!!! /rant
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Proof that it doesnt matter how great a company is when the bears want blood they will get it...when bull rectum linings are lying on the floor, AAPL will need Preparation H too.
Yeah, but it will go down less like it did today. AAPL hit new highs amidst all of this turmoil..
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Yeah, but it will go down less like it did today. AAPL hit new highs amidst all of this turmoil..
That happened largely in part because 1) Goldman sachs and other firms reiterated buy ratings on aapl this week, they also raised price targets and they all collectively tried to push retail investors into buying. And 2) the main reason was, because iPhone 5 is coming out and you are seeing profiteering. The minute that news comes out the stock is gonna surge like a bull on roids. Then you will see profit taking and a stock decline, tho how big I dunno. Not too sure how sane it is thinking apple is a safe haven like gold.
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Oh man you must've been slaughtered. Did you get hurt really badly with it or you don't have any long positions?
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If 1140 doesnt hold we will undercut 1100...then short term rally again followed by "big" selloff into Nov.

Only when we undercut 1000 will Bernanke throw in the towel and initiate QE3 to offer some relief.

Yeah buying long term debt for short term debt to lower interest rates(operation oliver twist haha) really gonna do anything....

We are at 60 yr lows on interest rates ya dummy Ben...people and businesses arent borrowing because interest rates are too high, its because banks wont make stupid loans anymore and businesses only borrow and expand when there is true growth in demand and revenues, not because interest rates are low.

Only people who love zero % interest are the ones who see and get the money first...banks!...its easy to make money when you can borrow 100B at zero % interest and buy up short term debt paying even few % pts ...its a no risk game for the banks...so why would banks take a big risk and lend to the avg Joe???.

It takes a meltdown before people start to question how things work...if you a hardcore demo or repub, then you are being spoon fed bs...there is no major differences between either party...its always been of the major(ultra wealthy) haves and have nots.

Mark my words, there will come a time when you see rioting in our streets... not by the outliers of society or students, but rather by the teachers, firemen, cops, mom/pops...when you fark with someones family or someones money is the only time people will revolt...soon enough they will fark with both...now you dont really think there is any money in social security...are PERS plans abit under-funded?...hmmm...gonna get ugly when the states have to tell the socialized retirees " we were just kidding".
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Definitly we dont like twist dance in Europe.

Lets check grounds, movements, fibonacci retracements timing... the road maps being written these days for the next months.

I love the smell of the crash in the morning.

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