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      09-20-2011, 01:10 AM   #1
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They should have brought the M3 GTS from BMW.

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They should have brought the M3 GTS from BMW.

Cool video... Some bad ass cars but I wish they used the M3 instead of the 1M, even though performance times are similar....
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so far i've watched the car intro's. the bmw 1M has no business in this lineup.
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Cool video... Some bad ass cars but I wish they used the M3 instead of the 1M, even though performance times are similar....
If i am not mistaking, M3 GTS quarter mile is close to 12 seconds.
And GTR is an amazing car, not a lot of cars can keep up with that!
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If i am not mistaking, M3 GTS quarter mile is close to 12 seconds.
And GTR is an amazing car, not a lot of cars can keep up with that!
Oh dont get me wrong, the GTS is bad ass and should definitly be in that race before a regular M3.... I was comapring the M3 and 1M, not the GTS... Sorry for mix up...
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This race was such a waste of time.
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hmm interesting... the z06's usually go 11.7... gtr's are monsters, but for some reason i hate them...
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so far i've watched the car intro's. the bmw 1M has no business in this lineup.
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hmm interesting... the z06's usually go 11.7... gtr's are monsters, but for some reason i hate them...
I thought z06 should do better too
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Pretty sweet video...but what's the point of drag racing the best "driver's" cars when the quarter mile matters so little to the "driver" as opposed to the stop light drag racer.
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Agree the 1 m had no business to be in this line up, obviously the organizers have something against BMW even to consider the 1 m to be in that category of cars. What a waste of time.

Besides as most of us know, much depends on the driver and his reaction time right from the start as was so obvious watching this from the word go ... it proved nothing, nothing at all.
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Who cares about the 1M not fittling. The sounds those cars made....Dear God!
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so since 1M faster than M3, it would have been in last place...i guess thats why they chose not to feature the M3 in this vid...we werent special enough =(

it was a cool video tho..shoulda had the M3 there..they did have 2 pcars..why not 2 bimmers?
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I think it may have come down to what press cars were available from BMW. That 1M seems to be making the rounds. Great video though and interesting to see all those machines in one place.
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Agree the 1 m had no business to be in this line up, obviously the organizers have something against BMW even to consider the 1 m to be in that category of cars. What a waste of time.
You're kidding, right?

They brought their available cars, and stated up front that it was more or less meaningless, but that they could do it, so what the heck.

What were they supposed to do to appease the faithful? Import an (illegal in this country) GTS? Maybe run a regular M3?

If so, the GTS would've placed eighth amongst these eleven cars (just ahead of the Boss 302), while a properly equipped M3 would be ninth - just behind the Ford. Each instead of the tenth place occupied by the the 1M. Big deal.

What about Porsche? They have two cars that would be just about at the top of the heap (911 Turbo and GT2). Those cars were missing, and would've made a big difference. What about Chevrolet? The ZR-1 would be at or near the top, as well.

Does Motor Trend also hate Porsche and Chevy?

Give me a break.

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Besides as most of us know, much depends on the driver and his reaction time right from the start as was so obvious watching this from the word go ... it proved nothing, nothing at all.
These cars were timed via GPS, which is how Motor trend times all their cars. The precise time each car launched is immaterial - except for the footage. Their elapsed times for the quarter mile were reported, not who won that particular pass and by how much. Note how far back the Lotus was. Is that a tenth of a second behind the 1M?

The only deviation from standard was that the cars were run on a dusty runway, and their elapsed times tended to suffer a bit, by and large.

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You're kidding, right?

They brought their available cars, and stated up front that it was more or less meaningless, but that they could do it, so what the heck.

What were they supposed to do to appease the faithful? Import an (illegal in this country) GTS? Maybe run a regular M3?

If so, the GTS would've placed eighth amongst these eleven cars (just ahead of the Boss 302), while a properly equipped M3 would be ninth - just behind the Ford. Each instead of the tenth place occupied by the the 1M. Big deal.

What about Porsche? They have two cars that would be just about at the top of the heap (911 Turbo and GT2). Those cars were missing, and would've made a big difference. What about Chevrolet? The ZR-1 would be at or near the top, as well.

Does Motor Trend also hate Porsche and Chevy?

Give me a break.



These cars were timed via GPS, which is how Motor trend times all their cars. The precise time each car launched is immaterial - except for the footage. Their elapsed times for the quarter mile were reported, not who won that particular pass and by how much. Note how far back the Lotus was. Is that a tenth of a second behind the 1M?

The only deviation from standard was that the cars were run on a dusty runway, and their elapsed times tended to suffer a bit, by and large.

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Hi Bruce,

I certainly am not a track guy nor do I claim to know it all. I only meant what had the 1 M to contribute in this exercise? The 1 M is certainly a nice car, however, against all the others in the line up had nothing to contribute. Besides in the straight away many cars are superior to even faster cars then the ones listed. In the corners as we both know is where the races are won.

Besides I was thinking of the BMW Team RLL driver Joey Hand when he drove the M3 GT a few days ago. Bet he would not have come in second last as did the 1 M

Then I stand to be corrected, after all we do learn by our mistakes
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