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      09-15-2011, 03:24 PM   #177
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Netflix got hammered. Any news out of Europe that might affect markets tomorrow? I don't know how to judge the markets short term...
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      09-15-2011, 07:22 PM   #178
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I'm going to enter a butterfly put spread on Netflix. You should try it out...
What I'm doing is:
Buy to open October 165 strike puts
Sell to open October 150 strike puts
Buy to open October 135 strike puts.

And I'd have a ratio of 1 for the 165 puts, a 2 ratio for the 150 puts and a 1 ratio of the 135 puts. Hope I make me some money!
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      09-16-2011, 10:54 AM   #179
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Gave the bear call on 9/8 before ES promptly fell 50 pts...then gave bullish warning(selling pressure should ease soon) on 9/9...went long at end of day on 9/9 at 1140 ES, ES now up 65 pts at 1205.

Any of you mofo's making any on here?....
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      09-16-2011, 03:43 PM   #180
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S&P must break and hold 1235ish next week. If not, don't be optimistic. Hopefully when the fed releases their speech on Wednesday they will announce QE3.


S&P sitting at 1216 at the moment.
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Netflix got hammered. Any news out of Europe that might affect markets tomorrow? I don't know how to judge the markets short term...
i was telling people to not buy it....those who didn't listen.... :/

they're like "it'll go to 250 in oct!" I'm like...no it won't...
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Netflix got hammered. Any news out of Europe that might affect markets tomorrow? I don't know how to judge the markets short term...
i was telling people to not buy it....those who didn't listen.... :/

they're like "it'll go to 250 in oct!" I'm like...no it won't...
Lol. I put a put on it as soon as I heard about their rate hike.
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Monday Obama will introduce new tax hike. Wednesday the fed will introduce (possibly) "operational twist", and Friday there will be a 190 country attendance for the IMF and world bank annual meetings. Hrmmmm, so many places for the economy to tank or go up lol......
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Monday Obama will introduce new tax hike. Wednesday the fed will introduce (possibly) "operational twist", and Friday there will be a 190 country attendance for the IMF and world bank annual meetings. Hrmmmm, so many places for the economy to tank or go up lol......
Tax hikes mean stocks go down, Wednesday they might go up and Friday there might be a glimmer of hope and we'll be up 80 points but then we'll end down 200 after the meeting. Oh, and NFLX will be going down until the CEOs decide to lower the subscription rates, that'll jump start the stock again.
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Tax hikes mean stocks go down, Wednesday they might go up and Friday there might be a glimmer of hope and we'll be up 80 points but then we'll end down 200 after the meeting. Oh, and NFLX will be going down until the CEOs decide to lower the subscription rates, that'll jump start the stock again.
I wish the market would just decidedly crash already. Greece is inevitably going to have to default. All they're doing is propping Athens up for the entire EU to fail. Letting it default now would be more cost-effective imo.
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Dumped all TNA and TYH at the open(protecting nice gains there)...should see trend day down unless major recovery takes place within next 25 minutes, which is doubtful given Asia and Europe.


Downside risk is at 1170ES and then 1140ES...see selling for 1st half of this week then one last push to make final high near 1250...if we cant get to 1250 things gonna get ugly real fast...ugly is where we are headed imho just a matter of time.
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Holy shit apple. Everything is down three percent this thing is up 3. It's $410. Still too high to buy or buy now?
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Holy shit apple. Everything is down three percent this thing is up 3. It's $410. Still too high to buy or buy now?
Much to high to buy ATM. It will drop, do not worry.

Cnbc reporting today that the enticing low p/e ratios of company stocks right now might vanish soon if earnings begin to diminish from the hit of the coming recession. Stocks look cheap now, but when that earnings sheet goes down soon, you're gonna jam yourself in an overpriced stock. Be patient grasshopper. Besides, every ten point spread on aapl has resistance, usually. It's already come down from $410. Be patient. Aapl has Hit $356 levels twice in the last month, and we aren't even in the thick of things ATM.
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I wish the market would just decidedly crash already. Greece is inevitably going to have to default. All they're doing is propping Athens up for the entire EU to fail. Letting it default now would be more cost-effective imo.
Greece should not fall
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Aapl finished at $411. Anyways the Greeks should receive a phone call by the IMF chief and other big names on their future. When will they though, tonight? I hope Greece just declares bankruptcy to show the world socialism doesn't work. Oh and I also want the markets to fall, lol.
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Holy shit apple. Everything is down three percent this thing is up 3. It's $410. Still too high to buy or buy now?
That's nice but chipotle (CMG) was peaking at 6 % today, it closed just under 5.7%
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AAPL is going to $500 or higher and really nothing is going to stop them. I've said in previous threads they are a screaming buy under $400.

I know it "looks" like a short, but they have the earnings, growth, and cash to back it up. They still don't trade at a huge premium and even after the run is a stock I'd rather own than something like NFLX at $140.

The demand for iPhone 5 is incredible...all the research, even freaking twitter is constantly blowing up about "wen duz da iphone 5 come out." Seriously, search iphone 5 at Twitter and see how much it's being discussed. It's insane.

I think the action today proves someone knows something we all don't know...yet.
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Well I'll still wait for a dip before I buy. Hopefully the dip doesn't happen when apples at $430 and it just goes down to $420 or something. When does the iPhone 5 release? If it's within three weeks I'll just buy apple outright.
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I have a question though. Would I make more money buying four $460 December aapl calls or would I make less than if I just bought it in stock form right now and made $20,000 by December? Because the underlying value of those 4 calls is the equivalent of buying 400 stocks.
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The bull says he's tired, he run too much in the euro markets the last days.

Release the bear please:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...bt-mounts.html

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Well I'll still wait for a dip before I buy. Hopefully the dip doesn't happen when apples at $430 and it just goes down to $420 or something. When does the iPhone 5 release? If it's within three weeks I'll just buy apple outright.
Probably announced within 1-2 weeks and released in the next 4 weeks. Also potential to announce deals with either or both T-Mobile or China's largest mobile carrier. This is the news to watch as if they get a deal in China, their stock might double from here in 2 years.
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Well I'll still wait for a dip before I buy. Hopefully the dip doesn't happen when apples at $430 and it just goes down to $420 or something. When does the iPhone 5 release? If it's within three weeks I'll just buy apple outright.
Yeah

I am kicking myself for selling too early (though the money I used from selling it did go for a good cause..... )


I'll buy once all the $300 people sell their $400 stock now so it dips a bit under 400
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