EVO Mag Group Test: BMW M3 vs RS5 vs C63 AMG vs Boss 302 Mustang

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 03:56 PM

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Another Win for the M3.

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mot · 09-14-2011, 04:00 PM

nice!

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 04:03 PM

It's interesting how the M3 is still named best drivers car after 5 years.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 04:19 PM

Bump.

HBspeed · 09-14-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

It's interesting how the M3 is still named best drivers car after 5 years.

Says a lot about the all rounded excellence and staying power of the M3.

Says even more about the absolute lack of innovation or advancement that has occurred from BMW, Mercedes, Audi or anyone else since the E9X M3's debut.

FVM3 · 09-14-2011, 04:39 PM

its weird that m3 is even faster then the c63. Maybe too much wheel spin on the c63?

rick berry · 09-14-2011, 04:46 PM

Drove all these cars except for the RS5. Ordered my new M3 last month. Great article!

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by christopherchenm

its weird that m3 is even faster then the c63. Maybe too much wheel spin the the c63?

"Power is nothing without control".

FVM3 · 09-14-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

"Power is nothing without control".

Agree. C63 has too much wheels spin

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by christopherchenm

Agree. C63 has too much wheels spin

It's just too much power for the car to handle. 444 lbs of torque through an open diff is a recipe for insanity. The C63 doesn't even come with an LSD standard! The P31 Development package which bumps up HP to 481 HP is what gives you that.

P.S. You have a C63 so you already know this.

gthal · 09-14-2011, 05:49 PM

I love how a car that is relatively near the end of its life cycle is still so competitive. Got to love the AMG too though. I might want to own one someday... maybe.

What disappoints me the most is the RS5. It is such a beautiful car that I really wanted Audi to get it right. That would be a car I would have liked to own but it seems to be universally disliked (well, the least favourite) in its class. Too bad.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gthal

I love how a car that is relatively near the end of its life cycle is still so competitive. Got to love the AMG too though. I might want to own one someday... maybe.

What disappoints me the most is the RS5. It is such a beautiful car that I really wanted Audi to get it right. That would be a car I would have liked to own but it seems to be universally disliked (well, the least favourite) in its class. Too bad.

Audi's cars just plow way too much. A trick diff won't defy the laws of physics. The Quattro system doesn't really help it any.

xchosun1x · 09-14-2011, 06:12 PM

FTW!

Wolf · 09-14-2011, 06:35 PM

I'll take one M3 and one C63 coupe please

gthal · 09-14-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf

I'll take one M3 and one C63 coupe please

+1

I'm actually half thinking of modifying the M3 to make it a little more hard core (when it's paid off

) and keeping it as a dedicated weekend toy/track car. I would then pick up a C63 AMG coupe as my new DD. Well, just a thought anyway... by then I will have changed my mind ten times over

gblansten · 09-14-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

It's just too much power for the car to handle. 444 lbs of torque through an open diff is a recipe for insanity. The C63 doesn't even come with an LSD standard! The P31 Development package which bumps up HP to 481 HP is what gives you that.

P.S. You have a C63 so you already know this.

You can get the LSD without the P31.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 09-14-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

You can get the LSD without the P31.

Thanks for clarifying.

FStop7 · 09-14-2011, 08:20 PM

Only 3 stars for the RS5 is rough.

The M3 staying still being on top shows how much better BMW's chassis engineers are than the competition.

gblansten · 09-14-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Thanks for clarifying.

I got a C63 before the LSD became a solitary option. It really, really needed one.

gblansten · 09-14-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by christopherchenm

Agree. C63 has too much wheels spin

I agree with that and even an LSD isn't going to substantively change that. The rear tires are too damn skinny.

GOLFFRR · 09-14-2011, 09:45 PM

M3 FTW

mdosu · 09-14-2011, 09:52 PM

only 12.9 for the C63? The trap speed looks about right.

09-14-2011, 04:39 PM	#6
FVM3 Brigadier General Drives: 2011 E93 M3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,800 iTrader: (2)	its weird that m3 is even faster then the c63. Maybe too much wheel spin on the c63? __________________ 2011 E93 DCT Last edited by FVM3; 09-14-2011 at 04:55 PM.

09-14-2011, 05:49 PM	#11
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FStop7 I like cars Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 5,061 iTrader: (3)	Only 3 stars for the RS5 is rough. The M3 staying still being on top shows how much better BMW's chassis engineers are than the competition. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/

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mot Captain Drives: e92 AW M3 6MT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 862 iTrader: (8)	nice!

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09-14-2011, 09:52 PM	#22
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