Rumor: F80 M3 Is the New BMW M3 / M4 -- Sedan Comes First in 2013! - Page 4

masitr · 09-03-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by w00tw00t

very sad... M3 is such a iconic name... BMW is just ruining things... I'm going to get a GTR next year...

Go drive the GT-R first. I have owned both, I would rather drive an the M3 any day. IMO the GT-R is soleless and not much fun to drive. I am also a 6MT guy so it may just be me.

I do agree though an M3 should be an M3!

Frostbite · 09-03-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JusCruzin

Someone needs to tell BMW's marketing department that "4" means "death" in Chinese, and is considered a deeply unlucky number. Selling an "M4" in China -- which is now the largest market in the world for car sales -- is like Chevy selling the Nova ("it does not go") in Spanish speaking markets. BMW may not care what hardcore M enthusiasts think, but they will care about not shooting themselves in the foot in the Chinese market.

Good point. It's like the MGM Grand in Vegas demolishing and changing their entire strip side entrance shortly after opening because Chinese high rollers wouldn't go play because it was considered unlucky.

1MOREMOD · 09-03-2011, 09:23 PM

this whole thing is dumb and i hope a joke.

Edjay · 09-03-2011, 09:30 PM

I do believe sedan and coupe are almost identical when it comes to performance. Sedan are only about 20lbs heavier, but it does have shorter overhang. So i dont think M3 as a sedan would be far from what a coupe would be, so were not really loosing here.

I for one would not buy a coupe. 1being I have 3 kids and a wife. The other theres really none out there that in the sedan category that can compete with it. But as far as coupe, theres plenty of competition, and hate to say it some are far better car than a m3.

That said I dont care if they call it 320sport as long it make me tingly inside when I drive it ill buy it.

E92_SID · 09-03-2011, 10:03 PM

I don't think having a FI M3 is a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, I love my S65 but I hate my tuned 335 buddies always kicking my ass because my NA engine looses so much power up here at altitude (Denver).

1MOREMOD · 09-03-2011, 10:20 PM

if they make a sedan for the new model run i will have to have both and do a comparison of the FI vs NA every day. will put my porsche dreams on hold probably though.

mkoesel · 09-04-2011, 12:34 PM

Uh oh!

http://www.m4post.com/

What to do, what to do?

mkoesel · 09-04-2011, 12:37 PM

Psst!
A4 (LWB, as it happens) is the best selling luxury car in China.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusCruzin

Someone needs to tell BMW's marketing department that "4" means "death" in Chinese, and is considered a deeply unlucky number. Selling an "M4" in China -- which is now the largest market in the world for car sales -- is like Chevy selling the Nova ("it does not go") in Spanish speaking markets. BMW may not care what hardcore M enthusiasts think, but they will care about not shooting themselves in the foot in the Chinese market.

gthal · 09-04-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Uh oh!

http://www.m4post.com/

What to do, what to do?

I couldn't find the vendor or classified sections... or the picture threads

1MOREMOD · 09-04-2011, 01:13 PM

what the hell is that?

elp_jc · 09-04-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine

M3 Post 2011: I hate it I hate it I hate it
M3 Post 2012: I'm interested, tell me more
M3 Post 2013: I love it! Going on ED, can't wait!

Not me. I don't personally care about the name, but a turbo sports car is a deal breaker for me now and in 10 years. I MUCH prefer less power with a NA V8 (or NA F6) than 50% more with a turbo engine. Having more than 400 HP on a street car is just crazy to me. Give me a better power to weight ratio, and better efficiency over HP; much more rewarding to drive than a 500HP pig with the range of a motorcycle.

JusCruzin · 09-04-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Psst!
A4 (LWB, as it happens) is the best selling luxury car in China.

Not so sure about that. I've been to Beijing and Shanghai many times and have seen tons of A6's but few A4's. The number 4 is a homophone for "death" in Chinese in any event.

gblansten · 09-04-2011, 03:10 PM

I think it would be pretty cool if they rename the upcoming BMW M3 the BMW Death. Maybe throw in a Rammstein anthology installed on the hard drive.

mkoesel · 09-04-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JusCruzin

Not so sure about that. I've been to Beijing and Shanghai many times and have seen tons of A6's but few A4's.

Good call. I was wrong actually. It is the A6L that is number one.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/18/c...n-luxury-cars/

However, as you can see, the A4L is in second place.

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The number 4 is a homophone for "death" in Chinese in any event.

Audi doesn't give a rats ass about that, and neither will BMW.

gblansten · 09-04-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Good call. I was wrong actually. It is the A6L that is number one.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/18/c...n-luxury-cars/

However, as you can see, the A4L is in second place.

Audi doesn't give a rats ass about that, and neither will BMW.

They would sell more A4s but I heard that an unusually large number of customers die on the way to the dealer.

mkoesel · 09-04-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

They would sell more A4s but I heard that an unusually large number of customers die on the way to the dealer.

It's china - an unusually large number of people die period. Heck, 100 of them just got mowed down trying to cross the street in the time it took me to type this.

Totti · 09-04-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

It's china - an unusually large number of people die period. Heck, 100 of them just got mowed down trying to cross the street in the time it took me to type this.

Stainless 45 · 09-04-2011, 05:52 PM

4 doors should equal M4. Leave the M3 coupe name alone. Of course, what the hell do I care? I'll never buy another one unless they put a v-10 into it.

e9x Forever!!

ScheerSpeed · 09-05-2011, 11:14 AM

yay new sedan!

Eau Rouge · 09-05-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Not me. I don't personally care about the name, but a turbo sports car is a deal breaker for me now and in 10 years. I MUCH prefer less power with a NA V8 (or NA F6) than 50% more with a turbo engine. Having more than 400 HP on a street car is just crazy to me. Give me a better power to weight ratio, and better efficiency over HP; much more rewarding to drive than a 500HP pig with the range of a motorcycle.

^^ This

For current M3 coupe/vert owners, there may be a silver lining in the M4 moniker cloud. As soon as the badge thieves wise up that the M4 badge is the hawt commodity, those of us with and E92M3 may not have too much to worry about with the ///M3 badges on the cars.

Then all BMW would need to do is change the M4 to something else with each successive generation to keep the badge thieves off balance.

Uli_HH · 09-05-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Uh oh!

http://www.m4post.com/

What to do, what to do?

No yoke ... but according to the infos I I just received this forum should better collect some money to buy this webaddress back!

Greets Uli_HH

aus · 09-07-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Azorean

They way BMW is diluting and "whoring" out the M name these days with all those stupid other rumoured models (X3M LOL), how anyone can be surprised or concerned with this latest marketing crap is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by kmarei

Oh and sticking an M badge on anything that moves is not badge whoring?
X5M X6M 1M etc etc

Agree to both completely.
I wish they'd just come out with a CSL line line MB and Audi have with the Black Series and RS line. BMW is diluting the //M way too much now.

.

09-03-2011, 09:23 PM	#69
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,537 iTrader: (3)	this whole thing is dumb and i hope a joke. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

09-03-2011, 10:03 PM	#71
E92_SID Colonel Drives: 2011.5 MR/BB E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO. USA Posts: 2,767 iTrader: (2)	I don't think having a FI M3 is a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, I love my S65 but I hate my tuned 335 buddies always kicking my ass because my NA engine looses so much power up here at altitude (Denver). __________________ 2011/E92/M3/MR/BB/ZCV/ZP2/EDC/2MT

09-03-2011, 10:20 PM	#72
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,537 iTrader: (3)	if they make a sedan for the new model run i will have to have both and do a comparison of the FI vs NA every day. will put my porsche dreams on hold probably though. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

09-04-2011, 12:34 PM	#73
mkoesel Moderator Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 11,745 iTrader: (1)	Uh oh! http://www.m4post.com/ What to do, what to do? __________________ 2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT 2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG

09-04-2011, 01:13 PM	#76
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,537 iTrader: (3)	what the hell is that? __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

09-03-2011, 09:30 PM	#70
Edjay Second Lieutenant Drives: 08 E90 AW, 76 2002 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sacoftomatoes Ca Posts: 294 iTrader: (0)	I do believe sedan and coupe are almost identical when it comes to performance. Sedan are only about 20lbs heavier, but it does have shorter overhang. So i dont think M3 as a sedan would be far from what a coupe would be, so were not really loosing here. I for one would not buy a coupe. 1being I have 3 kids and a wife. The other theres really none out there that in the sedan category that can compete with it. But as far as coupe, theres plenty of competition, and hate to say it some are far better car than a m3. That said I dont care if they call it 320sport as long it make me tingly inside when I drive it ill buy it.

09-04-2011, 03:10 PM	#79
gblansten Captain Obvious Drives: 2011 BMW M3 SSII/Black Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thick ascending limb Posts: 1,255 iTrader: (0)	I think it would be pretty cool if they rename the upcoming BMW M3 the BMW Death. Maybe throw in a Rammstein anthology installed on the hard drive.

09-04-2011, 05:52 PM	#84
Stainless 45 First Lieutenant Drives: Last of the V-8 Interceptors Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 383 iTrader: (0)	4 doors should equal M4. Leave the M3 coupe name alone. Of course, what the hell do I care? I'll never buy another one unless they put a v-10 into it. e9x Forever!! __________________ 2011.5 LeMans Blue e92 DCT, ZCP, European Delivery. Black Edition Grilles, No Keyhole or Reflectors, Rear Fogs Enabled, Encore Innovation Exhaust, LUX Angel Eyes. "Last of the V-8 Interceptors, a real piece of history..."

09-05-2011, 11:14 AM	#85
ScheerSpeed Major General Drives: '13 F30 Estoril M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 5,769 iTrader: (14)	yay new sedan!

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