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      09-02-2011, 06:05 PM   #45
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It's like Porsche called the 991 a 912 instead if a 911.
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      09-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #46
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It's like Porsche called the 991 a 912 instead if a 911.
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      09-02-2011, 10:00 PM   #47
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Uh, when Porsche called it a 930, no one seemed to complain. Bad analogy. These early rumors are not necessarily cast in stone...
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      09-02-2011, 10:09 PM   #48
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retarded, m3 is iconic dont change it
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      09-03-2011, 01:27 AM   #49
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It's like Porsche called the 991 a 912 instead if a 911.
actually the 912 was a 911 with a 4-cyl engine instead of the flat-6.

If an M4 meant an naturally aspirated inline 6 with much less weight hell yeah i would not mind the name change.
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      09-03-2011, 03:19 AM   #50
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im going to get the gtr after the m3
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      09-03-2011, 08:59 AM   #51
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Someone needs to tell BMW's marketing department that "4" means "death" in Chinese, and is considered a deeply unlucky number. Selling an "M4" in China -- which is now the largest market in the world for car sales -- is like Chevy selling the Nova ("it does not go") in Spanish speaking markets. BMW may not care what hardcore M enthusiasts think, but they will care about not shooting themselves in the foot in the Chinese market.
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      09-03-2011, 09:07 AM   #52
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yea, uhm c63.. HELLO.
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      09-03-2011, 09:43 AM   #53
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M4 could be the beginning of the next 30 years of BMWs phenomenal high hp, well balanced, daily driver to track beast like the E30 was. All this speculation is bs. BMW will do the enthusiast right. Of that I have no doubt. Just wait and see. But you know you can please some but never all. (unless it's an E9x)
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      09-03-2011, 10:25 AM   #54
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An M3 is an M3. You can't spend 30 years building such a name, pure benchmark for every single automaker out there and all of the sudden change it to M4 because it's a new naming system. What would be interesting is for the M3 since it's such a name, such a car and such a legacy, to be the only one not to follow the new naming system. The M3 has always been above all else. This would be no different.

But the new "M3" being a Sedan, turbocharged, I6, with no screaming 8k redline, makes you wonder if it's an M3 at all.

Now, all the comments of "c63 here I come", "My next car is a p-car", etc, are non sense. I would never stop buying a car because the badge has a different number on it.
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      09-03-2011, 11:01 AM   #55
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Sorry, but the people saying this kind of thing are simply ridiculous.

So you're going to get a C63 just because of a name change / badge, even if an "M4" still wipes the floor with its future competition? Pffft.

That's badge whoring defined.
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      09-03-2011, 03:24 PM   #56
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Sorry, but the people saying this kind of thing are simply ridiculous.

So you're going to get a C63 just because of a name change / badge, even if an "M4" still wipes the floor with its future competition? Pffft.

That's badge whoring defined.
Oh and sticking an M badge on anything that moves is not badge whoring?
X5M X6M 1M etc etc
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      09-03-2011, 04:17 PM   #57
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Not excited about a tri-turbo 6 cylinder car with 30 more HP than the current amazing S85 N/A V8.

We'll see what happens, but the M brand isn't what it used to be.
S65. S85 is the V10
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      09-03-2011, 04:35 PM   #58
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Sorry, but the people saying this kind of thing are simply ridiculous.

So you're going to get a C63 just because of a name change / badge, even if an "M4" still wipes the floor with its future competition? Pffft.

That's badge whoring defined.



They can call it whatever they want. As long as it amazing to drive then I am all for it.

My lease on the Z4 ends in 2013...
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Someone needs to tell BMW's marketing department that "4" means "death" in Chinese, and is considered a deeply unlucky number. Selling an "M4" in China -- which is now the largest market in the world for car sales -- is like Chevy selling the Nova ("it does not go") in Spanish speaking markets. BMW may not care what hardcore M enthusiasts think, but they will care about not shooting themselves in the foot in the Chinese market.
This.

BMW hello?? - do you realize this??
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      09-03-2011, 05:37 PM   #61
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We need to start a online petition (via a vote thread) on this forum and see if we can try and influence BMW from staying away from the 'M4' name .. and stay with M3... I bet they watch this forum ... and yes maybe we aren't that many .. but perhaps it'll tip them over and they'll change their mind.
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      09-03-2011, 05:56 PM   #62
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This.

BMW hello?? - do you realize this??
But what about the fact that it is a 4 litre V8, making 414 bhp?

Do you hear the sound of that? That is the sound of a billion chinese folk all of a sudden dropping dead upon news of my revelation
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      09-03-2011, 06:03 PM   #63
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M4 = marketing suicide. Not going to happen. This thread happened a few years ago and never came to fruition.
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...brands a 4-door sedan an M3 when the M4 moniker is available.
...brands what we count as the fifth generation M3 coupé an M4 even though the "M3" moniker would be a better fit from a both a heritage point of view as well truth-in-advertising the number of turbos clustered beneath the hood.
...will launch the fifth generation formerly known as M3 with the most family friendly variant; a sedan/saloon.

Has whomever in Munich missed anything that could further confuse M Welt? God help us all.
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Someone needs to tell BMW's marketing department that "4" means "death" in Chinese, and is considered a deeply unlucky number. Selling an "M4" in China -- which is now the largest market in the world for car sales -- is like Chevy selling the Nova ("it does not go") in Spanish speaking markets. BMW may not care what hardcore M enthusiasts think, but they will care about not shooting themselves in the foot in the Chinese market.
Agreed. M4 FTL.

The Ford Pinto (a slang version of d-i-c-k in portuguese) would have bombed in portuguese speaking countries.
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They way BMW is diluting and "whoring" out the M name these days with all those stupid other rumoured models (X3M LOL), how anyone can be surprised or concerned with this latest marketing crap is beyond me.
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