BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > M3 vs....
 
Velos Designwerks
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-01-2011, 12:14 PM   #45
alms211
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: MD

Posts: 747
iTrader: (1)

GTR over 997 Turbo? Not in a million years
alms211 is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 01:53 PM   #46
Erhan
Colonel
 
Erhan's Avatar
 
Drives: Cooper S
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle

Posts: 2,462
iTrader: (0)

Get the GTR, you leave in Seattle, AWD is good for snow

Seriously though, I wouldn't. I guess it depends on your goals and what you're looking in a car... GTR is not my kinda car.
__________________
2011 MINI Cooper S
previous cars: E92 M3, Z4MC, Z4 Roadster, E36 328 Sedan
Erhan is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 01:54 PM   #47
Erhan
Colonel
 
Erhan's Avatar
 
Drives: Cooper S
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle

Posts: 2,462
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Jono_ View Post
Best. Car. Ever. I would take it over a Porsche Turbo. And lots more. Ill post a pic of the driveway shortly ;P
GTR beats the turbo only in MSRP. That's it.
__________________
2011 MINI Cooper S
previous cars: E92 M3, Z4MC, Z4 Roadster, E36 328 Sedan
Erhan is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 01:59 PM   #48
997GT3
Captain
 
997GT3's Avatar
 
Drives: GTR
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Dakota

Posts: 687
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by alms211 View Post
GTR over 997 Turbo? Not in a million years


Any 997 Turbo over the GTR.1
GTR.2 over the 997.1 and .2 Turbo
997 Turbo S over all GTRs
__________________

-2012 Cayenne Turbo
-2013 GTR
997GT3 is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 01:59 PM   #49
chris s
Brigadier General
 
chris s's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 e92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York

Posts: 4,557
iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Jono_ View Post
Best. Car. Ever. I would take it over a Porsche Turbo. And lots more. Ill post a pic of the driveway shortly ;P
You just lost all credibility...

TT any day...
__________________

2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs
2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT | AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!
chris s is online now   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 02:02 PM   #50
997GT3
Captain
 
997GT3's Avatar
 
Drives: GTR
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Dakota

Posts: 687
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by erhanh View Post
GTR beats the turbo only in MSRP. That's it.
That's not true. The new GTR will beat 997.1 and .2 Turbos at most performance measures. The Turbo S is another story though.
__________________

-2012 Cayenne Turbo
-2013 GTR
997GT3 is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 02:17 PM   #51
Erhan
Colonel
 
Erhan's Avatar
 
Drives: Cooper S
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle

Posts: 2,462
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 997GT3 View Post
That's not true. The new GTR will beat 997.1 and .2 Turbos at most performance measures. The Turbo S is another story though.
Yeah you might be right. 2012 GTR is something else. But in anyway, not that I drove any of these cars, if the price wasn't the factor, I'd say 911 turbo would be a better car to drive.
__________________
2011 MINI Cooper S
previous cars: E92 M3, Z4MC, Z4 Roadster, E36 328 Sedan
Erhan is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 02:18 PM   #52
erio
Captain
 
erio's Avatar
 
Drives: e92 JB M3, 2012 GTR
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: GA

Posts: 751
iTrader: (0)

If you can swing it, I think you should do it. That's the only cure Otherwise you will drive yourself crazy and not appreciate your M.

The car is amazing. Most people who make negative comments about the car have never driven one. I couldn't be happier with the GTR. Mine is super silver.

Basically:

GTR. JUST DO IT!


Quote:
Originally Posted by 997GT3 View Post
That's not true. The new GTR will beat 997.1 and .2 Turbos at most performance measures. The Turbo S is another story though.
+1

It will bite at the heels of a turbo S which costs $70,000 more. With a simple tune/exhaust I'm sure it would be a drivers race. There is a Fifth Gear episode where they were compared in a race on the track and the turbo S won by a small margin. I think some of the difference was due to the fact that Tiff Needell was drivng the P car. That guy can drive. If the GTR would have won, Porsche would have had a fit. I had a 997.1tt a couple years ago. I personally think the GTR is more entertaining. It has a lot of character.

Last edited by erio; 09-01-2011 at 03:28 PM.
erio is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 04:16 PM   #53
admranger
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2002 M3, 2005 X5, 2011 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Las Vegas

Posts: 146
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 997GT3 View Post
Is that what you read into my post?
Wow
I read that I'd have to live in North Dakota to be able to afford to own one. No thanks... I kid. I kid. I did a three year sentence in South Dakota and that was enough for me.

My take is that GTRs are stupid fast, but like any car on the track, they take a talented driver to make them work well. Yes, I'm one of those guys who has "beat" GTRs (yes, plural, there were three of them there and I passed them all at one time or another) on the track in my street tire shod E46 M3 (Spring Mountain Motorsports Park, full track). However, I've been smoked by 'lesser' cars than an E46 M3 so it proves nothing other than driver skill makes a big difference on the track.

If I had the resources and desire I'd think about a GTR, but I prefer a GT3, so that's what I'd likely end up with.

Cars like the GTR are good for all of us. They press the envelop of what can be done and somewhat force the hand of other car makers to match or beat it. Dollar for dollar it is tough to argue with a GTR as a 'good value' supercar.

OP: If you want one and have the resources for it then get it. I hope you have a ton of fun with it too!
__________________
'11 E90 M3, Mebourne/Black/Fox Red/Black, 6MT, roof, PP2, heated seats, moonroof, split folding rear seats, iPod/USB adapter -- 8/8/11 euro delivery!

Last edited by admranger; 09-01-2011 at 04:24 PM.
admranger is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 04:27 PM   #54
997GT3
Captain
 
997GT3's Avatar
 
Drives: GTR
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Dakota

Posts: 687
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by erhanh View Post
Yeah you might be right. 2012 GTR is something else. But in anyway, not that I drove any of these cars, if the price wasn't the factor, I'd say 911 turbo would be a better car to drive.


If price weren't a factor I would definitely take the 997 too.
__________________

-2012 Cayenne Turbo
-2013 GTR
997GT3 is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 06:20 PM   #55
devo
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 10 GT3/335 Cpe/991 gt3 coming
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

Posts: 1,887
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 997GT3 View Post
Any 997 Turbo over the GTR.1
GTR.2 over the 997.1 and .2 Turbo
997 Turbo S over all GTRs
I'd take a .2 turbo (S or not) over a .2 GTR anyday .

At this level they're fighting over tenths; price aside of course.
devo is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 07:49 PM   #56
JulieDriving
Female driving enthusiast :P
 
JulieDriving's Avatar
 
Drives: Bimmer
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada

Posts: 2,230
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
OP: I hate to say this, but I think you're a goner just by reading the title of your thread.

Since you said money is not an issue, I say:

Life is short.

Resistance is futile.
__________________
Present: 2013 M3 coupe (Azurite Black, Black, Piano Black)
Past: 2010 335i coupe (Monaco Blue, Cream Beige, Grey Poplar)
JulieDriving is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 08:12 PM   #57
arter
collecting toys
 
arter's Avatar
 
Drives: M3 MCB
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rochester, ny

Posts: 562
iTrader: (0)

Keep the M3 and buy the GTR as a 2nd or 3rd car.

That way you can drive the car you are in the mood for and what fits your needs to that day.
__________________
2011 e92 M3 Monte Carlo Blue ESS 535
2010 Honda FIT
2006 SLK 55 AMG
arter is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 08:28 PM   #58
RuthlessE90
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NYC

Posts: 319
iTrader: (5)

get the GTR man...what kind of thread is this. What are you thinking!!!?!?!!? Man UP!!
RuthlessE90 is offline   No_Country
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 08:31 PM   #59
w00tw00t
Major
 
w00tw00t's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 E92 M3 AW
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Seattle

Posts: 1,291
iTrader: (9)

OMG! I've created a Thread MONSTER!! ......
__________________
M3 E92 AW | Semi-Stripped Interior | APEX EC-7 18x10 ET25 | APEX Wheel Studs | Akrapovic Evo | Brembo GT 380 BBK | Pagid RS29 | BMC Air Filter | AiM Solo DL | OMP WRC Seats w/ Planted Brackets | Challenge Harness Bar | Schroth Profi II-6 Hans | KW Clubsport | Euro MDM & BPM Tune | NT01 | BFG R1 | NT05
2013 Trackdays # | 7 |
w00tw00t is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 09:14 PM   #60
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,729
iTrader: (0)

997 Turbo S in a heartbeat over a GT-R. What's so appealing about the GT-R is the performance you get for the money. I've promised myself I'll own the 991 Turbo S in a couple of years. Not sure if it'll happen but I sure hope it does.
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 09:37 PM   #61
Cdnrockies
Banned
 
Drives: BMW's
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary

Posts: 1,114
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by admranger View Post
Cars like the GTR are good for all of us. They press the envelope of what can be done and somewhat force the hand of other car makers to match or beat it. Dollar for dollar it is tough to argue with a GTR as a 'good value' supercar.
This.

All of these discussions in the vs. thread didn't exist a decade ago. The gap has narrowed amongst all performance cars which leaves us all with multiple choices and difficult decisions.
Cdnrockies is offline   Canada
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 09:42 PM   #62
wwjd15
 
wwjd15's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 E92 M3 MR
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Orange County

Posts: 1,235
iTrader: (6)

oh no~~ why this thread turned into 997 tt VS GTR fight?
__________________
Build #1 NA: Big Willow 1:30.449 (NT01), Buttonwillow 13CW 1:56.634 (NT01), Autoclub Speedway Fontana 1:49.422 (NT01), Mfest2012 LMVS 1:59.002 (NT01+AD08), Streets of Willow 1:22.36 (RS3), Chuckwalla 2:02.46 (RS3), Laguna Seca 1:41.74 (R888), Infineon 1:50.346 (R888)

Build #2 VF SC: Buttonwillow 13CW 1:54.037 (TD), Big Willow 1:29.63 (R888)
wwjd15 is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 10:02 PM   #63
IFX
Banned
 
Drives: AW e46M/N54
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South Fla.

Posts: 2,545
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by chriszeh View Post
Don't do it. That much acceleration could rip the skin off your face. You don't want that. Gtrs are ugly anyway right. Come to your senses. Go look in the garage and chant M3, M3 while dancing around like rocky. It helps.


who the hell DOESN'T want that?? lol
IFX is offline   Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 10:34 PM   #64
1MOREMOD
Major General
 
1MOREMOD's Avatar
 
Drives: at a moderate pace
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: garage

Posts: 6,509
iTrader: (3)

how will he pick up women with a skinless face. play along
__________________

02 Tiag e46 M3|6MT|GC plates|MCS c.o.|GC race control arms|GC bushings & bearings|BW eng. & tran. mounts|subframe kit|BW race shifter|BW Jaffster knob|Euro header|Eisenmann sport|K&N c.a.i.|Seibon CF hood|CSL bumper|CSL brakes|RS19s|SS lines|half cage|Recaro profi|Profi 2 harness|race pulleys|BMWpedals|Apex studs|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car|
1MOREMOD is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
      09-01-2011, 11:40 PM   #65
Daft
Captain
 
Daft's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 ZCP E92 M3 & 2003 E46 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada

Posts: 819
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW M3  [4.82]
2003 BMW M3  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris s View Post
Put a VT2-625 on your car...
This.
__________________

2011 M3 ZCP | ESS SUPERCHARGED | AKRAPOVIC EVOLUTION | 20" HRE P40 | BREMBO BBK | B&G SPRINGS
Daft is offline   Canada
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2011, 12:30 AM   #66
disapr
drop a gear and...
 
Drives: 2010 M3
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 937
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [0.00]
2012 SVT Raptor  [0.00]
2012 BMW X5  [0.00]
Is this suddenly a Nissan forum?

The GTR is an ugly plastic serial box car. It's Yamaha vs. Ducati all over again.

If you just want to go factory fast then get whatever makes you happy. Maybe Toyota, Honda and Hyundai will jump on the success of the GTR and produce a few more serial box cars for the GTR customers.
__________________

'12 SVT Raptor
'04 E46 M3 6MT AW --Build Thread--
www.adaptiveeng.com<-Cool stuff here
disapr is offline   United_States
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST