moving to an x5, traded my m3. what i paid... - Page 2

Rob@StrasseForged · 08-19-2011, 02:28 PM

Hope you enjoy the new ride! At the end of the day, you get to have a happy family! Look at the bright side!

ss134 · 08-19-2011, 03:30 PM

Almost ordered a new X5 40d M Sport last month to replace my M3 but at the last minute ordered another M3 - that drive to the dealer to place the order made me think that i'd miss the ///M far too much - i've got 3 kids and could do with a bit more space but you only live once!

motortrend · 08-19-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m3convertdriver

i definitely did not consider a e90 because I wanted something bigger post having my droptop. That said, I dont think it's a bad idea and plenty of people have kids with small cars.

Specifically, regarding your question of "what makes you need an X in NY?" I dont have to defend myself to you on why I think I need a bigger car. If you must know, my wife and I have a summer home a few hours away and it's impossible to fill everything in my convertible. SO I wanted something bigger. I rarely actually drive my car within NYC (most people here dont), and use it for weekends and vacations.

My question for you is what makes you think you need an M3 in the an island smaller than connecticut?

That does make a bit more sense, but I would still try to keep the M3 using something like a roof rack to pack up, but that's just me, and I understand your decision.

To answer your question, PR might be smaller than Connecticut but it has a whole lot more road density than the US and probably more road density than Connecticut, so there's quite a few roads to drive on, many of them mountain roads.
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indi...IS.ROD.DNST.K2

Hunter399 · 08-19-2011, 09:35 PM

The new X5's are great cars. I actually had an x5 5.0 on order before I ordered my m3. Both fantastic machines, can't go wrong either way.

Midwest X6 · 08-19-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m3convertdriver

Thanks for everything!!!!

Unfortunately, with an 8 mo old graduating from an infant carrier to a convertible baby seat soon, I've had to grow up and get a family car to replace my e93. I loved my car, but between the baby, my wife, my stupid $800 stroller, and all the other S*** I have to lug around, it's just not going to work. I live in NYC, so can't justify having two cars either (since we use our cars once a week - maybe!)

So, just traded my car in for a used x5 5.0 2011 today.

When I drove to the lot, I considered a new x5 3.5 2012, but after driving the 400 horses and 450/lb of torque in the 5.0, I had to get it. It cost me more, but coming from an M, needed the power. Also, while I love a new car like anyone else... I cant mentally get over the depreciation on day 1 so I like to get my cars after someone else has done that favor for me...

X5 2011 had about 11,8k miles on it and was asking $58,8k (Down from $60k and change two weeks ago). Absolutely excellent condition, flawless inside and outside. Someone took good care of it. After negotiating, the dealer and I agreed on $56,9k and shook hands on that. The trade in value for my 2008 E93 M with 16.5k miles wasnt great, but I'm ok as the price on the X5 was ok. In fact, I prob gave up too much on trade and we agreed on $46.5k. YES YES, I know, if I went private sale I probably cld have gotten another $2-$3k, but I wanted to sell it quickly before the summer is over. When Sept comes, interest will fade for a convert...

SO ALL IN, my trade was the 2008 e93 m3 (16.5k miles) for the 2011 X5 5.0 (11.8k miles) + $10k.

Finally, funny enough, I've only driven my M3 for one full year now as I bought it used with about 8k on it for $56,2k. That means, all in, I paid about $9,700 to drive it for 12 months = $808/month with no money down. Sales tax I paid when I bought it gets transferred to my new car, so I wont count that.

All in all, wasn't a cheap experience to own the M3 and buy my X5, but I think I can live with the deal in hindsight Would be interested to see what others think about my purchase / trade in.

Thanks and good luck all.

LOL!

I just went from an X5 to an M3..

gemini330zhp · 08-19-2011, 10:24 PM

Why didn't you keep the M and get your wife a used minivan?

positiveions · 08-20-2011, 02:21 PM

well, the wifey better polish that car every 6 month; to teach her a lesson.

At least you are staying in the BMW family, and you are not leaving us

JusCruzin · 08-20-2011, 02:51 PM

To answer your original question, I think you did very well for yourself at a cost of $808 per month for the M3. If you end up hating the X5, you can always try to swap out of that like you did with the M3.

S.hasan546 · 08-20-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini330zhp

Why didn't you keep the M and get your wife a used minivan?

PARKING PARKING PARKING PARKING.

Parking inside manhattan will cost couble your minivan payment

S.hasan546 · 08-20-2011, 03:27 PM

i think your only real choice is too move out to long island

, come to suffoulk (melville, dix hills, Jericho, huntington). Taxes are less, much more land, and i go door to door commute 1 hour 5 minutes each way. Plus i have 3 cars + 1 on the way and still have much more room left.

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:37 PM

Thanks all for the supportive and funny replies...

parking in NYC sucks, but nothing you can do about it. Having a car in NYC is a luxury in itself, so we chose to move to the bigger car.

re bugaboo stroller, i hate it, but wife made point of "how can you get yourself a m3 and not get your son the best stroller?" duh, the answer is he's 3 months old, but I pick the battles I want to fight and it just didnt work in the e93. Frankly, id be surprised if fit in an e90, but either way, didnt work.

that all said, picked up the x5 today, and the thing has some good power - and torque is very impressive. Ill say, the steering is extremely squashy vs the M and I definitely do not have the confidence to make the exit ramps at M speeds anymore. size wize, however, its like im driving a monster down the road, I can see 10 miles ahead of me, instead of just the car in front, and it's different. I did see a e92 flying by me on 95N and did get choked up a bit...

Ill send some pics of my x5 when i take them (if anyone cares), but here is a couple shots I took of my son in our last day in the M. he's unhappy too... btw, in case anyone asks, NO I didnt drive with him top down...

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by luis_m3

OP, you already made the decision and just move on... I'm sure the wife is happy as well. But personally, after owning SUVs in the past, my E90 M3 is the best of all; plenty of room and still very fun to drive.
$800 for a stroller dude??? That might have been the bigger mistake

I have two kids, and the best stroller we ever had was the cheap A$$ strollers from Walmart ($20)... lightweight and they took a lot of beatings.

i know.. bugaboo is dumb. bad mistake

positiveions · 08-20-2011, 07:39 PM

i didn't know your face looked like "smiley JOE"

But cute little kid. See, i think he enjoys the sun (

should've kept that E93)

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by motortrend

That does make a bit more sense, but I would still try to keep the M3 using something like a roof rack to pack up, but that's just me, and I understand your decision.

To answer your question, PR might be smaller than Connecticut but it has a whole lot more road density than the US and probably more road density than Connecticut, so there's quite a few roads to drive on, many of them mountain roads.
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indi...IS.ROD.DNST.K2

sry, i lashed a bit on your response. was not happy losing my baby, but what can you do. im sure there are some beautiful places to open up your M in PR...

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Midwest X6

LOL!

I just went from an X5 to an M3..

let's keep in touch in case BOTH of us change our minds

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JusCruzin

To answer your original question, I think you did very well for yourself at a cost of $808 per month for the M3. If you end up hating the X5, you can always try to swap out of that like you did with the M3.

thanks. good to hear. financially, makes sense, I guess...

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by S.hasan546

i think your only real choice is too move out to long island

, come to suffoulk (melville, dix hills, Jericho, huntington). Taxes are less, much more land, and i go door to door commute 1 hour 5 minutes each way. Plus i have 3 cars + 1 on the way and still have much more room left.

NYC as long as I can... then yes, the burbs are calling. funny enough, it's not the parking that will drive me out there... it's the fact that private kindergarden costs $30k...

m3convertdriver · 08-20-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eatrach73

i didn't know your face looked like "smiley JOE"

But cute little kid. See, i think he enjoys the sun (

should've kept that E93)

thanks.. re the face, yes, i did that last minute just because having stuff on me on internet freaks me out. dont even have facebook!

my boy def likes the son...

positiveions · 08-20-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m3convertdriver

thanks.. re the face, yes, i did that last minute just because having stuff on me on internet freaks me out. dont even have facebook!

my boy def likes the son...

i don't blame you.
This morning BMW VISA card called me about fraudulent charge. This is the 3rd time!

S.hasan546 · 08-20-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m3convertdriver

NYC as long as I can... then yes, the burbs are calling. funny enough, it's not the parking that will drive me out there... it's the fact that private kindergarden costs $30k...

Thats exactly why parents originally moved my family out. We went to Half Hollow Hills District. Either that or Jericho District would be my choices for kids. I wouldn't go to Nassau IMHO. The difference in travel time if you take the LIRR is 10-20 minutes tops if your on the edge of suffoulk/nassau. But the taxes in Nassau are double, and school districts aren't as good. Also private schools on Long Island (friend's academy) cost about $15-18k i believe and they are top notch.

rye m3 · 08-20-2011, 10:16 PM

You are living large anyway dude. Parking can be had much cheaper than $500/mo. $30k year kindergarten is a waste of money. Summer house... WTF, why not 2 cars? Sorry, you sound a bit whipped

Anyway, an M3 cab is just not an ideal car to have if you only have one. You gotta have a sedan at least. Personally, I would never drive an SUV as a primary car. The wife's car, yes, but a minivan will never enter our driveway.

Foodle · 08-21-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by m3convertdriver

re bugaboo stroller, i hate it, but wife made point of "how can you get yourself a m3 and not get your son the best stroller?" duh, the answer is he's 3 months old, but I pick the battles I want to fight and it just didnt work in the e93. Frankly, id be surprised if fit in an e90, but either way, didnt work.

Ok, this isn't StrollerPost.com, but ...

Equating cost with quality is a big mistake. Bugaboos are for being seen with. Maclarens are actually good for using as a stroller for your kid (remind you of someone's favorite car maker?). First off, the Maclarens are incredibly light. They have a model that weighs 10 lbs (probably less than your kid). Bugaboo models weigh 20 lbs or more. For a while you're pushing more stroller than kid. Maclaren's 5-second 1-hand fold claim is no joke. And they fold down into a easy to one-hand carry package. A Bugaboo doesn't fold for crap.

I hope you didn't get the X5 just to fit the Bugaboo. Because you know that in 6 months your wife's going to switch to a Maclaren and you'll be kicking yourself.

... but, I hear ya about picking your battles. Good luck with the new car and kid

08-19-2011, 02:28 PM	#23
Rob@StrasseForged BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 2013 MW/FR E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,144 iTrader: (1)	Hope you enjoy the new ride! At the end of the day, you get to have a happy family! Look at the bright side! __________________ Robert@StrasseForged.com \| (305)303-1190 \| Facebook \| Flickr

08-19-2011, 03:30 PM	#24
ss134 Colonel Drives: E90 M3 DCT & COOPER S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany/UK Posts: 2,600 iTrader: (1)	Almost ordered a new X5 40d M Sport last month to replace my M3 but at the last minute ordered another M3 - that drive to the dealer to place the order made me think that i'd miss the ///M far too much - i've got 3 kids and could do with a bit more space but you only live once! __________________ 2011 AW E90 M3 DCT - Current 2010 JZB E90 M3 DCT - Sold 2009 6MT E90 LCI 335i M -Sport - Sold

08-19-2011, 10:24 PM	#28
gemini330zhp Major Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BergenCo NewJersey Posts: 1,181 iTrader: (0)	Why didn't you keep the M and get your wife a used minivan? __________________ 2008 Jet Black E90 M3 6SPD no sunroof and 18s to my specs Last edited by gemini330zhp; 08-20-2011 at 02:22 PM.

08-20-2011, 02:21 PM	#29
positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 8,857 iTrader: (1)	well, the wifey better polish that car every 6 month; to teach her a lesson. At least you are staying in the BMW family, and you are not leaving us __________________

08-20-2011, 07:37 PM	#33
m3convertdriver Private Drives: M3 E93 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY Posts: 93 iTrader: (0)	Thanks all for the supportive and funny replies... parking in NYC sucks, but nothing you can do about it. Having a car in NYC is a luxury in itself, so we chose to move to the bigger car. re bugaboo stroller, i hate it, but wife made point of "how can you get yourself a m3 and not get your son the best stroller?" duh, the answer is he's 3 months old, but I pick the battles I want to fight and it just didnt work in the e93. Frankly, id be surprised if fit in an e90, but either way, didnt work. that all said, picked up the x5 today, and the thing has some good power - and torque is very impressive. Ill say, the steering is extremely squashy vs the M and I definitely do not have the confidence to make the exit ramps at M speeds anymore. size wize, however, its like im driving a monster down the road, I can see 10 miles ahead of me, instead of just the car in front, and it's different. I did see a e92 flying by me on 95N and did get choked up a bit... Ill send some pics of my x5 when i take them (if anyone cares), but here is a couple shots I took of my son in our last day in the M. he's unhappy too... btw, in case anyone asks, NO I didnt drive with him top down... Attached Images __________________ ********** 2011 X5 5.0, Jet Black 2008 M3 E93, Jerez Black (retired)** 2005 330 CIC, Jet Black (retired) 1997 Saab 900S, Turtle Green (R.I.P.)

08-19-2011, 09:35 PM	#26
Hunter399 Major General Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 7,751 iTrader: (30)	The new X5's are great cars. I actually had an x5 5.0 on order before I ordered my m3. Both fantastic machines, can't go wrong either way.

08-20-2011, 02:51 PM	#30
JusCruzin Private Drives: 2008 E90 6MT M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 86 iTrader: (0)	To answer your original question, I think you did very well for yourself at a cost of $808 per month for the M3. If you end up hating the X5, you can always try to swap out of that like you did with the M3.

08-20-2011, 03:27 PM	#32
S.hasan546 Captain Drives: 1M, Exige s240, S2k, GTI, C250 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 641 iTrader: (0)	i think your only real choice is too move out to long island , come to suffoulk (melville, dix hills, Jericho, huntington). Taxes are less, much more land, and i go door to door commute 1 hour 5 minutes each way. Plus i have 3 cars + 1 on the way and still have much more room left.

08-20-2011, 07:39 PM	#35
positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 8,857 iTrader: (1)	i didn't know your face looked like "smiley JOE" But cute little kid. See, i think he enjoys the sun (should've kept that E93) __________________

08-20-2011, 10:16 PM	#43
rye m3 Lieutenant Drives: 2011.75 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York Posts: 489 iTrader: (2)	You are living large anyway dude. Parking can be had much cheaper than $500/mo. $30k year kindergarten is a waste of money. Summer house... WTF, why not 2 cars? Sorry, you sound a bit whipped Anyway, an M3 cab is just not an ideal car to have if you only have one. You gotta have a sedan at least. Personally, I would never drive an SUV as a primary car. The wife's car, yes, but a minivan will never enter our driveway. __________________ E92 M3 MR on Red/Black ZCP Sound Carbon 2007 997S - sold 2003 E46 M3 Steel Grey on Red- sold 1997 E36 M3 Arctic Silver on Black- sold

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