ESS VT3 Supercharger - Low Compression M3 S65 Engine Build Has Begun... - Page 7

gemini330zhp · 08-13-2011, 01:01 AM

the infamous... · 08-13-2011, 10:12 PM

@ 8/10 update

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

That's shit is tight yO ... Fo sheezy on da weezy my word is born yo! Dat shit iz gunna be gone with the wind foreal drizzy !!!
Illmatic with out the static kid .....

Ok .. Lost touch with reality for sec there that's what a cafe Americano with 4 shots of espresso will do to u

Looking good Mr Drew

DLSJ5 · 08-14-2011, 11:59 AM

Rods and Pistons laid out, ready for assembly.

Short Block being assembled.

Mason3 · 08-14-2011, 12:11 PM

Looking good Drew!

ARA5HE90 · 08-14-2011, 03:00 PM

very impressive.. waiting to see the final results!! =)

DLSJ5 · 08-16-2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk

i want a ride bro!!

No problem Brotha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

That's shit is tight yO ... Fo sheezy on da weezy my word is born yo! Dat shit iz gunna be gone with the wind foreal drizzy !!!
Illmatic with out the static kid .....

Ok .. Lost touch with reality for sec there that's what a cafe Americano with 4 shots of espresso will do to u

Looking good Mr Drew

Haha, thanks Zim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewads

Those coated headers look nice!

I'm going to be putting a set of Carrillo rods (along with CP pistons) in my GT-R soon also. Stock GT-R rods are known to bend past 650TQ, so I can't do anything else until I swap out the rods and pistons. I only got 3500 miles on them, but they got to go!

Good stuff Mike, what company will be doing the build for you?

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Originally Posted by 1sikbmr

this is so epic! props to you OP.

Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by the infamous...

@ 8/10 update

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mason3

Looking good Drew!

Thanks Mason, when I pick the car up, we all need to meet up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARA5HE90

very impressive.. waiting to see the final results!! =)

Thanks man.

GOVCO · 08-16-2011, 03:07 PM

What a BIG difference between ESS VT kits. Did not realize it would be that big of a difference. Love it! Good luck with the build. Can not wait for the end result. Would also love to see a comparison of the AA Stage 2 vs. ESS VT625. Now that would be a good shootout.

img · 08-16-2011, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOVCO

What a BIG difference between ESS VT kits. Did not
realize it would be that big of a difference. Love it! Good luck
with the build. Can not wait for the end result. Would also love
to see a comparison of the AA Stage 2 vs. ESS VT625. Now that
would be a good shootout.

If you're curious about these things, then you should go look at
the Dyno Database (www.bmwdynodatabase.com). Here's a few entries
for you. These are all independant dyno results, not vendor
entries.

The first few are taken from the same exact dyno:
AA Stage-2 +Meth @ 7.7 PSI: 465whp, 334wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=326
ESS Stage-1 VT1-535 @ 5.6 PSI: 472whp, 310wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=332 (This dyno was
taken exactly 24 hours after the dyno above. Identical
conditions.)

Different dyno, but same California 91 octane gas:
ESS VT2-625 +Meth @ 7.15 PSI: 586whp, 379wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=320
ESS VT2-650 (no Meth) @ 9.0 PSI: 604whp, 386wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=357

Here's a few entries taken from back east USA. Should be the same
gasoline however.
AA Stage-2 +Meth @ 7.5 PSI: 501whp, 355wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=316
ESS VT2-625 (no meth) @ 7.4 PSI: 594whp, 381wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=310

I hope this helps.

mikewads · 08-16-2011, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Good stuff Mike, what company will be doing the build for you?

I'm proud to say that I will be the one dropping the motor, tearing it down, and rebuilding it.

TopSpeed Inc. does my tuning.

img · 08-17-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewads

I'm proud to say that I will be the one dropping the motor, tearing it down, and rebuilding it.

TopSpeed Inc. does my tuning.

nice work Mike

Team Plutonium · 08-17-2011, 09:18 AM

This thread is pure awesomeness!

Thanks for the photos and updates!

duk · 08-17-2011, 12:20 PM

sooo juicy, can't wait to see the final beast in action!!!

DLSJ5 · 08-17-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewads

I'm proud to say that I will be the one dropping the motor, tearing it down, and rebuilding it.

TopSpeed Inc. does my tuning.

You Rock Mike!

DLSJ5 · 08-17-2011, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

This thread is pure awesomeness!

Thanks for the photos and updates!

Appreciate that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk

sooo juicy, can't wait to see the final beast in action!!!

I'm with you!

GOVCO · 08-17-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by img

If you're curious about these things, then you should go look at
the Dyno Database (www.bmwdynodatabase.com). Here's a few entries
for you. These are all independant dyno results, not vendor
entries.

The first few are taken from the same exact dyno:
AA Stage-2 +Meth @ 7.7 PSI: 465whp, 334wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=326
ESS Stage-1 VT1-535 @ 5.6 PSI: 472whp, 310wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=332 (This dyno was
taken exactly 24 hours after the dyno above. Identical
conditions.)

Different dyno, but same California 91 octane gas:
ESS VT2-625 +Meth @ 7.15 PSI: 586whp, 379wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=320
ESS VT2-650 (no Meth) @ 9.0 PSI: 604whp, 386wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=357

Here's a few entries taken from back east USA. Should be the same
gasoline however.
AA Stage-2 +Meth @ 7.5 PSI: 501whp, 355wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=316
ESS VT2-625 (no meth) @ 7.4 PSI: 594whp, 381wtq.
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=310

I hope this helps.

The numbers seem rather low for the AA kits. I just saw at Bimmerfest an 09 E90 M3 with the AA stage 2 and a fabspeed exhaust listed as 650hp and 425 ft./lb at the crank w/ Meth running 7.5psi. Not sure what his powerl loss ratio is from crank to wheel, but wouldn't think it would be more than 22-23%. Am I off? The ESS kits seem to yeild better numbers. Maybe this is why sooooo many folks have these kits.

akh23456 · 08-18-2011, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOVCO

The numbers seem rather low for the AA kits. I just saw at Bimmerfest an 09 E90 M3 with the AA stage 2 and a fabspeed exhaust listed as 650hp and 425 ft./lb at the crank w/ Meth running 7.5psi. Not sure what his powerl loss ratio is from crank to wheel, but wouldn't think it would be more than 22-23%. Am I off? The ESS kits seem to yeild better numbers. Maybe this is why sooooo many folks have these kits.

Please remember the dyno he has posted is my first set of dyno numbers with no boost log.(My setup has changed with different exhaust parts) The day after that dyno i went to another with a boost log and it was only 6.5 psi. Dyno's aren't everything and AA kits aren't dyno queens. If you want real world results my 501 hp vs 590 hp ess at Atco AA wins all day. Also FBO 335 beating ess vt-2 kits on the street. So you can judge yourself fairly instead of bias info.

I am the sedan and the e92 with the flag in the back is M33 that run 120 ess 122 AA both of us had traction issue.
http://www.youtube.com/user/steven09...15/Beaxt8fraYI

sorry drew for going a little off topic but it was brought up in the thread. Hope all is well. Can't wait for the build to be over.

img · 08-18-2011, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOVCO

The numbers seem rather low for the AA kits. I just saw at Bimmerfest an 09 E90 M3 with the AA stage 2 and a fabspeed exhaust listed as 650hp and 425 ft./lb at the crank w/ Meth running 7.5psi. Not sure what his powerl loss ratio is from crank to wheel, but wouldn't think it would be more than 22-23%. Am I off? The ESS kits seem to yeild better numbers. Maybe this is why sooooo many folks have these kits.

Tried looking for the right Dyno with the right Boost log for Akashs car but couldnt find it so i went with what was posted.Also his car was low on boost when he hit the Dyno that day cause of a boost leak or something i cant recall but no doubt his car performs excellent on the drag strip.

Sorry Drew for thread jacking !

kiln · 08-18-2011, 11:32 AM

Akash wat has been ur best result at the strip?

akh23456 · 08-18-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiln

Akash wat has been ur best result at the strip?

11.8 at 124 with a 2.4 60ft.(this isn't up on dragtimes.com i havn't had a chance to go looking threw the 80-90 slips i have. i finally have new tires so i'll hitting up the track in the next few weeks since its not like 100 going to break the 126 mark and hopefully low 11's .

m33 · 08-18-2011, 12:44 PM

Akh I think it would be great if you made it out to our neck of the woods I'll even come to yourse so we can do some friendly runs.
I trapped a 121.5 mph and that was with wheel spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd and..... 6mt
Where as your dct ( 4+sec of time to add more Mph ) and Meth ( giving you cold weather performance and again MPH ) so I wouldn't say it's a fair stack up especially at the track !
Now you wanna compare both kits let's do some 40mph roll runs and watch the tables turn... Turn your Meth off they will turn even more

Now as for the FBO 335 putting smack down on ESS kits see below me runing a FBO 335 on our way to the track the same day we ran .

m33 · 08-18-2011, 12:48 PM

That same white FBO was clocking 115 to 118 mph traps that day ...

akh23456 · 08-18-2011, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

Akh I think it would be great if you made it out to our neck of the woods I'll even come to yourse so we can do some friendly runs.
I trapped a 121.5 mph and that was with wheel spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd and..... 6mt
Where as your dct ( 4+sec of time to add more Mph ) and Meth ( giving you cold weather performance and again MPH ) so I wouldn't say it's a fair stack up especially at the track !
Now you wanna compare both kits let's do some 40mph roll runs and watch the tables turn... Turn your Meth off they will turn even more

Now as for the FBO 335 putting smack down on ESS kits see below me runing a FBO 335 on our way to the track the same day we ran .

i never compared kit sir, just stating some facts for people that was brought up by another member. Dyno's aren't everything is all i am trying to say. i was giving examples of how my car stacked up against a higher dyno reading car.

I will run what I got, I am not gonna turn anything off what is this Nascar restricted plate races. Next your gonna tell me to swap transmissions to make it a fair race. I have heard and seen videos from friends showing me FBO 335i beating up ess kits.

I am heading up Sunday to hang out with Img hope to see you then.

08-13-2011, 01:01 AM	#133
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08-14-2011, 11:59 AM	#135
DLSJ5 Colonel Drives: 08 E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,790 iTrader: (0)	Rods and Pistons laid out, ready for assembly. Short Block being assembled. __________________ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ @ 7.2psi - 94 octane / Water meth ESS VT3-725 60-130MPH 6.64s - 620Whp/420Wtq@ 11psi ESS VT3-750 - 685Whp/466Wtq@13.5 psi SAE - 703WHP /478WTQ@13.5 psi STD

08-14-2011, 12:11 PM	#136
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08-14-2011, 03:00 PM	#137
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08-16-2011, 03:07 PM	#139
GOVCO Lieutenant Drives: 09 E90 AW M3 DCT [Slight Mods] Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: MD Posts: 408 iTrader: (0)	What a BIG difference between ESS VT kits. Did not realize it would be that big of a difference. Love it! Good luck with the build. Can not wait for the end result. Would also love to see a comparison of the AA Stage 2 vs. ESS VT625. Now that would be a good shootout.

08-17-2011, 12:20 PM	#144
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08-18-2011, 11:32 AM	#150
kiln First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 362 iTrader: (6)	Akash wat has been ur best result at the strip?

08-18-2011, 12:44 PM	#152
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (5)	Akh I think it would be great if you made it out to our neck of the woods I'll even come to yourse so we can do some friendly runs. I trapped a 121.5 mph and that was with wheel spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd and..... 6mt Where as your dct ( 4+sec of time to add more Mph ) and Meth ( giving you cold weather performance and again MPH ) so I wouldn't say it's a fair stack up especially at the track ! Now you wanna compare both kits let's do some 40mph roll runs and watch the tables turn... Turn your Meth off they will turn even more Now as for the FBO 335 putting smack down on ESS kits see below me runing a FBO 335 on our way to the track the same day we ran .

08-18-2011, 12:48 PM	#153
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (5)	That same white FBO was clocking 115 to 118 mph traps that day ...

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