HELP AGAIN! 335is or M3

[cipher5]

Will it be daily driven? How many miles? If you don't mind refilling gas often at the pump, then no question, the M. If you want the power, still a fun ride but not as much hurt at the pump? The 335is.

Depends on your needs

[cawest19]

Originally Posted by Nine

Oh rearrryyyy...do tell, I'm very interested.

To assume someone buys a certain car because they can't afford another is a bit ignorant and arrogant (especially if you are an owner of the car you are claiming they can't afford). I understand what you are trying to get at, but I think it's a bit classless to make a statement like that.

[X2Board]

Originally Posted by 3XTR3M3

Yea, I agree... Ask the 335 guys so you get an unbiased answer.

lulz

As a current 335 guy, my unbiased answer. You really have no choice, M3 all the way!! Don't make the same mistake I did. As much as I love my 335, once I drove an E90 M3, I knew that I had given myself the short end of the stick, by not test driving both before buying.

[diablito]

Mmmmm 335is sounds to me like a bee, not sure how to cope with that, just for the exhaust note M car all the way.

335is is just not a M-Power car, plus it has 335is plaster everywhere so you do not forget you bought it instead of an M.

[FVM3]

why there are endless 335i vs m3 threads?

[Nine]

Originally Posted by cawest19

To assume someone buys a certain car because they can't afford another is a bit ignorant and arrogant (especially if you are an owner of the car you are claiming they can't afford). I understand what you are trying to get at, but I think it's a bit classless to make a statement like that.

Really, I don't think it's ignorant or arrogant at all. I would love to be driving a GT3 or a 458 italia, but I can't afford it. I think if you can't afford a GT3, drive an M3, if you can't afford an M3, drive a 1M....

My point is, only pick the 335"is" (note we are talking about the IS) if money is a factor, so items like gas or price. If you've ever spent any time in a 335IS you would understand, I love the 335 cars - hell I fight for them in other threads. But if you go head to head with a 335is and an M3, there is NO good justification for choosing the 335is vs. the M3 other than financial ones. In performance, interior, look, feeling, heritage, sports, the M3 trumps the 335IS.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by cawest19

To assume someone buys a certain car because they can't afford another is a bit ignorant and arrogant (especially if you are an owner of the car you are claiming they can't afford). I understand what you are trying to get at, but I think it's a bit classless to make a statement like that.

Not to stir up anything, but not being able to afford a certain car is possibly the main reason car buyers defer to other models. No different than what regularly occurs in the housing market. People shouldn't get offended by what they can't afford, really. When you look at the similarities of both the 335is and M3, it's not logical to settle for the is, because both cars are relatively impractical. Might as well top out with the M3 if you have the resources. Just sayin'.

[James T. Kirk]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I suspect it may have to do with :
No car in the world more similar to the m3 than the 335.
No car in the world more similar to the 335 than the m3.

The whole m3 vs 335 argument is an exercise in splitting some really long hairs.

Each has a few things it does a little better than the other.
M3 will be a little more entertaining.
335 will be more forgiving when you're stuck in traffic or going on a road trip.

M3 also has the "woot I have an M3" aspect, that the 335 doesn't come with. As is with anything that can double as a status symbol.

-scheherazade

Wow. Have you ever driven a 335 or M3?

I have owned both and they are not "a little better than the other" regarding anything. They are WORLDS apart.

Say what you want on which you'd prefer. Certainly, I loved both. But to assert they're a hair's difference in performance and feel is just mind-boggling.

[Dan Halen]

Get what you want or suffer regret.

[ThunderMoose]

why does nearly every one on this forum recommend the M3 over the 335is?

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by ThunderMoose

why does nearly every one on this forum recommend the M3 over the 335is?

NA> FI car.

[varsity]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

Not to stir up anything, but not being able to afford a certain car is possibly the main reason car buyers defer to other models.

This is an unbelievably ignorant comment. There are COUNTLESS people who live below - not within - their means by choice. These are people who earn seven figures yet live in $300k homes, drive $30k Toyotas, send their kids to public school, pay their bills on time, have zero debt, and have seven figures parked in CDs and savings accounts. You don't hear about them because they don't go on forums and crow about how much money they have saved, the way we go on forums and crow about things our money has bought us.

My wife wanted a new E coupe. Sure we could afford an E550. But since she drives putt-putt 4 miles to work and doesn't have a concept of WOT, there's no reason to get her the V8. We bought the E350, saved money on the car, and continue to save money at the pump. She gets all the luxury and safety she wants AND we save a few bucks. Everybody wins.

[MDSKIER]

Originally Posted by LateBraking

No, damn it, you're all doing it wrong!

Brooooooooo, The 335is has moar torkz and is cheeper and is just so much ossimer in every way. With onry 1k u kan haz blow teh doarz off of an M tree lite to lite every single night, yainorite?

Sincerely,
-An M3 Lover.

Now this helps for sure. Thanks!

[Nine]

Originally Posted by varsity

This is an unbelievably ignorant comment. There are COUNTLESS people who live below - not within - their means by choice. These are people who earn seven figures yet live in $300k homes, drive $30k Toyotas, send their kids to public school, pay their bills on time, have zero debt, and have seven figures parked in CDs and savings accounts. You don't hear about them because they don't go on forums and crow about how much money they have saved, the way we go on forums and crow about things our money has bought us.

My wife wanted a new E coupe. Sure we could afford an E550. But since she drives putt-putt 4 miles to work and doesn't have a concept of WOT, there's no reason to get her the V8. We bought the E350, saved money on the car, and continue to save money at the pump. She gets all the luxury and safety she wants AND we save a few bucks. Everybody wins.

Right, but then we wouldn't be talking about 'car' people. Keep things within the scope here.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

Wow. Have you ever driven a 335 or M3?

I have owned both and they are not "a little better than the other" regarding anything. They are WORLDS apart.

Say what you want on which you'd prefer. Certainly, I loved both. But to assert they're a hair's difference in performance and feel is just mind-boggling.

Exactly.

[bobbyd1961]

Originally Posted by bmwguy

Hey guys, previously I was looking for a 335xdrive or an older used M3. Now my options have changed and are a fully loaded brand new 335is lemans on oyster white with manual or a 2009 e92 M3 fully loaded minus EDC with 34,000kms and is DTC and i'm also getting brand new tires and warranty up till 160,000. Should I do the M3??

M3, there not in the same world.

[FJS]

Originally Posted by ThunderMoose

why does nearly every one on this forum recommend the M3 over the 335is?

Maybe because it's an M3 forum and the vast majority here have one? I don't know

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by varsity

This is an unbelievably ignorant comment. There are COUNTLESS people who live below - not within - their means by choice. These are people who earn seven figures yet live in $300k homes, drive $30k Toyotas, send their kids to public school, pay their bills on time, have zero debt, and have seven figures parked in CDs and savings accounts. You don't hear about them because they don't go on forums and crow about how much money they have saved, the way we go on forums and crow about things our money has bought us.

Even "Countless" doesn't exclude the ones who do defer to the less expensive car because of affordability.

[FJS]

Originally Posted by Nine

. I think if you can't afford a GT3, drive an M3, if you can't afford an M3, drive a 1M....

Maybe you should post that on the 1M forum and see how that goes

[varsity]

Originally Posted by Nine

Right, but then we wouldn't be talking about 'car' people. Keep things within the scope here.

Being a "car" person doesn't mean you lose all semblance of practicality.

I have an acquaintance who owns a 458 and Mulsanne among others, but drives a hydrogen Honda every day to the office. The guy could daily-drive a Veyron if he wanted.

Maybe it's a maturity thing. For many people, there comes a point when you don't need to be driving the most expensive car you can afford at all times, or even at all. And higher cost doesn't mean higher performance.

[taylorcoleman]

Originally Posted by varsity

Being a "car" person doesn't mean you lose all semblance of practicality.

I have an acquaintance who owns a 458 and Mulsanne among others, but drives a hydrogen Honda every day to the office. The guy could daily-drive a Veyron if he wanted.

Maybe it's a maturity thing. For many people, there comes a point when you don't need to be driving the most expensive car you can afford at all times, or even at all. And higher cost doesn't mean higher performance.

I think the $50k - $100k car category is highly variable with respect to drivers and their ability to "afford" the car. I have no data to support this claim but in this category I think there are more people driving these cars than can really "afford" them.

[captainaudio]

People who think that everyone drives the most expensive car they can afford tend to be people who are driving the most expensive car they can afford.

CA