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      07-21-2011, 05:45 AM   #23
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Height of 3 series vs M3

Hmmm. I have a 3 series and I have to take my driveway at an angle to avoid scrapes. I just ordered an M3 - no competition package - and I'm assuming that the clearance will be the same as my 3. Is that a bad assumption?
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      07-21-2011, 12:10 PM   #24
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Hmmm. I have a 3 series and I have to take my driveway at an angle to avoid scrapes. I just ordered an M3 - no competition package - and I'm assuming that the clearance will be the same as my 3. Is that a bad assumption?
Its not that its that much lower overall than a regular 3, but rather that the M3 has these foam boxes that hang down more. Here is a side-by-side comparison of the E90 M3 v. the regular 3 series from the manual diagrams, so you can see what I mean.

That said, I have a really steep driveway and was worried about the same thing when I got my M3 ZCP. So far I haven't scraped at all. Here is the thread with pics of my driveway. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539039
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      07-21-2011, 12:26 PM   #25
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Had to start backing into my driveway almost immediately after delivery. It's a pain but worth it to save the front of the car. I've scraped about an inch of felt off each corner of the underside of my car.
Funny thing about that.. in Alberta you are actually legally not allowed to back OUT of your driveway. Of course it is never enforced.. but sort of interesting.
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      07-21-2011, 01:08 PM   #26
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I scraped yesterday. Ruined my night... and most of today. (My 1st time)
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      07-21-2011, 03:16 PM   #27
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45 degree + slow + (EDC sport if really steep/deep - Optional) + no fat chicks.
this (and that last part ). i dont think edc sport is really required for most places but i still use it coming out of my driveway (which is pretty steep) and it works fairly well for me. the times that i do scrape, i notice that i dont have the sport mode on (or race mode. w/e ppl call it x.x).



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I don't go to places that will scrape my car.
perm. solution xD. if you know your going to scrape, drive the DD/beater! (if applicable).
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      07-23-2011, 05:27 PM   #28
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Is this true? I've been searching and I can't find such a law. I've seen that some states and provinces prohibit you from backing onto a major road or junction, but the law doesn't apply to neighborhoods.

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Funny thing about that.. in Alberta you are actually legally not allowed to back OUT of your driveway. Of course it is never enforced.. but sort of interesting.
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      07-23-2011, 07:20 PM   #29
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M3 with a competition package? My car aint low. My 911 with an aerokit, it was a good 2" lower, plus the huge front overhang of a 911. Even a 45 degree angle would scrape slightly. The M3 is a dream with so much clearance. Don't bother getting a 911 with an aerokit or a GT3, you'll really be complaining!
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      07-23-2011, 07:29 PM   #30
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How true. I sold my big HP, lowered 996TT and bought a Competition package M3. Yes the Comp M3 can be finicky over steep drives, but it's nothing compared with the Porsche. Plus those wacky felt boxes take most of the punishment instead of the bodywork.

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M3 with a competition package? My car aint low. My 911 with an aerokit, it was a good 2" lower, plus the huge front overhang of a 911. Even a 45 degree angle would scrape slightly. The M3 is a dream with so much clearance. Don't bother getting a 911 with an aerokit or a GT3, you'll really be complaining!
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      07-23-2011, 07:50 PM   #31
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45 degree + slow + (EDC sport if really steep/deep - Optional) + no fat chicks.
hahahahah Thats a good one !
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      07-23-2011, 08:03 PM   #32
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EDC trick works for me too. Can't go out my driveway front first either. Hate the sound of the scrape. Almost always unexpected too.
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If you back onto your driveway (especially if the curb height is the problem), wont you still have to go forward to leave your driveway...what do you do then?
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      03-12-2013, 09:47 AM   #34
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45 degree angle! and slow... That's the key!
I know my neighbors must think I'm drunk always pulling into my driveway basically sideways.
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      03-12-2013, 09:49 AM   #35
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If you back onto your driveway (especially if the curb height is the problem), wont you still have to go forward to leave your driveway...what do you do then?
I go out that same 45 degree angle.
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      03-12-2013, 10:45 AM   #36
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      03-12-2013, 11:04 AM   #37
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Had to start backing into my driveway almost immediately after delivery. It's a pain but worth it to save the front of the car. I've scraped about an inch of felt off each corner of the underside of my car.
same here, i back up in the shared condo garage.
neighbours put on their " what a douchebag " faces.
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      03-12-2013, 11:13 AM   #38
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1MtoM3 so you just deal with going out front first when you leave your condo/house though?
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      03-12-2013, 11:30 AM   #39
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The worst for me happened two days ago at the car wash, was pulling into the vacuum bay and didn't realize it had a cement parking stop, I was obviously coasting but when I heard that noise my insides turned numb. Sure as $hit, the bottom bumper was scrapped up
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      03-12-2013, 11:59 AM   #40
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Its not always easy to do a 45 degrees. Usually there's someone ready to come out of the driveway and there's no room to go 45. So I end up waiting until the other person has time to go, so I can do my 45, and then people behind me get pissed off.

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I did it too to my new M3 (special edition too), but luckily you can't see it since it's way under the bumper. You have to go prone and feel the underside to feel it, or see it. It was one of those drainage ditches and I think those are the ones that can mess you up, no matter how slow you go. I did go straight though and not 45 degree angle.

But sometimes I feel worrying about cosmetic damages is not worth the stress because the real joy comes from driving it. You're not gonna see the car when you're inside it so why does it really matter how it looks on the outside? Just ignore the scratch and drive the car.
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      03-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #42
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Carry small wooden planks in your trunk. You can pull em out and use em in sketchy situations and come out looking like a BAWS!
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      03-12-2013, 02:52 PM   #43
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I scraped in my e46 a few times. I've owned my e90 for over a year now and have not scraped once. My car is lowered on H&Rs. If something looks questionable I don't even try. I had to build 2x12 ramps to clear the curb into my driveway.
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      03-12-2013, 03:02 PM   #44
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I find edc to be useful on speed bumps only, at normal it can prevent from hitting the speed bump when driving in too fast versus in comfort. But you night not be scrapping at all, there is a hard foam underneath and it can feel like your scrapping the bumper.
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