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      09-19-2011, 08:30 AM   #76
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Originally Posted by M3DCTBT View Post
Not argumentative. They aren't listed in the DD.

That's an old entry of John circa 2008. The 400+ was full cat delete, pulley and more tuning. But they are out there on the forums if you dig. Mostly due to an older bad relationship with DD owner/moderator doesn't care for the tuner who did those results. Benvo did 411 with his car on a DJ but it's questionable at best.

Either way would love to see what a balls out full bolt on meth car would do with the Procede.

Problem is: While the procede is a very neat product (I'm an ex n54 guy) alot of us can't justify it on top as most are happy with the full flash tunes and 93 octane, that change torque tables/targetting, vanos inlet/outlet, dbw, M settings, DCT tuning and much much more. To those people where the meth kit may add ~10-15whp it will be a hefty price for procede + meth. Perhaps a standalone product that watches the meth flow and adjusting of set point timing advance on top of the dme tune would be great.
Obviously, whatever 400+ rwhp NA cars exist are outliers and that calls into question whether they really make 400+ rwhp. Even if they get it once, under ideal conditions, is it repeatable? Seems like these cars need race gas to make that sort of power and while you can run it, race gas is very expensive compared to meth that flows only when needed.

Obviously, if you are happy with whatever you have now, you don`t need any more mods. However, I love the way Vishnu has take some very simple and inexpensive mods like crush bent exhausts and made as much power as many people who have spent ten times as much. The octane seems more the key than the tune.
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