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      02-08-2013, 01:25 AM   #625
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa View Post
Without question, the two cars that were the most exciting, the most tossable for me to drive were the Evo 8 and the GT-R - both AWD cars. When I turn the wheel I want to feel the car respond immediately but predictably. To me, this quality defines fun.
By tossable and exciting, do you mean that you think it is easy to control the GT-R on oversteer? And if so, do you consider yourself just an average driver?

Or perhaps "exciting/tossable" means no under/over-steer but high G-forces to you? I mean, we might define these words differently. I am interested in knowing.
Little known facts about BMW: 1) The N54 is still in production and used in the current Z4 35i and 35is. 2) In a Z4 you can get sport+ steering combined with normal suspension etc by selecting DSC=off. (Update: DSC=off also offers sports steering in the M135i) 3) All Z4s with 19" wheels are still only offered with the worst performing OEM tires ever sold with a DCT equipped BMW (Potenza RE 050 RFT).