Good deals on ordered 2009 are possible. I just placed an order with my local dealership yesterday for an almost fully loaded car. I am very pleased with the deal, because the entire deal took less than an hour and was hassle free. 40 mins of this was trying to find existing cars (there were 5 2009 cars listed in the system, one car very close match), and then optioning out my car in the order system, then 5 mins of tossing back three numbers before settling on very close to $4000 off MSRP, then 10 mins of paperwork. His starting number was close to $2500 off MSRP (very good start)!!! This dealership is less than 2 hours away from Dallas and is the only BMW dealership in town. If you are near the area I would encourage doing business with them. I cannot guarantee you will get the same deal, hell you might even do better
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