[LarThaL]

Just because people may want refinement in their cars, doesn't mean they are "badge fanatics". It's only that cars that have both performance and refinement wear prestigious badges. In fact, the reason they became prestigious badges is precisely because they do give you both.

I have never questioned the purpose or the capabilities of the GTR. I am just looking for more from a car. I want the performance AND the style and refinement. Maybe I will have to give up a little of each to get the best combination of both.

The biggest turn off for me is still the exterior design. Ironically, I think many of Nissan's other offerings are very nicely styled. Especially the 370Z. I absolutely love the styling of the 370Z. I actually owned a 350Z a number of years back and was really looking forward to the debut of the GTR, but when I saw it, I simply said, "No freakin' way!!"