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      07-10-2012, 11:49 PM   #208
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I beg to differ...he's trashing the guys who tend to buy these special edition cars (with no meaningful track upgrade) the intention of tracking it. This LRP edition is a joke by all means and is not a lightweight track specialist.

He's also trashing people who own these high revving M cars but never take them to the track. These high revving M motors need to be at the track to attain their full potential...otherwise its pretty tame on the daily grind.

This explains why folks on this forum start supercharging their cars to get that low end grunt and higher speeds which is going against the historical ///M philosophy. Hell if supercharging the M was always going to be in the cards...an american muscle car like the GT500 would more than suffice for straight line duty and the occasional turns. The M division now builds heavy turbo charged cars which provide that low end grunt but fails on all counts as a sensory delight (be it steering or weight).

The beauty of pure N/A motors was the ability of the average weekend racers with some mechanical inclination to be able to work on their cars. With the inclusion of more and more sensors and chips to attain that performance.....the only place where M cars win the battle is in the hearts of software engineers and tuners with a penchant for the occasional DIY.

New M cars have no FIZZ.
Haven't read to the end of the post, but I had to reply to this. Most people who own and M3 don't take it to the track. Only about 10% or people track their cars - good for them. Your infactuation (sp) with the N/A aspect of the M3 is false. The M3 is definately a great car. An M3 with SC is a fantastic car that can scoot around as a DD or tear up the track any day. As good as BMW's N/A engine "were" times do change and to stay competitive (and sell more cars based on the HP wars) companies are forced to adapt.

BMW's N/A engines as great as they are would never compete with boosted cars that were being produced from about 2002. Audi/VW 2.0T, MB kompressors, Jag's SC, and many more companies leaped forward in hp/tq ratings over BMW's N/A engines. When the 335 first came out in 2007, one article was headlined "if you can't beat them, join them". This just shows you that if a company stood still - being stubborn on an idea, they would lose themselves in the market. At the end of the day, its about how many cars you sell and how much profit you get from them.

BMW's forte was always balance and handling. This is why the E30, E36, and even E46 always held their own on the track vs higher horsepower cars. Comparing a SC E9x to a GT 500 is not fair because there is so much more to a car (E9x) in terms of balance, poise, drivability at the limit, that have been derived from the previous M cars.

To each his own, I think the E90 will land into history books as one of the last greatest M3s to be developed. Give it a SC and it becomes legendary.
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