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This question is more for the Washington guys.

Any of the BMW dealers actually willing to deal? The Oregon dealers, Portland especially, don't have any concept of negotiation. They act like they're doing you a favor taking $500 off MSRP.

My fiance and I are looking to lease an X5 for her, but I've given up on trying to deal with the local dealers. I'll go to SoCal if I need to, just to spite the goons around here. We seem to go through a car a year between the two of us. However, we've always avoided BMW simply because I can't deal with the local dealers.

Any suggestions are appreciated.