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Originally Posted by Onurleft
Fixed it for you. My bad.
The record for a stock E46 M3, is 12.7@107.7.
U.S spec early model car.
The record for an E92 M3 is 12.4@114.9
Both could have lower E.T's with a optimal tire set up. I'm not sure if these two still stand but they both did for more than a few years.
If there's a strong running E92 M3 that's dead stock running 12.60's @ the tracks in the S.E then i'll be right behind it running 13 dead in an strong running E46 M3. No questions.
If the conditions yield 13.0-13.2@105-108 for the E9x, a very common average time vs. a 12.6-12.7@110+ (assuming avg.2.0 short times) at the tracks around here, then again, the same average joe should be in the 13.3-13.5 area@102-105 area in the E46.
If you think 6-8.5 car lengths separates the two on average (same conditions/drivers), you should feed your delusions by some seat time.
Arguing one car runs .2ths faster then it's record and another car is close to a second away from its record is just a biased argument.
However, I feel like you just want to correct my numbers you can quickly regurgitate, which was not my point from the start (why I was careless with the math) and is my mistake
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You are using a time for the E46 M3 that no one has ever been able to duplicate. Lee Rutter (Matthews) is an incredibly skilled driver, I would love to give him a crack at the E92 M3. Also, I have talked to Lee quite a few times as we were both former Mustang drivers and Lee went through a clutch in his E46 in under 40k miles as the amount of clutch slip that is necessary to attain those ETs. The reason why his ET was so good was he was able to pull a 1.74 60 ft. time on stock Contis, hence all the clutch slip and destruction.
Also, even given Lees time of 12.7 @107mph vs. the E92 M3s 114.8mph is a huge difference. I actually look at the mph more than ET sometimes as its the MPH that shows what the car is doing.
I have owned both, my best time with my bone stock E46 M3 was a 13.16 @106.7 mph, with Supersprint headers, 100 cpi cats and other bolt ons the car to include 4.10 gearing put down 302rwhp and ran a 12.89@110.6mph. Yet it still felt my stock at the time E92 M3 would tear it a new arse hole. The issue for the E92 M3 is traction. If you powershift 2nd gear I get tons of wheel spin even with my 285s out back and you have to baby the car out of the hole as well. Keep in mind Drew ran a 11.88@118+mph in his bolt on E92 M3 with D/Rs..once again issue for these cars is the lack of traction.
That being all said..loved my E46 M3.
Dave